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  • J J4amieC

    If you find her address, a non-intrusive bunch of flowers or something with a card saying "Sorry I hit you, I hope you are recovering well, best wishes" probably wouldnt offend ,and would probably make her happy that she didn't get hit by some asshole who doesnt care that he was careless. I hope YOU recover well, and that everything works out ok with insurance and such.

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      Lost User
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      Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

      What is the proper way to express my apologies?

      Settle out of court.

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        Judah Gabriel Himango
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        I sympathize; such a thing is very difficult and dangerous to do in this litigious society, though. I'm not sure what I'd do in such a situation.

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        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

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          Tom Archer
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          I had a similar situation and while I know that the "correct" answer is to let the lawyers fight it out, that just doesn't heem very honarable to me. I was totally at fault so I told the lady right there not to worry that I accepted full responsibility and would make it right. She got some estimates together and I paid to get her car fixed. I'm far from an angel, but there are just some times when you have to step back and say "I was wrong and this person shouldn't suffer for it". I think fatboy said it best in response to your request for the best way to express your apologies - settle out of court and then go your separate ways.

          Tom Archer (blog) Program Manager - Windows SDK Headers, Libraries & Tools MICROSOFT

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            Shog9 0
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            I've been there. I apologized. Probably cost me a fair bit in greater insurance costs, but oh well.

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            • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

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              Matt Newman
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              As nice of a gesture that may be, it is a legal admission of guilt. And once you "admit guilt" her insurance companies lawyers can open of the flood gates. As far as I am aware there is no statute of limitations in the US for her to sue you later so even afterwards may not be the best idea either. (When you work in retail you get to see the bad side of "insurance")

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              • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

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                realJSOP
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                See if she'll accept a cow as compensation.

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                  J4amieC
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                  Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                  this'd be an explicit admission of guilt

                  Yes, I tried to edit my post to idicate that the poster should not admit guilt before his insurance company had sorted out the details... editing of posts seems to be broken though!

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                    Michael P Butler wrote:

                    You don't want to end up being sued when all you want to do is apologise

                    That kind of thing only happen in the US though. The rest of the world isnt quite so litigious.

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                    Colin Angus Mackay
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                    J4amieC wrote:

                    That kind of thing only happen in the US though. The rest of the world isnt quite so litigious.

                    My insurance policy says quite explicitly (not that many people actually read their policy) that by admitting fault I invalidate the policy. I suppose because it then opens the door for people to sue the insurance company for the money.


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                      Colin Angus Mackay
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                      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                      though some of the other replies here indicate that this'd be an explicit admission of guilt.

                      I would say it is an implicit admission of guilt.


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                      • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

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                        Varindir Rajesh Mahdihar
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                        1. you shouldn't be discussing this on a public forum. 2. keep your mouth shut, and get a good lawyer.


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                        • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

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                          Bassam Abdul Baki
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                          If you have insurance, the insurance company would want not want you to apologize because that is an admission of guilt. For all you know, she was dozing too. Once you've talked to them and a lawyer, then apologize or ask about her health.


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                            Red Stateler
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                            Don't waste money on a lawyer. They all suck. Call your insurance company and ask if an apology is appropriate and what the implications would be. My understanding is that apologizing for an accident is not an admission of guilt. It used to be, but that turned out to be too lame even for our legal system. After all, you can tell someone that you're "sorry for their loss" when they lose a loved one, but that doesn't mean you killed them.


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                            • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

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                              David Crow
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                              Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                              What is the proper way to express my apologies?

                              Legally, don't communicate with her at all. Your intentions may be right, but that's not what matters.


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                                Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                What should I do?

                                Talk to a lawyer first. You don't want to end up being sued when all you want to do is apologise.

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                                Ray Cassick
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                                Liek it or not, ANY attempt you take to apologize can be considered an open admission of guilt and can open you up to TONS of lawsuits and judgements that you may not be able to fight latter on. Talk to a lawyer first.


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                                  caelum67
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                                  Interesting that all of the responces involved protecting yourself. Gone is the idea that you were indeed at fault and this woman is going to suffer for it - I would find out from the accident report and see if there is anything that you can do to help her.

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                                  • J J4amieC

                                    If you find her address, a non-intrusive bunch of flowers or something with a card saying "Sorry I hit you, I hope you are recovering well, best wishes" probably wouldnt offend ,and would probably make her happy that she didn't get hit by some asshole who doesnt care that he was careless. I hope YOU recover well, and that everything works out ok with insurance and such.

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                                    Joe Woodbury
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                                    DO NOT DO THIS! Do note that the phrase "Sorry I hit you" is a direct admission of guilt. (It could even be construed as an admission of premedidated action, which could get you in even bigger trouble.) First, wait until the case is settled.

                                    Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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