What's Better VC++6.0 or VC++.Net
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Fazlul Kabir wrote: You can always choose the classic C++ style GUI (instead of VB - style GUI) How do you do that? Does it give you the old Class Wizard back? "There's a slew of slip 'twixt cup and lip"
Stan Shannon wrote: How do you do that? Does it give you the old Class Wizard back? Sorry for the late reply ( I was in a meeting). To set the VC++ style classic interface (or any other kind), simply go to the "Start page" of VS .NET and then select "My Profile" from the list on the left of the page. Then from the "Profile" combobox, select "Visual C++ Developer" option. Hope this helps. // Fazlul
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Does anyone know if you can install Visual Studio .NET on the same machine as VC++ 6.0? Will VC++ 6.0 still work the same? :confused: Cathy Life's uncertain, have dessert first!
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Stan Shannon wrote: How do you do that? Does it give you the old Class Wizard back? Sorry for the late reply ( I was in a meeting). To set the VC++ style classic interface (or any other kind), simply go to the "Start page" of VS .NET and then select "My Profile" from the list on the left of the page. Then from the "Profile" combobox, select "Visual C++ Developer" option. Hope this helps. // Fazlul
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But that does not get rid of the "VB-Style Property-Sheet-Like" interface for doing everything from control properties (which is similar to how it is in VC6.0, but not the same) to adding message handlers(!) which is quite different. Another nit-pick about that Property-Sheet interface: everything is a Drop-Down control, when some things should be a Drop-List! For example, Overriding
CDialog::OnInitDialog(...): it allows me to change the name, but complains when I try to complete the change! I hate broken GUIs more than just about anything! Oh, and no, it will not bring back ClassWizard. AFAICT, ClassWizard is gone. Long Gone... Peace! -=- James. -
Does anyone know if you can install Visual Studio .NET on the same machine as VC++ 6.0? Will VC++ 6.0 still work the same? :confused: Cathy Life's uncertain, have dessert first!
Yep. Works fine here, too. If you are doing fresh installs, I would install VS.NET after VC++ 6.0. Peace! -=- James.
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Stan Shannon wrote: How do you do that? Does it give you the old Class Wizard back? Sorry for the late reply ( I was in a meeting). To set the VC++ style classic interface (or any other kind), simply go to the "Start page" of VS .NET and then select "My Profile" from the list on the left of the page. Then from the "Profile" combobox, select "Visual C++ Developer" option. Hope this helps. // Fazlul
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Thanks, but James is correct. That didn't really do anything excpet rearrange the windows a bit. Same basic UI. The biggset complaint I have with C++ .Net is the clumsey way you are forced to created properties for your rescources. The old 6.0 way was *much* better. "There's a slew of slip 'twixt cup and lip"
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Yep. Works fine here, too. If you are doing fresh installs, I would install VS.NET after VC++ 6.0. Peace! -=- James.
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Chris Losinger wrote: Personally, I hate the VC7 GUI. it's too much like VB for me. You can always choose the classic C++ style GUI (instead of VB - style GUI) // Fazlul
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Fazlul Kabir wrote: You can always choose the classic C++ style GUI (instead of VB - style GUI) For God's sake, HOW?
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I just wanted to know from all those gurus of c++, thier opinion about the freedom one gets from migrating from vc6 to vc7. Does it always help to get into newer version if like the old one better.:confused: I have to check out other people's suggestion before i take yet another dive into a new IDE, so please help me. Ashok Singh
I think it's worth your while to get used to the new one. I'm using VS.NET at home, and VS6 at work; i routinely miss new features while at work, but rarely miss old features while at home. If you tend to use the wizards, etc. for generating initial code, VS.NET is far and away better, generating something close to readable code. And the class wizard appears to be dead and gone (whoohoo!). :) --------_**
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Thanks, but James is correct. That didn't really do anything excpet rearrange the windows a bit. Same basic UI. The biggset complaint I have with C++ .Net is the clumsey way you are forced to created properties for your rescources. The old 6.0 way was *much* better. "There's a slew of slip 'twixt cup and lip"
I see what you're getting at. You're right. Class Wizard that we had in VC++6 is gone in VC7. Personally, though I got used to with CW in VC6, I guess I am also getting used to with the new property sheet model. About a year ago, Walter Sullivan (Lead program manager, MFC / ATL) had this comment on this change.. The Wizard/Resource Editor combination of tools is quite similar to V6. The Class Wizard has been ripped apart into various locations around the IDE. Some people like it, some people hate it. Personally, I feel it would be nice if MS kept the classic class wizard in addition to the new VB-like property sheet. // Fazlul
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I just wanted to know from all those gurus of c++, thier opinion about the freedom one gets from migrating from vc6 to vc7. Does it always help to get into newer version if like the old one better.:confused: I have to check out other people's suggestion before i take yet another dive into a new IDE, so please help me. Ashok Singh
I'm glad you asked. VC++ 7 is a huge step backward. My complaints: - The Resource editor has serious bugs that make it very difficult to use (it shuts down the app, without saving files, if Add Resource is selected under some circumstances; and it refuses to oepn reousrce files if there are too many include directories). - Almost every operation has been moved around, changed a bit, and otherwise screwed up. What used to take one or two keystrokes now takes 3 or 4. A classic example - Find is now Alt E - F - F, rather than Alt-E - F, as in the old VC6 and Word. So I'm constatnly having to restart my Find operations. - ClassWizard is extremely hard to use, and in fact no longer exists as a separate entity. - Docking windows are screwy. They are much more flixible, but are uglier and harder to use. - The tree now tracks the selected file, which _seems_ like it might be neat; but since my project has about 20 different file folders, the net result is that I end up with almost all of the folders open when I surf through the project, rather than the ones I want open. And to add insult to injury.. it's no longer possible to collapse all child folders by collapsing the project folder; they all have to be collapsed individually. - The Open as Text option is well hidden, and the terminology used makes no sense (you are asked to a select a "program" to open the file with, even though what you're really doing is telling the dev environment how to treat the file.) - There's lots of pointless flashing as the mouse moves over things, in keeping with the decline in usability brought us by Win XP. - Two words: Dynamic Help. - And of course, VC6 macros and add-ins don't work, so we have to wait for the community to develop new versions.
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Does anyone know if you can install Visual Studio .NET on the same machine as VC++ 6.0? Will VC++ 6.0 still work the same? :confused: Cathy Life's uncertain, have dessert first!
Cathy wrote: Does anyone know if you can install Visual Studio .NET on the same machine as VC++ 6.0? Will VC++ 6.0 still work the same? The combo seems to work fine for me.
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I'm glad you asked. VC++ 7 is a huge step backward. My complaints: - The Resource editor has serious bugs that make it very difficult to use (it shuts down the app, without saving files, if Add Resource is selected under some circumstances; and it refuses to oepn reousrce files if there are too many include directories). - Almost every operation has been moved around, changed a bit, and otherwise screwed up. What used to take one or two keystrokes now takes 3 or 4. A classic example - Find is now Alt E - F - F, rather than Alt-E - F, as in the old VC6 and Word. So I'm constatnly having to restart my Find operations. - ClassWizard is extremely hard to use, and in fact no longer exists as a separate entity. - Docking windows are screwy. They are much more flixible, but are uglier and harder to use. - The tree now tracks the selected file, which _seems_ like it might be neat; but since my project has about 20 different file folders, the net result is that I end up with almost all of the folders open when I surf through the project, rather than the ones I want open. And to add insult to injury.. it's no longer possible to collapse all child folders by collapsing the project folder; they all have to be collapsed individually. - The Open as Text option is well hidden, and the terminology used makes no sense (you are asked to a select a "program" to open the file with, even though what you're really doing is telling the dev environment how to treat the file.) - There's lots of pointless flashing as the mouse moves over things, in keeping with the decline in usability brought us by Win XP. - Two words: Dynamic Help. - And of course, VC6 macros and add-ins don't work, so we have to wait for the community to develop new versions.
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Cathy wrote: Does anyone know if you can install Visual Studio .NET on the same machine as VC++ 6.0? Will VC++ 6.0 still work the same? The combo seems to work fine for me.
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I just wanted to know from all those gurus of c++, thier opinion about the freedom one gets from migrating from vc6 to vc7. Does it always help to get into newer version if like the old one better.:confused: I have to check out other people's suggestion before i take yet another dive into a new IDE, so please help me. Ashok Singh
If you don't want to learn C#, write managed C++ or use MFC7, then why upgrade ? I'm liking VS.NET more and more - I use it at home during the evening, and VC6 at work. But then, I am interested in C#, I've only written a couple of C++ programs at home so far, all for CP articles. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm somewhat suspicious of STL though. My (test,experimental) program worked first time. Whats that all about??!?! - Jon Hulatt, 22/3/2002