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You Americans are obsessed with guns. What is it, Penis envy?

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  • L leckey 0

    First, I do not own any guns. Just never found hunting fun. Where I live, we need people to hunt the land. Otherwise there would be too many deer, cougars, turkeys, geese...you name it. However, I don't think you need a 9mm to shoot a duck. I think that yes, we have the right to bear arms, but here is what I think the restrictions should be: 1. You can own a shotgun or rifle if you prove you have had a hunting license in the last five years. 2. No one should be allowed to own more than 2 handguns. Why? Because if there was a revolution you only have 2 hands. More than that is overkill. (Pun intended.) I don't understand why people horde guns and have their own arsenal. I don't understand the joy of shooting targets, animals or anything else. So while I agree with you to a certain extent, stop putting us all in one category! :-D

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    leckey wrote:

    I don't think you need a 9mm to shoot a duck.

    If you can hit a flying duck with a 9mm pistol, you're a damn good shot, though (and you have every right to brag about it)...

    leckey wrote:

    You can own a shotgun or rifle if you prove you have had a hunting license in the last five years.

    What good is a hunting license if you don't have a gun with which to hunt? I assume your five-year grace period would be used to prove that you know how to handle a rifle or shotgun, but since you can't own one of those until the end of the "grace period", the only thing you've proven is that you've out-lasted the regulating entity and deserve to now own a rifle or shoitgun simply because you're patient.

    leckey wrote:

    No one should be allowed to own more than 2 handguns. Why? Because if there was a revolution you only have 2 hands.

    Hmmm, clevere, but bad idea. During a revolution, you would probably loose one or more weapons during the obviously intense fighting. Simply giving up and gong home because you happen to lose track of both your handguns isn't good for your buddies in the trenches. Being a revolutionary, you would probably strip the weapons and ammo off the dead guy next to you (or even an enemy soldier) and continue fighting. Besides that, if you TOOK someone else's weapon, it wouldn't technically be yours because someone else already owns it.

    leckey wrote:

    I don't understand why people horde guns and have their own arsenal. I don't understand the joy of shooting targets, animals or anything else.

    That's because you're a girl, and guns are man things, and men don't expect girls to understand man things. Men don't understand the joy women obviously experience when they're cooking or doing laundry or cleaning the house. Those are girl things, and girls don't expect men to understand those things. Life was much easier when we lived in caves. Men and women knew their place in the natural order of things - men carried the weapons and women carried the children. -- modified at 13:52 Thursday 24th August, 2006

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      We have moved on from the 18th century. You have an army to defend the place, you dont need guns. And if you think owning a gun is defence against a tyranical run army well, unless you have tanks and helicopters too you arte totally out matched. There is no excuse in a modern, civilised, society for any weapon other than a target, or hunting weapon. The wild west has finished guys. Didnt anyone tell you?

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      fat_boy wrote:

      The wild west has finished guys. Didnt anyone tell you?

      Look, buddy. You don't live here. You aren't the one who has to be worried about getting car-jacked by a shotgun-wielding meth addict. Why not leave the self-satisfied ranting to those of us who do?

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        fat_boy wrote:

        And if you think owning a gun is defence against a tyranical run army well, unless you have tanks and helicopters too you arte totally out matched.

        Tell that to the insurgents in Iraq...

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        My 5. No enemy is as difficult for a traditional Army to combat as is an armed indigenous insurgency. Nukes, ballistic missiles, tanks,helicopters, and heavy artillery are little help.

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          My 5. No enemy is as difficult for a traditional Army to combat as is an armed indigenous insurgency. Nukes, ballistic missiles, tanks,helicopters, and heavy artillery are little help.

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          Rob Graham wrote:

          No enemy is as difficult for a traditional Army to combat as is an armed indigenous insurgency.

          A highly restrained conventional army, perhaps. Remember that we're trying to bring Democracy to Iraq rather than conquer it. That's where the problems lie.

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            Rob Graham wrote:

            No enemy is as difficult for a traditional Army to combat as is an armed indigenous insurgency.

            A highly restrained conventional army, perhaps. Remember that we're trying to bring Democracy to Iraq rather than conquer it. That's where the problems lie.

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            espeir wrote:

            A highly restrained conventional army, perhaps. Remember that we're trying to bring Democracy to Iraq rather than conquer it. That's where the problems lie.

            But we still lost in Vietnam to a guerrilla(sp?) force, and our army was not "highly restrained".

            A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud

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              espeir wrote:

              A highly restrained conventional army, perhaps. Remember that we're trying to bring Democracy to Iraq rather than conquer it. That's where the problems lie.

              But we still lost in Vietnam to a guerrilla(sp?) force, and our army was not "highly restrained".

              A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud

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              But we still lost in Vietnam to a guerrilla(sp?) force, and our army was not "highly restrained".

              Of course it was highly restrained. That's why it was referred to as a "police action".

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                But we still lost in Vietnam to a guerrilla(sp?) force, and our army was not "highly restrained".

                Of course it was highly restrained. That's why it was referred to as a "police action".

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                The soviets lost to the guerilla force in Afganistan.

                A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud

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                  First, I do not own any guns. Just never found hunting fun. Where I live, we need people to hunt the land. Otherwise there would be too many deer, cougars, turkeys, geese...you name it. However, I don't think you need a 9mm to shoot a duck. I think that yes, we have the right to bear arms, but here is what I think the restrictions should be: 1. You can own a shotgun or rifle if you prove you have had a hunting license in the last five years. 2. No one should be allowed to own more than 2 handguns. Why? Because if there was a revolution you only have 2 hands. More than that is overkill. (Pun intended.) I don't understand why people horde guns and have their own arsenal. I don't understand the joy of shooting targets, animals or anything else. So while I agree with you to a certain extent, stop putting us all in one category! :-D

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                  leckey wrote:

                  I think that yes, we have the right to bear arms...

                  Did you write that Simpsons episode or did you mean bare?

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                    leckey wrote:

                    1. You can own a shotgun or rifle if you prove you have had a hunting license in the last five years. 2. No one should be allowed to own more than 2 handguns. Why? Because if there was a revolution you only have 2 hands. More than that is overkill. (Pun intended.) I don't understand why people horde guns and have their own arsenal. I don't understand the joy of shooting targets, animals or anything else.

                    I am glad you are not in a position of authority.

                    A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud

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                    I am glad you are not in a position of authority.

                    You go 16 year old boy.

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                      leckey wrote:

                      2. No one should be allowed to own more than 2 handguns. Why? Because if there was a revolution you only have 2 hands. More than that is overkill. (Pun intended.)

                      Do all of your friends have arms as well? If not, wouldn't you want to be able to arm your friends/neighbors/etc to cover your back?

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                      dan neely wrote:

                      Do all of your friends have arms as well? If not, wouldn't you want to be able to arm your friends/neighbors/etc to cover your back?

                      As good Yankees, and capitalists, shouldn't they have purchased their own?

                      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                        leckey wrote:

                        I don't think you need a 9mm to shoot a duck.

                        If you can hit a flying duck with a 9mm pistol, you're a damn good shot, though (and you have every right to brag about it)...

                        leckey wrote:

                        You can own a shotgun or rifle if you prove you have had a hunting license in the last five years.

                        What good is a hunting license if you don't have a gun with which to hunt? I assume your five-year grace period would be used to prove that you know how to handle a rifle or shotgun, but since you can't own one of those until the end of the "grace period", the only thing you've proven is that you've out-lasted the regulating entity and deserve to now own a rifle or shoitgun simply because you're patient.

                        leckey wrote:

                        No one should be allowed to own more than 2 handguns. Why? Because if there was a revolution you only have 2 hands.

                        Hmmm, clevere, but bad idea. During a revolution, you would probably loose one or more weapons during the obviously intense fighting. Simply giving up and gong home because you happen to lose track of both your handguns isn't good for your buddies in the trenches. Being a revolutionary, you would probably strip the weapons and ammo off the dead guy next to you (or even an enemy soldier) and continue fighting. Besides that, if you TOOK someone else's weapon, it wouldn't technically be yours because someone else already owns it.

                        leckey wrote:

                        I don't understand why people horde guns and have their own arsenal. I don't understand the joy of shooting targets, animals or anything else.

                        That's because you're a girl, and guns are man things, and men don't expect girls to understand man things. Men don't understand the joy women obviously experience when they're cooking or doing laundry or cleaning the house. Those are girl things, and girls don't expect men to understand those things. Life was much easier when we lived in caves. Men and women knew their place in the natural order of things - men carried the weapons and women carried the children. -- modified at 13:52 Thursday 24th August, 2006

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                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                        Life was much easier when we lived in caves. Men and women knew their place in the natural order of things - men carried the weapons and women carried the children.

                        And real men didn't cut there hands off with mitre saws or marry meat eating elephants.

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                          fat_boy wrote:

                          There is no excuse in a modern, civilised, society for any weapon other than a target, or hunting weapon.

                          well if it isn't the Oracle of all that is civilized. I have mine as a last bastion of protection against bomb vest wearing religous fanatics and the Clintonites.

                          Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors. Vincent Reynolds: My opposition is as enlightened as your support, jackass. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                          Mike Gaskey wrote:

                          I have mine as a last bastion of protection against bomb vest wearing religous fanatics...

                          So with allyou well armed and attentive Yanks how do the suicide bombers succeed?

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                            Sometimes i think you europeans are jealous of our right to bear arms. I am 16 and have 2 rifles and about 500 rounds of 7.62x39. i doubt that would be legal in your country, but it is here. :)

                            A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud

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                            Sometimes i think you europeans are jealous of our right to bear arms.

                            While us Aussies are jealous of the spelling abilities of 16 year old 'Mercans who seem to believe that owning guns will solve all problems.

                            Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                              The soviets lost to the guerilla force in Afganistan.

                              A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud

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                              Yeah, well...They sucked.

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                                My 5. No enemy is as difficult for a traditional Army to combat as is an armed indigenous insurgency. Nukes, ballistic missiles, tanks,helicopters, and heavy artillery are little help.

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                                Rob Graham wrote:

                                No enemy is as difficult for a traditional Army to combat as is an armed indigenous insurgency. Nukes, ballistic missiles, tanks,helicopters, and heavy artillery are little help.

                                Smart bombs and friendly fire help though, don't they.

                                Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                                  Score: 1.0 (3 votes). wrote:

                                  Sometimes i think you europeans are jealous of our right to bear arms.

                                  While us Aussies are jealous of the spelling abilities of 16 year old 'Mercans who seem to believe that owning guns will solve all problems.

                                  Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                                  Michael Martin wrote:

                                  While us Aussies are jealous of the spelling abilities of 16 year old 'Mercans who seem to believe that owning guns will solve all problems.

                                  Just owning them will not fix anything.

                                  A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud

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                                    Mike Gaskey wrote:

                                    I have mine as a last bastion of protection against bomb vest wearing religous fanatics...

                                    So with allyou well armed and attentive Yanks how do the suicide bombers succeed?

                                    Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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                                    Michael Martin wrote:

                                    So with allyou well armed and attentive Yanks how do the suicide bombers succeed?

                                    they don't.

                                    Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors. Vincent Reynolds: My opposition is as enlightened as your support, jackass. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                                      Sometimes i think you europeans are jealous of our right to bear arms.

                                      No, not really. I don't mind if you have a gun or not, but some arguements for guns are arguements against guns, too. Often it is said "we need guns to protect ourself against criminals with guns". If guns aren't allowed for everybody it's harder to get one even for criminals. Another point is that more people are shot by criminals than criminals shot by people defending theirselves. If it would be vice versa it would be a good arguement, but as it isn't that way, it's none. Don't get me wrong. If you had bazooka, shells and MPs at home, I won't mind. I'm far away. But if you would be my neighbour I wouldn't like that. :)

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                                      I am 16

                                      Ah! That explains a lot ;) Regards, Ingo

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                                      "Often it is said "we need guns to protect ourself against criminals with guns". If guns aren't allowed for everybody it's harder to get one even for criminals." That is totally false; you should learn to think before you act. It has been proven that only the criminals will have the guns. Hence why they are criminals.

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                                        "Often it is said "we need guns to protect ourself against criminals with guns". If guns aren't allowed for everybody it's harder to get one even for criminals." That is totally false; you should learn to think before you act. It has been proven that only the criminals will have the guns. Hence why they are criminals.

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                                        Madmaximus wrote:

                                        That is totally false; you should learn to think before you act.

                                        You should do that yourself.

                                        Madmaximus wrote:

                                        It has been proven that only the criminals will have the guns. Hence why they are criminals.

                                        Show the proof. That's of course nonsense. Many guns bought by normal people are used for crimes. Why are so many crimes with guns in America, more than in those countries, where guns are not allowed?

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                                          fat_boy wrote:

                                          The wild west has finished guys. Didnt anyone tell you?

                                          Look, buddy. You don't live here. You aren't the one who has to be worried about getting car-jacked by a shotgun-wielding meth addict. Why not leave the self-satisfied ranting to those of us who do?

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                                          Shog9 wrote:

                                          car-jacked by a shotgun-wielding meth addict

                                          I suppose you will be lumping together all those "illegal" Mexicans and blaming them for all the ills of you Americans :~

                                          Shog9 wrote:

                                          self-satisfied ranting

                                          And are you self-satisfied ?

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