You Americans are obsessed with guns. What is it, Penis envy?
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We have moved on from the 18th century. You have an army to defend the place, you dont need guns. And if you think owning a gun is defence against a tyranical run army well, unless you have tanks and helicopters too you arte totally out matched. There is no excuse in a modern, civilised, society for any weapon other than a target, or hunting weapon. The wild west has finished guys. Didnt anyone tell you?
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
You have to remember that the 2nd amendment was only a prohibition upon the federal government. Under Jeffersonian principles, state and local governments could exercise gun control all they liked and have frequently done so. But as I said below, guns, like cars, are such an instrinsic part of our culture, it is going to be virtually impossible to get rid of them to any meaningful extent.
Thank God for disproportional force.
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Sometimes i think you europeans are jealous of our right to bear arms. I am 16 and have 2 rifles and about 500 rounds of 7.62x39. i doubt that would be legal in your country, but it is here. :)
A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud
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Sometimes i think you europeans are jealous of our right to bear arms.
No, not really. I don't mind if you have a gun or not, but some arguements for guns are arguements against guns, too. Often it is said "we need guns to protect ourself against criminals with guns". If guns aren't allowed for everybody it's harder to get one even for criminals. Another point is that more people are shot by criminals than criminals shot by people defending theirselves. If it would be vice versa it would be a good arguement, but as it isn't that way, it's none. Don't get me wrong. If you had bazooka, shells and MPs at home, I won't mind. I'm far away. But if you would be my neighbour I wouldn't like that. :)
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I am 16
Ah! That explains a lot ;) Regards, Ingo
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fat_boy wrote:
There is no excuse in a modern, civilised, society for any weapon other than a target, or hunting weapon.
well if it isn't the Oracle of all that is civilized. I have mine as a last bastion of protection against bomb vest wearing religous fanatics and the Clintonites.
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
I have mine as a last bastion of protection against bomb vest wearing religous fanatics and the Clintonites.
You forgot "little green men from Mars" You sound, to me, as a very unsecure person who MUST constantly be looking over your shoulder in case somebody drops a paperclip that makes an almighty clanging noise. Did you Americans have an inadequate upbringing ?
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Mike Gaskey wrote:
I have mine as a last bastion of protection against bomb vest wearing religous fanatics and the Clintonites.
You forgot "little green men from Mars" You sound, to me, as a very unsecure person who MUST constantly be looking over your shoulder in case somebody drops a paperclip that makes an almighty clanging noise. Did you Americans have an inadequate upbringing ?
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
You sound, to me, as a very unsecure person who MUST constantly be looking over your shoulder in case somebody drops a paperclip that makes an almighty clanging noise.
aww, geez. I was really looking for your approval.
Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors. Vincent Reynolds: My opposition is as enlightened as your support, jackass. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.
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You have to remember that the 2nd amendment was only a prohibition upon the federal government. Under Jeffersonian principles, state and local governments could exercise gun control all they liked and have frequently done so. But as I said below, guns, like cars, are such an instrinsic part of our culture, it is going to be virtually impossible to get rid of them to any meaningful extent.
Thank God for disproportional force.
Stan Shannon wrote:
You have to remember that the 2nd amendment was only a prohibition upon the federal government. Under Jeffersonian principles, state and local governments could exercise gun control all they liked and have frequently done so.
Unfortunately, Lincoln threw those principles out the window.
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Sometimes i think you europeans are jealous of our right to bear arms. I am 16 and have 2 rifles and about 500 rounds of 7.62x39. i doubt that would be legal in your country, but it is here. :)
A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud
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Sometimes i think you europeans are jealous of our right to bear arms. I am 16 and have 2 rifles and about 500 rounds of 7.62x39. i doubt that would be legal in your country, but it is here
I still prefer a good halberd[^]...it's just so much more personal. ;P
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
You sound, to me, as a very unsecure person who MUST constantly be looking over your shoulder in case somebody drops a paperclip that makes an almighty clanging noise.
aww, geez. I was really looking for your approval.
Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors. Vincent Reynolds: My opposition is as enlightened as your support, jackass. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.
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First, I do not own any guns. Just never found hunting fun. Where I live, we need people to hunt the land. Otherwise there would be too many deer, cougars, turkeys, geese...you name it. However, I don't think you need a 9mm to shoot a duck. I think that yes, we have the right to bear arms, but here is what I think the restrictions should be: 1. You can own a shotgun or rifle if you prove you have had a hunting license in the last five years. 2. No one should be allowed to own more than 2 handguns. Why? Because if there was a revolution you only have 2 hands. More than that is overkill. (Pun intended.) I don't understand why people horde guns and have their own arsenal. I don't understand the joy of shooting targets, animals or anything else. So while I agree with you to a certain extent, stop putting us all in one category! :-D
leckey wrote:
2. No one should be allowed to own more than 2 handguns. Why? Because if there was a revolution you only have 2 hands. More than that is overkill. (Pun intended.)
Do all of your friends have arms as well? If not, wouldn't you want to be able to arm your friends/neighbors/etc to cover your back?
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We have moved on from the 18th century. You have an army to defend the place, you dont need guns. And if you think owning a gun is defence against a tyranical run army well, unless you have tanks and helicopters too you arte totally out matched. There is no excuse in a modern, civilised, society for any weapon other than a target, or hunting weapon. The wild west has finished guys. Didnt anyone tell you?
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
fat_boy wrote:
And if you think owning a gun is defence against a tyranical run army well, unless you have tanks and helicopters too you arte totally out matched.
Tell that to the insurgents in Iraq...
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First, I do not own any guns. Just never found hunting fun. Where I live, we need people to hunt the land. Otherwise there would be too many deer, cougars, turkeys, geese...you name it. However, I don't think you need a 9mm to shoot a duck. I think that yes, we have the right to bear arms, but here is what I think the restrictions should be: 1. You can own a shotgun or rifle if you prove you have had a hunting license in the last five years. 2. No one should be allowed to own more than 2 handguns. Why? Because if there was a revolution you only have 2 hands. More than that is overkill. (Pun intended.) I don't understand why people horde guns and have their own arsenal. I don't understand the joy of shooting targets, animals or anything else. So while I agree with you to a certain extent, stop putting us all in one category! :-D
leckey wrote:
I don't think you need a 9mm to shoot a duck.
If you can hit a flying duck with a 9mm pistol, you're a damn good shot, though (and you have every right to brag about it)...
leckey wrote:
You can own a shotgun or rifle if you prove you have had a hunting license in the last five years.
What good is a hunting license if you don't have a gun with which to hunt? I assume your five-year grace period would be used to prove that you know how to handle a rifle or shotgun, but since you can't own one of those until the end of the "grace period", the only thing you've proven is that you've out-lasted the regulating entity and deserve to now own a rifle or shoitgun simply because you're patient.
leckey wrote:
No one should be allowed to own more than 2 handguns. Why? Because if there was a revolution you only have 2 hands.
Hmmm, clevere, but bad idea. During a revolution, you would probably loose one or more weapons during the obviously intense fighting. Simply giving up and gong home because you happen to lose track of both your handguns isn't good for your buddies in the trenches. Being a revolutionary, you would probably strip the weapons and ammo off the dead guy next to you (or even an enemy soldier) and continue fighting. Besides that, if you TOOK someone else's weapon, it wouldn't technically be yours because someone else already owns it.
leckey wrote:
I don't understand why people horde guns and have their own arsenal. I don't understand the joy of shooting targets, animals or anything else.
That's because you're a girl, and guns are man things, and men don't expect girls to understand man things. Men don't understand the joy women obviously experience when they're cooking or doing laundry or cleaning the house. Those are girl things, and girls don't expect men to understand those things. Life was much easier when we lived in caves. Men and women knew their place in the natural order of things - men carried the weapons and women carried the children. -- modified at 13:52 Thursday 24th August, 2006
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We have moved on from the 18th century. You have an army to defend the place, you dont need guns. And if you think owning a gun is defence against a tyranical run army well, unless you have tanks and helicopters too you arte totally out matched. There is no excuse in a modern, civilised, society for any weapon other than a target, or hunting weapon. The wild west has finished guys. Didnt anyone tell you?
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
fat_boy wrote:
The wild west has finished guys. Didnt anyone tell you?
Look, buddy. You don't live here. You aren't the one who has to be worried about getting car-jacked by a shotgun-wielding meth addict. Why not leave the self-satisfied ranting to those of us who do?
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fat_boy wrote:
And if you think owning a gun is defence against a tyranical run army well, unless you have tanks and helicopters too you arte totally out matched.
Tell that to the insurgents in Iraq...
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001My 5. No enemy is as difficult for a traditional Army to combat as is an armed indigenous insurgency. Nukes, ballistic missiles, tanks,helicopters, and heavy artillery are little help.
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My 5. No enemy is as difficult for a traditional Army to combat as is an armed indigenous insurgency. Nukes, ballistic missiles, tanks,helicopters, and heavy artillery are little help.
Rob Graham wrote:
No enemy is as difficult for a traditional Army to combat as is an armed indigenous insurgency.
A highly restrained conventional army, perhaps. Remember that we're trying to bring Democracy to Iraq rather than conquer it. That's where the problems lie.
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Rob Graham wrote:
No enemy is as difficult for a traditional Army to combat as is an armed indigenous insurgency.
A highly restrained conventional army, perhaps. Remember that we're trying to bring Democracy to Iraq rather than conquer it. That's where the problems lie.
espeir wrote:
A highly restrained conventional army, perhaps. Remember that we're trying to bring Democracy to Iraq rather than conquer it. That's where the problems lie.
But we still lost in Vietnam to a guerrilla(sp?) force, and our army was not "highly restrained".
A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud
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espeir wrote:
A highly restrained conventional army, perhaps. Remember that we're trying to bring Democracy to Iraq rather than conquer it. That's where the problems lie.
But we still lost in Vietnam to a guerrilla(sp?) force, and our army was not "highly restrained".
A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud
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But we still lost in Vietnam to a guerrilla(sp?) force, and our army was not "highly restrained".
Of course it was highly restrained. That's why it was referred to as a "police action".
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But we still lost in Vietnam to a guerrilla(sp?) force, and our army was not "highly restrained".
Of course it was highly restrained. That's why it was referred to as a "police action".
The soviets lost to the guerilla force in Afganistan.
A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud
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First, I do not own any guns. Just never found hunting fun. Where I live, we need people to hunt the land. Otherwise there would be too many deer, cougars, turkeys, geese...you name it. However, I don't think you need a 9mm to shoot a duck. I think that yes, we have the right to bear arms, but here is what I think the restrictions should be: 1. You can own a shotgun or rifle if you prove you have had a hunting license in the last five years. 2. No one should be allowed to own more than 2 handguns. Why? Because if there was a revolution you only have 2 hands. More than that is overkill. (Pun intended.) I don't understand why people horde guns and have their own arsenal. I don't understand the joy of shooting targets, animals or anything else. So while I agree with you to a certain extent, stop putting us all in one category! :-D
leckey wrote:
I think that yes, we have the right to bear arms...
Did you write that Simpsons episode or did you mean bare?
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leckey wrote:
1. You can own a shotgun or rifle if you prove you have had a hunting license in the last five years. 2. No one should be allowed to own more than 2 handguns. Why? Because if there was a revolution you only have 2 hands. More than that is overkill. (Pun intended.) I don't understand why people horde guns and have their own arsenal. I don't understand the joy of shooting targets, animals or anything else.
I am glad you are not in a position of authority.
A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud
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I am glad you are not in a position of authority.
You go 16 year old boy.
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leckey wrote:
2. No one should be allowed to own more than 2 handguns. Why? Because if there was a revolution you only have 2 hands. More than that is overkill. (Pun intended.)
Do all of your friends have arms as well? If not, wouldn't you want to be able to arm your friends/neighbors/etc to cover your back?
dan neely wrote:
Do all of your friends have arms as well? If not, wouldn't you want to be able to arm your friends/neighbors/etc to cover your back?
As good Yankees, and capitalists, shouldn't they have purchased their own?
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leckey wrote:
I don't think you need a 9mm to shoot a duck.
If you can hit a flying duck with a 9mm pistol, you're a damn good shot, though (and you have every right to brag about it)...
leckey wrote:
You can own a shotgun or rifle if you prove you have had a hunting license in the last five years.
What good is a hunting license if you don't have a gun with which to hunt? I assume your five-year grace period would be used to prove that you know how to handle a rifle or shotgun, but since you can't own one of those until the end of the "grace period", the only thing you've proven is that you've out-lasted the regulating entity and deserve to now own a rifle or shoitgun simply because you're patient.
leckey wrote:
No one should be allowed to own more than 2 handguns. Why? Because if there was a revolution you only have 2 hands.
Hmmm, clevere, but bad idea. During a revolution, you would probably loose one or more weapons during the obviously intense fighting. Simply giving up and gong home because you happen to lose track of both your handguns isn't good for your buddies in the trenches. Being a revolutionary, you would probably strip the weapons and ammo off the dead guy next to you (or even an enemy soldier) and continue fighting. Besides that, if you TOOK someone else's weapon, it wouldn't technically be yours because someone else already owns it.
leckey wrote:
I don't understand why people horde guns and have their own arsenal. I don't understand the joy of shooting targets, animals or anything else.
That's because you're a girl, and guns are man things, and men don't expect girls to understand man things. Men don't understand the joy women obviously experience when they're cooking or doing laundry or cleaning the house. Those are girl things, and girls don't expect men to understand those things. Life was much easier when we lived in caves. Men and women knew their place in the natural order of things - men carried the weapons and women carried the children. -- modified at 13:52 Thursday 24th August, 2006
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Life was much easier when we lived in caves. Men and women knew their place in the natural order of things - men carried the weapons and women carried the children.
And real men didn't cut there hands off with mitre saws or marry meat eating elephants.
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