Pentium D vs. Core 2 Duo
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This is absurdly oversimplified; For Pentium D Intel basically just put 2 Pentium cores on the same die with a minimal interaction between the cores. In addition, Pentium D uses a lot of power which means it runs very hot. With Core 2 Duo (and Athlon 64 X2) the CPUs interact to some extent. This leads to better performance. Improved design for both reduced power requirements and thus they run cooler than Pentium D.
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makes sense. now another question. hopefully last(well, apart from whether I should even get either one of these). for the Pentium D, they are, say at the price range of about $350 CAD, you can get the ones running at about 3.6 GHz. For about the same price but Core 2 Duo, you get them running at about 2.6 - 2.8 GHz (roughly. can't exactly remember now.) Will the Core2Duo be better, since it sorta is the _true_ dual core processor, whilst the P.D. is just 2 of them stacked together? <self_rant> *siiiiiiiiiigh* that makes about a $400 processor, maybe a $200-250 Mobo if its the core2duo, and then, if i decide to finally get them, a pair of 19' LCD monitors(which I still dont know what to pick. they all have non-helpful descriptions and feautures lists and most are in crazy price ranges of about $450-550. I want something for ab out $300-350). that makes about a $1500 worth of spendings. Now my system better not catch on fire or bring an earthquake or aliens or flood or anything else. ive spent waaaayyy to much on it if i do these upgrades. </self_rant>
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makes sense. now another question. hopefully last(well, apart from whether I should even get either one of these). for the Pentium D, they are, say at the price range of about $350 CAD, you can get the ones running at about 3.6 GHz. For about the same price but Core 2 Duo, you get them running at about 2.6 - 2.8 GHz (roughly. can't exactly remember now.) Will the Core2Duo be better, since it sorta is the _true_ dual core processor, whilst the P.D. is just 2 of them stacked together? <self_rant> *siiiiiiiiiigh* that makes about a $400 processor, maybe a $200-250 Mobo if its the core2duo, and then, if i decide to finally get them, a pair of 19' LCD monitors(which I still dont know what to pick. they all have non-helpful descriptions and feautures lists and most are in crazy price ranges of about $450-550. I want something for ab out $300-350). that makes about a $1500 worth of spendings. Now my system better not catch on fire or bring an earthquake or aliens or flood or anything else. ive spent waaaayyy to much on it if i do these upgrades. </self_rant>
Don't know the answer. You may be able to get a bargain with Pentium D. You could look at it this way; in 1996 I spend $550 for a Pentium 133 and motherboard. I also spent $1100 on a 4GB SCSI hard drive.
Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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Umm, basicaly subject. Which ones are better and is there a point in getting either one of them.(I remember there was a similar topic here in the lounge not so long ago, but I failed in finding it).
Dual Core CPU Buyer's Guide[^]. :)
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Dual Core CPU Buyer's Guide[^]. :)
Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
Yeah, I know how to read the Insider too, thankyouverymuch. Hence my question. lolly. But seriously, I didnt get much from that article, 'cept the newererest Core2Duo Extreme Uberl44t Newer one is the best, but the cost is just cwaaazy. For me anyway. I'd never pay a $1000 for a CPU. Unless I was being paid 1000x times that a year. lol. Oh well, suppose one of the Core2Duo's somewhere in the $350 range (....argh. plus a $258 mobo :/) is what I'll take. Although...some time may pass until I finally decide to get it lol.
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Umm, basicaly subject. Which ones are better and is there a point in getting either one of them.(I remember there was a similar topic here in the lounge not so long ago, but I failed in finding it).
Intel Core versus AMD's K8 architecture: http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2748[^] Intel Core Duo (Yonah) Performance Preview - Part II: http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2648[^] AMD's dual core Opteron & Athlon 64 X2 - Server/Desktop Performance Preview: http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2397&p=4[^] Game Over? Core 2 Duo Knocks Out Athlon 64: http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/07/14/core2_duo_knocks_out_athlon_64/[^]
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Yeah, I know how to read the Insider too, thankyouverymuch. Hence my question. lolly. But seriously, I didnt get much from that article, 'cept the newererest Core2Duo Extreme Uberl44t Newer one is the best, but the cost is just cwaaazy. For me anyway. I'd never pay a $1000 for a CPU. Unless I was being paid 1000x times that a year. lol. Oh well, suppose one of the Core2Duo's somewhere in the $350 range (....argh. plus a $258 mobo :/) is what I'll take. Although...some time may pass until I finally decide to get it lol.
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Umm, basicaly subject. Which ones are better and is there a point in getting either one of them.(I remember there was a similar topic here in the lounge not so long ago, but I failed in finding it).
Core 2 Duo or Athlon64 X2 all the way, these days - and I'd prefer Core 2 Duo to Athlon64 at the momoent. Pentium 4 was built around a very loooong pipeline that allows clock speeds to be ramped up big time (just need to hope the pipeline doesn't stall, 'cause then you've got to fill that loooooong pipeline from scratch again). Unfortunately, they'd not quite got the thermal/power predictions right, leaving us with processors needing the same cooling as a nuclear power station (yes, I'm being sarcastic...). Pentium M (and thus Core Duo and Core 2 Duo - there's a rough evolution there, IIUC) and Athlon64 are built around a shorter pipeline, which means higher clock speeds can be more difficult to achieve. However, they're designed to do more in each clock cycle, which means they can do the same work with a much lower clock speed. Anyway, to sum up, a 1.8-2GHz Core 2 Duo kicks sand in the face of a 3+GHz Pentium D speed-wise, while using less than half the power. This page[^] (especially this sub-page [^]) may be of use in comparing specific models.
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Core 2 Duo or Athlon64 X2 all the way, these days - and I'd prefer Core 2 Duo to Athlon64 at the momoent. Pentium 4 was built around a very loooong pipeline that allows clock speeds to be ramped up big time (just need to hope the pipeline doesn't stall, 'cause then you've got to fill that loooooong pipeline from scratch again). Unfortunately, they'd not quite got the thermal/power predictions right, leaving us with processors needing the same cooling as a nuclear power station (yes, I'm being sarcastic...). Pentium M (and thus Core Duo and Core 2 Duo - there's a rough evolution there, IIUC) and Athlon64 are built around a shorter pipeline, which means higher clock speeds can be more difficult to achieve. However, they're designed to do more in each clock cycle, which means they can do the same work with a much lower clock speed. Anyway, to sum up, a 1.8-2GHz Core 2 Duo kicks sand in the face of a 3+GHz Pentium D speed-wise, while using less than half the power. This page[^] (especially this sub-page [^]) may be of use in comparing specific models.
couldnt find the comparison at THG. but then again, didnt search much there. oh well. I suppose the Intel Core^ 2 Duo E6600 is what suits me. I dunno if I am gonna get anything though. I've though about it, and, well, a $350~ CPU plus a $250~ mobo that supports it and has features that I need....an expensive combination for a CPU upgrade if you ask me. I suppose I'll wait a bit and see what happens. Thanks for the replies though, guys. ^ keep typing coDe instead of coRe. lolly
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Yeah, I know how to read the Insider too, thankyouverymuch. Hence my question. lolly. But seriously, I didnt get much from that article, 'cept the newererest Core2Duo Extreme Uberl44t Newer one is the best, but the cost is just cwaaazy. For me anyway. I'd never pay a $1000 for a CPU. Unless I was being paid 1000x times that a year. lol. Oh well, suppose one of the Core2Duo's somewhere in the $350 range (....argh. plus a $258 mobo :/) is what I'll take. Although...some time may pass until I finally decide to get it lol.
Fair enough. From your OP I couldn't tell how much you knew about the differences between them, hence my post. For what it's worth, we've plumped for the Athlon X2 4600+, which seems to offer a good compromise between specification and cost (as the article points out, Athlon X2 5000s are kinda hard to get right now - we have personal experience of this). Finally, after the experiences I've had with P4s I wouldn't touch a Pentium D with a bargepole, and I'll wait until I've had hands on a Core2Duo before deciding whether I'm ready to trust Intel again with a desktop CPU.
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Umm, basicaly subject. Which ones are better and is there a point in getting either one of them.(I remember there was a similar topic here in the lounge not so long ago, but I failed in finding it).
There's no comparison unless cost is the only factor in your decision. Core 2 Duo is faster, runs cooler and uses less power. Also Intel phasing out Pentium D in favor of the Core line of processors. So if you are going to buy Intel, Core 2 Duo is the right choice. That being said, if you are looking for a choice, the choice really should be between Core 2 Duo and Athlon X2. Core 2 Duo is still the winner in terms of performance but Athlon is more competative than Pentium D. For a nice comparison check out Anandtech's review of the Core 2 Duo. I also read that you were put off by the price of the motherboards for Core 2 Duo. Not all motherboards are that expensive. Check out the ASRock line of motherboards for Core 2 Duo. Most (all?) are under $100. If you really need an upgrade and are concerned about price I would by one of the low end Core 2 Duo's and an ASRock motherboard. I recently purchased one of each and it performs excellent. VS2005 runs faster and everything is more responsive due to the dual CPU cores. -Kent
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There's no comparison unless cost is the only factor in your decision. Core 2 Duo is faster, runs cooler and uses less power. Also Intel phasing out Pentium D in favor of the Core line of processors. So if you are going to buy Intel, Core 2 Duo is the right choice. That being said, if you are looking for a choice, the choice really should be between Core 2 Duo and Athlon X2. Core 2 Duo is still the winner in terms of performance but Athlon is more competative than Pentium D. For a nice comparison check out Anandtech's review of the Core 2 Duo. I also read that you were put off by the price of the motherboards for Core 2 Duo. Not all motherboards are that expensive. Check out the ASRock line of motherboards for Core 2 Duo. Most (all?) are under $100. If you really need an upgrade and are concerned about price I would by one of the low end Core 2 Duo's and an ASRock motherboard. I recently purchased one of each and it performs excellent. VS2005 runs faster and everything is more responsive due to the dual CPU cores. -Kent
Hi, I want to buy a Core 2 Duo E6600 but I still haven't decided which motherboard. At this moment, my first option is an Asus P5B but I'd like to know how does it work the AsRock. Which one do you have? Thanks in advance, Marc Soleda.
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Hi, I want to buy a Core 2 Duo E6600 but I still haven't decided which motherboard. At this moment, my first option is an Asus P5B but I'd like to know how does it work the AsRock. Which one do you have? Thanks in advance, Marc Soleda.
... she said you are the perfect stranger she said baby let's keep it like this... Dire Straits
I have the ASRock 775Dual-VSTA motherboard. It uses the VIA chipset which causes some people concern but I've been using AMD motherboards with VIA chipsets for years and have had no complaints. I bought it because I was upgrading from a Athlon 64 3200 and I didn't want to have to replace my AGP video card and my DDR-400 RAM. This motherboard is the only one I know of that supports both AGP & PCI-E video cards and DDR & DDR2 RAM. This allowed me to upgrade to Core 2 Duo now, saving the video card and RAM upgrades for later. -Kent
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I have the ASRock 775Dual-VSTA motherboard. It uses the VIA chipset which causes some people concern but I've been using AMD motherboards with VIA chipsets for years and have had no complaints. I bought it because I was upgrading from a Athlon 64 3200 and I didn't want to have to replace my AGP video card and my DDR-400 RAM. This motherboard is the only one I know of that supports both AGP & PCI-E video cards and DDR & DDR2 RAM. This allowed me to upgrade to Core 2 Duo now, saving the video card and RAM upgrades for later. -Kent
At last I've bough the ASus P5B and the Core 2 Duo E6600 with 2 Gigs RAM. I'm desiring to have it in my hands !!!!
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