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You Americans are obsessed with guns. What is it, Penis envy?

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  • L Lost User

    Score: 1.0 (3 votes). wrote:

    Meth makes makes people into strange zombie-like creatures that are willing to do anything to get their drugs

    Ha ha ha! Where the fuck did you hear that crap! You been sitting on daddys knee listening to monster stories again? Listen kiddy, and listen well. I've taken speed (meth) plenty of times. You talk, you dance, you stay up all night, have a laugh, and probably talk too much. Then you go to sleep for 2 days. Thats it. Its nothing. Shit, it used to be legal till the 60's.

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    fat_boy wrote:

    You been sitting on daddys knee listening to monster stories again

    That would explain his worldly wisdom. Don't scare him too much, afterall, he's just out of nappies, :-D :doh: Also, we don't want him to become a statistic as highlighted here [^] :sigh:

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      fat_boy wrote:

      You been sitting on daddys knee listening to monster stories again

      That would explain his worldly wisdom. Don't scare him too much, afterall, he's just out of nappies, :-D :doh: Also, we don't want him to become a statistic as highlighted here [^] :sigh:

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      I can just imaging Kyle hanging around, drinking, with his mates. One of them, perhaps he doesnt know him that well, starts messing around with the rifle. Loads a .762 round, and bang. It'll kill a man at 2 miles. At close range, it'll go straight through you and the wall behind. Yep, he could become one of those stats a lot easier than my kid.

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      • L Lost User

        Stan Shannon wrote:

        an instrinsic part of our culture

        They used to be all over europe too. But we got used to it.

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        fat_boy wrote:

        They used to be all over europe too

        Not the same thing at all.

        Thank God for disproportional force.

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        • K KaRl

          Stan Shannon wrote:

          You have to remember that the 2nd amendment was only a prohibition upon the federal government. Under Jeffersonian principles, state and local governments could exercise gun control all they liked and have frequently done so.

          So technically, States could have laws contradicting federal ones?


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          K(arl) wrote:

          So technically, States could have laws contradicting federal ones?

          Traditionally, the concept was based on the 9th and 10th amendments - those powers not specifically granted to the federal government by the constitution belonged to the states and to the people. (That was always considered the 'Jeffersonian' solution.) Over the course of the 20th century, however, the federal courts began more and more to use the 14th amendment to give the federal government more and more power based upon judicial interpretations of "equal protection". (This is clearly not a Jeffersonian approach but indicates, to many, such as myself, the introduction of generally Marxist concepts into our political system.) So, no, the states could never 'contradict' federal law, but if the federal government could not do something, state and local governments frequently did and until recently, the federal courts had no problems with it. For example, simply because the 2nd amendment prohibited the federal government from restricting gun ownership, the states were completely free to do so. That was what American federalism was originally all about.

          Thank God for disproportional force.

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            K(arl) wrote:

            So technically, States could have laws contradicting federal ones?

            Traditionally, the concept was based on the 9th and 10th amendments - those powers not specifically granted to the federal government by the constitution belonged to the states and to the people. (That was always considered the 'Jeffersonian' solution.) Over the course of the 20th century, however, the federal courts began more and more to use the 14th amendment to give the federal government more and more power based upon judicial interpretations of "equal protection". (This is clearly not a Jeffersonian approach but indicates, to many, such as myself, the introduction of generally Marxist concepts into our political system.) So, no, the states could never 'contradict' federal law, but if the federal government could not do something, state and local governments frequently did and until recently, the federal courts had no problems with it. For example, simply because the 2nd amendment prohibited the federal government from restricting gun ownership, the states were completely free to do so. That was what American federalism was originally all about.

            Thank God for disproportional force.

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            Stan Shannon wrote:

            For example, simply because the 2nd amendment prohibited the federal government from restricting gun ownership, the states were completely free to do so

            Then the Bill of rights has no value at the State level, right? The 50 states could then decide to use torture without violating the constitution. Is there no Bill of Rights for the individual States?


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            • L Lost User

              Shog9 wrote:

              worried about getting car-jacked by a shotgun-wielding meth addict.

              And have you ever seen a shotgun wielding meth adict? Ever seen one car jacking? Perhaps a car ahead of, or behind you in the traffic? Do you think you will ever see one? Ever be car jacked?

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              fat_boy wrote:

              Do you think you will ever see one? Ever be car jacked?

              I've never seen one, i hope to never be one. :) The closest i've been was earlier this year, while my car was in the shop, i sat reading in the office, a few blocks to the east some guy drove a jacked SUV through the window of a shop, walk across the street, pulled a mother of two from her car and drove off (with her kids still in the back seat). Interestingly, his shotgun had been wrestled away by the owner of the SUV and thrown out prior to the crash. Realistically, in this town of under 100K, there are only a handful of carjackings. If i wanted to worry, getting hit by inattentive drivers would be a far bigger possibility. :)

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              • S Stan Shannon

                fat_boy wrote:

                They used to be all over europe too

                Not the same thing at all.

                Thank God for disproportional force.

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                Stan Shannon wrote:

                Not the same thing at all.

                You are right. We are civilised.

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                • L Lost User

                  Shog9 wrote:

                  It's no wonder they have such a reputation for violence

                  What utter crap. If you havent tried speed you dont know what you are talking about and should not venture your ignorant opinions.

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                  fat_boy wrote:

                  If you havent tried speed you dont know what you are talking about and should not venture your ignorant opinions.

                  Who pissed in your oatmeal? If i'd said i dislike skiers 'cause the power makes 'em arrogant dicks, you'd take offense at that too? I didn't talk about the neighbors manufacturing the shit. I didn't talk about the two friends beating each other senseless as paranoia and burnout took over. I didn't talk about the other friend who lost her kids, or my wife's former employer who lost her business. So why not wait 'till i make a serious post about meth before getting all defensive.

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                    fat_boy wrote:

                    If you havent tried speed you dont know what you are talking about and should not venture your ignorant opinions.

                    Who pissed in your oatmeal? If i'd said i dislike skiers 'cause the power makes 'em arrogant dicks, you'd take offense at that too? I didn't talk about the neighbors manufacturing the shit. I didn't talk about the two friends beating each other senseless as paranoia and burnout took over. I didn't talk about the other friend who lost her kids, or my wife's former employer who lost her business. So why not wait 'till i make a serious post about meth before getting all defensive.

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                    Shog9 wrote:

                    Who pissed in your oatmeal

                    Ha ha! Hey just having a laugh you know. ;)

                    Shog9 wrote:

                    two friends beating each other senseless as paranoia and burnout took over. I didn't talk about the other friend who lost her kids, or my wife's former employer who lost her business

                    Seriously, you put all that down to speed? They sound like assholes to me. Dont forget, some people are so feeble they get hooked on one arm bandits. How pathetic is that? Give someone like that speed and you they are gauranteed to fall off the rails.

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                    • L Lost User

                      Shog9 wrote:

                      Who pissed in your oatmeal

                      Ha ha! Hey just having a laugh you know. ;)

                      Shog9 wrote:

                      two friends beating each other senseless as paranoia and burnout took over. I didn't talk about the other friend who lost her kids, or my wife's former employer who lost her business

                      Seriously, you put all that down to speed? They sound like assholes to me. Dont forget, some people are so feeble they get hooked on one arm bandits. How pathetic is that? Give someone like that speed and you they are gauranteed to fall off the rails.

                      Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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                      fat_boy wrote:

                      Seriously, you put all that down to speed?

                      Honestly? No. I don't think it helped any, but their behaviors are such that without any drugs there'd still be problems. Speaking personally, i react badly to anything stronger than coffee, so i avoid strong stimulants so as to avoid problems. A lot of people don't. At some point, it's like the guy passed out behind the liquor store with old vomit clinging to his beard - you don't know what led him there, but it doesn't matter, you know where he is now.

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                      • K KaRl

                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                        For example, simply because the 2nd amendment prohibited the federal government from restricting gun ownership, the states were completely free to do so

                        Then the Bill of rights has no value at the State level, right? The 50 states could then decide to use torture without violating the constitution. Is there no Bill of Rights for the individual States?


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                        K(arl) wrote:

                        The 50 states could then decide to use torture without violating the constitution.

                        Traditionally, yes. But, then, the theory of American federalism is that the best way of protecting a society from torture, for example, is to get the decision making power about torture as close to those who would be the victims of it as possible. If you leave that power in the hands of some sort of centralized elite, constitution or no constitution, the odds of torture happening on a grand scale go up accordingly. The US constitution, expecially the bill or rights, is all about getting as much power as practically possible out of the hands of the federal government. That is precisely why the founders would have been so appalled by the current power of the courts. That isn't what they intended

                        K(arl) wrote:

                        Is there no Bill of Rights for the individual States?

                        Yes, I believe most states have their own in some form or other.

                        Thank God for disproportional force.

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                        • L Lost User

                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                          Not the same thing at all.

                          You are right. We are civilised.

                          Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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                          fat_boy wrote:

                          We are civilised.

                          And you're welcome to it.

                          Thank God for disproportional force.

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                          • M Mike Gaskey

                            Michael Martin wrote:

                            So with allyou well armed and attentive Yanks how do the suicide bombers succeed?

                            they don't.

                            Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors. Vincent Reynolds: My opposition is as enlightened as your support, jackass. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.

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                            Mike Gaskey wrote:

                            they don't.

                            They have.

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                            • L Lost User

                              Score: 1.0 (3 votes). wrote:

                              I am 16 and have 2 rifles and about 500 rounds of 7.62x39

                              I hope you have plenty of valid targets on which to use such powerfull ammunition. I relly hope you do.

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                              It is not extremely powerful compared to other cartridges, although it is slightly more powerful than the 5.56x45 cartridge that the military uses.

                              A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud

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                                fat_boy wrote:

                                Seriously, you put all that down to speed?

                                Honestly? No. I don't think it helped any, but their behaviors are such that without any drugs there'd still be problems. Speaking personally, i react badly to anything stronger than coffee, so i avoid strong stimulants so as to avoid problems. A lot of people don't. At some point, it's like the guy passed out behind the liquor store with old vomit clinging to his beard - you don't know what led him there, but it doesn't matter, you know where he is now.

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                                Yep, its all about maturity, self knowledge, self understanding.

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                                  It is not extremely powerful compared to other cartridges, although it is slightly more powerful than the 5.56x45 cartridge that the military uses.

                                  A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity. - Sigmund Freud

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                                  If the 7.62 you have is the same as the NATO round, and semi jacketed, there is no comparison. I wouldnt use a 5.56 for hunting deer, it wouldnt kill quick enough.

                                  Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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