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  • R Red Stateler

    Hello, world! wrote:

    More republican dribble. Had we used a half-way modern voting system, Gore would have won. He had the popular vote.

    :laugh: I can't believe people still believe that.

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    Lost User
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    espeir wrote:

    I can't believe people still believe that.

    Not everyone is as a stupid as you are.

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      espeir wrote:

      I can't believe people still believe that.

      Not everyone is as a stupid as you are.

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      Red Stateler
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      If they were, they'd run out of nobel prizes.

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      • R Red Stateler

        The fact that you consider Bush's clear and legal victory a coup is itself bitterness. Do you grind your teeth at night?

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        dennisd45
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        You have a bizarre need to define other people's feeling and opinions. It does simplify your life - you don't actually have to listen to what anybody actually says.

        No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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          You have a bizarre need to define other people's feeling and opinions. It does simplify your life - you don't actually have to listen to what anybody actually says.

          No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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          Red Stateler
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          I don't define them. I observe them. Consider my talent a curse on you.

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            espeir wrote:

            clear and legal victory

            More republican dribble. Had we used a half-way modern voting system, Gore would have won. He had the popular vote.

            espeir wrote:

            Do you grind your teeth at night?

            Do you suck your thumb at night?

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            TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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            Hello, world! wrote:

            Had we used a half-way modern voting system, Gore would have won. He had the popular vote.

            No so. Every single study of the election by groups and newspapers on both sides of the political spectrum and of all of the contested ballots in Florida concluded that Bush won, hands down. Thank God and the stars that we don't have a popular vote in the United States! The popular vote is too easily swayed by hyperbole, demagoguery and histrionics.

            Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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            • R Red Stateler

              I don't define them. I observe them. Consider my talent a curse on you.

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              dennisd45
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              You do define. Unfortunately you do not observe. For you it is not a talent, but a curse.

              No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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              • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                Hello, world! wrote:

                Had we used a half-way modern voting system, Gore would have won. He had the popular vote.

                No so. Every single study of the election by groups and newspapers on both sides of the political spectrum and of all of the contested ballots in Florida concluded that Bush won, hands down. Thank God and the stars that we don't have a popular vote in the United States! The popular vote is too easily swayed by hyperbole, demagoguery and histrionics.

                Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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                dennisd45
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                ahz wrote:

                No so. Every single study of the election by groups and newspapers on both sides of the political spectrum and of all of the contested ballots in Florida concluded that Bush won, hands down.

                Untrue. The group of newspapers that did a recount found that in 6 of the 9 recount scenarios, Gore would have won. But none of that is actually relevant, since the Supreme court, aborted the election process and gave the presidency to Bush.

                No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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                • L Lost User

                  It is sad but America is really like this http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0635,fiore,74276,9.html[^]

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                  Vincent Reynolds
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                  Kyle?

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                  • V Vincent Reynolds

                    Kyle?

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                    Lost User
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                    Vincent Reynolds wrote:

                    Kyle?

                    Who's that?

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                    • L Lost User

                      Vincent Reynolds wrote:

                      Kyle?

                      Who's that?

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                      Shog9 0
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                      A kid who likes to troll here from time to time by creating new user accounts and posting inane messages purporting to be from the far right/far left...

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                      • S Shog9 0

                        A kid who likes to troll here from time to time by creating new user accounts and posting inane messages purporting to be from the far right/far left...

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                        Lost User
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                        No, i dont think i am him. :) What is his screen name?

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                        • L Lost User

                          No, i dont think i am him. :) What is his screen name?

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                          Shog9 0
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                          Hello, world! wrote:

                          What is his screen name?

                          Well, there's the rub, eh? You might as well ask for a portrait of The Trickster! What is his screen name today?

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                          • S Shog9 0

                            Hello, world! wrote:

                            What is his screen name?

                            Well, there's the rub, eh? You might as well ask for a portrait of The Trickster! What is his screen name today?

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                            Vincent Reynolds
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                            Shog9 wrote:

                            What is his screen name today?

                            Hello, world!

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                              Hello, world! wrote:

                              What is his screen name?

                              Well, there's the rub, eh? You might as well ask for a portrait of The Trickster! What is his screen name today?

                              ---- Scripts i’ve known... CPhog 1.8.2 - make CP better. Forum Bookmark 0.2.5 - bookmark forum posts on Pensieve Print forum 0.1.2 - printer-friendly forums Expand all 1.0 - Expand all messages In-place Delete 1.0 - AJAX-style post delete Syntax 0.1 - Syntax highlighting for code blocks in the forums

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                              Allah On Acid
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                              Shog9 wrote:

                              What is his screen name today?

                              No, this is my screen name, and it has been for the last several months.

                              And we never know under which new alias you're going to rear your ugly head. - Tim Craig

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                              • L Lost User

                                It is sad but America is really like this http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0635,fiore,74276,9.html[^]

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                                Roger Wright
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                                Which America do you live in? Mine's not a bit like this.

                                "...a photo album is like Life, but flat and stuck to pages." - Shog9

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                                • D dennisd45

                                  ahz wrote:

                                  No so. Every single study of the election by groups and newspapers on both sides of the political spectrum and of all of the contested ballots in Florida concluded that Bush won, hands down.

                                  Untrue. The group of newspapers that did a recount found that in 6 of the 9 recount scenarios, Gore would have won. But none of that is actually relevant, since the Supreme court, aborted the election process and gave the presidency to Bush.

                                  No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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                                  kgaddy
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                                  dennisd45 wrote:

                                  Untrue. The group of newspapers that did a recount found that in 6 of the 9 recount scenarios, Gore would have won.

                                  You got a source for that?

                                  dennisd45 wrote:

                                  since the Supreme court, aborted the election process and gave the presidency to Bush.

                                  Not true, the surpreme court said the way gore wanted to cherry-pick recount counties would be unfair, they had to recount the whole state.

                                  My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                                  • K kgaddy

                                    dennisd45 wrote:

                                    Untrue. The group of newspapers that did a recount found that in 6 of the 9 recount scenarios, Gore would have won.

                                    You got a source for that?

                                    dennisd45 wrote:

                                    since the Supreme court, aborted the election process and gave the presidency to Bush.

                                    Not true, the surpreme court said the way gore wanted to cherry-pick recount counties would be unfair, they had to recount the whole state.

                                    My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                                    dennisd45
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                                    kgaddy wrote:

                                    You got a source for that?

                                    http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1095[^]

                                    kgaddy wrote:

                                    they had to recount the whole state.

                                    But a recount did not take place. As I said the Supreme court aborted the election process and gave the presidency to Bush.

                                    kgaddy wrote:

                                    the surpreme court said the way gore wanted to cherry-pick recount counties would be unfair

                                    Not exactly what they said, in any case a very flawed decision, that will likely cause many problems in the future. -- modified at 12:14 Tuesday 29th August, 2006

                                    No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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                                    • D dennisd45

                                      kgaddy wrote:

                                      You got a source for that?

                                      http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1095[^]

                                      kgaddy wrote:

                                      they had to recount the whole state.

                                      But a recount did not take place. As I said the Supreme court aborted the election process and gave the presidency to Bush.

                                      kgaddy wrote:

                                      the surpreme court said the way gore wanted to cherry-pick recount counties would be unfair

                                      Not exactly what they said, in any case a very flawed decision, that will likely cause many problems in the future. -- modified at 12:14 Tuesday 29th August, 2006

                                      No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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                                      Red Stateler
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                                      dennisd45 wrote:

                                      http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1095\[^\]

                                      Oh, please! "The study's key result: When the consortium tried to simulate a recount of all uncounted ballots statewide using six different standards for what constituted a vote" That's the key part. Democrats wanted to change the law! They wanted to use different methods of counting votes (other than the ones specified by law) and pick the method that elected Gore. That's why the Supreme Court stepped in. The Democratic Party wanted to illegally alter the methods used in order to put Gore into the presidency. Every single recount that actually followed the law showed Bush a clear winner.

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                                      • D dennisd45

                                        You do define. Unfortunately you do not observe. For you it is not a talent, but a curse.

                                        No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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                                        Red Stateler
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                                        That sounds like you were trying to make a Haiku.

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                                        • R Red Stateler

                                          dennisd45 wrote:

                                          http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1095\[^\]

                                          Oh, please! "The study's key result: When the consortium tried to simulate a recount of all uncounted ballots statewide using six different standards for what constituted a vote" That's the key part. Democrats wanted to change the law! They wanted to use different methods of counting votes (other than the ones specified by law) and pick the method that elected Gore. That's why the Supreme Court stepped in. The Democratic Party wanted to illegally alter the methods used in order to put Gore into the presidency. Every single recount that actually followed the law showed Bush a clear winner.

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                                          dennisd45
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                                          espeir wrote:

                                          Oh, please!

                                          Translation: This article makes statements that espeir disagrees with, therefore it must be leftist.

                                          espeir wrote:

                                          Democrats wanted to change the law!

                                          Fabrication on your part. Provide a source for this statement.

                                          espeir wrote:

                                          wanted to use different methods of counting votes (other than the ones specified by law)

                                          Really? How do you know that? Is there a nation or statewide legal standard? What is it? How does it differ from the methods chosen? What Democrats tried to do this?

                                          espeir wrote:

                                          That's why the Supreme Court stepped in.

                                          Untrue.

                                          espeir wrote:

                                          The Democratic Party wanted to illegally alter the methods used in order to put Gore into the presidency.

                                          Untrue. Gore ask for recounts in specific counties and that is allowed by Florida law.

                                          espeir wrote:

                                          Every single recount that actually followed the law showed Bush a clear winner.

                                          Untrue. The 3 methods that showed bush winning were partial recounts, limited to specific counties. The six that showed Gore winning were state-wide.

                                          No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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