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  • N Nader Elshehabi

    Hello After all the posts I've read the last two days about terrorism and Islam. I have 5 questions: I'm a moderate bearded muslim who do not endorse terrorism -as many other muslims-. If I ever travel to a westren country to work/study: 1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?

    Regards:rose:

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    • N Nader Elshehabi

      Hello After all the posts I've read the last two days about terrorism and Islam. I have 5 questions: I'm a moderate bearded muslim who do not endorse terrorism -as many other muslims-. If I ever travel to a westren country to work/study: 1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?

      Regards:rose:

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      Nader Elshehabi wrote:

      1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour?

      Well friendship only comes once you know a person for a length of time, but I'd have no problem with the other two.

      Nader Elshehabi wrote:

      2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs?

      Only if you knew about it before hand and didn't do anything to stop it

      Nader Elshehabi wrote:

      Would you give me a chance to express my point of view?

      Of course, everybody is entitled to their views - just don't ram your beliefs down my throat as if they are the one true way (that goes for all religious people)

      Nader Elshehabi wrote:

      Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-?

      No. But then I don't trust anybody.

      Nader Elshehabi wrote:

      5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?

      No. I'd wonder why an intelligent person in the 21st century could still believe in that kind of stuff but then again, I'd say the same about most other religions.

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      • N Nader Elshehabi

        Hello After all the posts I've read the last two days about terrorism and Islam. I have 5 questions: I'm a moderate bearded muslim who do not endorse terrorism -as many other muslims-. If I ever travel to a westren country to work/study: 1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?

        Regards:rose:

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        1 - Depends on how cool you are. :cool: 2 - If not proven ?? Of course not. 3 - If you haven't done anything wrong, you wouldn't have to do that. 4 - Of course, to a certain limit. I mean, if my wife and I stand on a very high bridge and she says: "Jump, trust me it's ok." I'd probably be a bit _dis_trusting. 5 - No, you can believe anything you want as long as you don't enforce it to others. Essentially it's not Moslims, Christians, Jews, ... it's about being an extremist or a moderate guy in the things you do/believe in.

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        • N Nader Elshehabi

          Hello After all the posts I've read the last two days about terrorism and Islam. I have 5 questions: I'm a moderate bearded muslim who do not endorse terrorism -as many other muslims-. If I ever travel to a westren country to work/study: 1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?

          Regards:rose:

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          1. Yes. 2. Yes. 3. Definitely! 4. Trust is earned, as with anyone. :) 5. Certainly not!

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          • B Bassam Abdul Baki

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            How true. There can only be one. :)


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            Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

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              Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

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              Clever :)

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              • N Nader Elshehabi

                Hello After all the posts I've read the last two days about terrorism and Islam. I have 5 questions: I'm a moderate bearded muslim who do not endorse terrorism -as many other muslims-. If I ever travel to a westren country to work/study: 1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?

                Regards:rose:

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                Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?

                1. Well, yes. You wouldn't be the first 2. No. I would blame those terrorists. But perhaps you and me would talk about that, without blaming each other (I hope so). :) 3. Of course. 4. Of course. 5. No. I don't like the Islam very much, but that has nothing to do, with the people who live their life in the sense of the Koran. No one as to accept my religion as the true one - and I won't accept other religions as the true one. I'm Christian, but I think everybody who don't oppress or encumber life of others, has the right to live his own life in the way he want. So I turn the question around, would you accept my culture (as the culture of my country) and my religion (as being my religion not yours), when come into my country? If you do so, I see no problem. :rose: Regards, Ingo -- modified at 5:14 Friday 8th September, 2006

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                • I Ingo

                  Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                  1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?

                  1. Well, yes. You wouldn't be the first 2. No. I would blame those terrorists. But perhaps you and me would talk about that, without blaming each other (I hope so). :) 3. Of course. 4. Of course. 5. No. I don't like the Islam very much, but that has nothing to do, with the people who live their life in the sense of the Koran. No one as to accept my religion as the true one - and I won't accept other religions as the true one. I'm Christian, but I think everybody who don't oppress or encumber life of others, has the right to live his own life in the way he want. So I turn the question around, would you accept my culture (as the culture of my country) and my religion (as being my religion not yours), when come into my country? If you do so, I see no problem. :rose: Regards, Ingo -- modified at 5:14 Friday 8th September, 2006

                  ------------------------------ PROST Roleplaying Game War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left. "Would you like us to drop a bomb on you too? We have 10,000 of them!" - espeir "Perhaps we should lend them a nuke or two." - espeir

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                  Nader Elshehabi
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                  Hello Already I have 4 christian friends at college. We all attend our lectures with no problems at all. Thanks for your reply Ingo.

                  Regards:rose:

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                  • N Nader Elshehabi

                    Hello After all the posts I've read the last two days about terrorism and Islam. I have 5 questions: I'm a moderate bearded muslim who do not endorse terrorism -as many other muslims-. If I ever travel to a westren country to work/study: 1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?

                    Regards:rose:

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                    As a ex-beardie I don't understand the problem some people have with beards. They keep your face warm, they're good to stroke while you're thinking, and they act as food stores for when you feel peckish. :)

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                    • H hairy_hats

                      As a ex-beardie I don't understand the problem some people have with beards. They keep your face warm, they're good to stroke while you're thinking, and they act as food stores for when you feel peckish. :)

                      Asynes yw brassa ages kwilkynyow.

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                      Steve_Harris wrote:

                      they're good to stroke while you're thinking, and they act as food stores for when you feel peckish.

                      :laugh: :laugh:

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                      • N Nader Elshehabi

                        Hello After all the posts I've read the last two days about terrorism and Islam. I have 5 questions: I'm a moderate bearded muslim who do not endorse terrorism -as many other muslims-. If I ever travel to a westren country to work/study: 1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?

                        Regards:rose:

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                        Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                        Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs?

                        I would blame you if did not see it as a manifestation of your culture and religion. Terrorism caused by Islamic extremists is the reponsibility of all Muslims, just as the terror of Fascism was the responsibility of all westerners.

                        Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                        Would you hate me for being a muslim?

                        I would hate you for being a cowardly Muslim if you accepted Islamic terrorism as just something done by a "few" "evil" Muslims. As a Muslim stopping Islamic terrorism should be your highest priority.

                        Thank God for disproportional force.

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                        • N Nader Elshehabi

                          Hello After all the posts I've read the last two days about terrorism and Islam. I have 5 questions: I'm a moderate bearded muslim who do not endorse terrorism -as many other muslims-. If I ever travel to a westren country to work/study: 1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?

                          Regards:rose:

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                          hi, i think there are not accepted you(not you in this case musliman) because they thinks musliman/pak/india peoples r terrists

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                          • N Nader Elshehabi

                            Hello After all the posts I've read the last two days about terrorism and Islam. I have 5 questions: I'm a moderate bearded muslim who do not endorse terrorism -as many other muslims-. If I ever travel to a westren country to work/study: 1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?

                            Regards:rose:

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                            Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                            1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour?

                            If you think Christians are unclean, and wouldnt let them in your house then you can fuck off. If you think beer drinking pagans are unclean then you can also fuck off. Basically, if you keep your religion in the box, and dont let it negatively affect the way you live your life in the greater world, you are OK. If not then dont come to my country.

                            Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                            2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs?

                            No. But you would have to condemn the act.

                            Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                            Would you give me a chance to express my point of view?

                            Yes, that is what the civilised west is all about.

                            Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                            Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-?

                            Of course.

                            Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                            Would you hate me for being a muslim?

                            Of course not. If you hated Jews or christians though, then I would hate you for being an ignorant prick. -- modified at 8:03 Friday 8th September, 2006

                            Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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                            • N Nader Elshehabi

                              Hello After all the posts I've read the last two days about terrorism and Islam. I have 5 questions: I'm a moderate bearded muslim who do not endorse terrorism -as many other muslims-. If I ever travel to a westren country to work/study: 1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?

                              Regards:rose:

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                              I am from India, but since I live in a Western country, I'll answer you :-)

                              Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                              1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour?

                              Yep, if I got that opportunity, then yes.

                              Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                              2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs?

                              Nope.

                              Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                              3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view?

                              Yes, though I'd argue with you if you tried to defend their actions (which I doubt you will).

                              Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                              4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-?

                              Yes, I will.

                              Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                              5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?

                              Never. Note : I am an atheist (not a Hindu like most Indians are).

                              Regards, Nish


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                              • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                Ed Gadziemski wrote:

                                there are no gods

                                How true. There can only be one. :)


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                                Nish Nishant
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                                Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                                There can only be one.

                                If there can be one, there's an equal chance for there being 2, 3, or even 15.

                                Regards, Nish


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                                • P premkamalg

                                  hi, i think there are not accepted you(not you in this case musliman) because they thinks musliman/pak/india peoples r terrists

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                                  premkamalg wrote:

                                  hi, i think there are not accepted you(not you in this case musliman) because they thinks musliman/pak/india peoples r terrists

                                  :wtf:

                                  Regards, Nish


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                                  • N Nish Nishant

                                    Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                                    There can only be one.

                                    If there can be one, there's an equal chance for there being 2, 3, or even 15.

                                    Regards, Nish


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                                    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                    chance

                                    except that chance has nothing to do with it.

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                                      Dont you think you are asking from wrong people? You better send this questionaire to concerned Embassy.:rolleyes:

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                                      go away pig.

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                                        Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                                        1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour?

                                        If you think Christians are unclean, and wouldnt let them in your house then you can fuck off. If you think beer drinking pagans are unclean then you can also fuck off. Basically, if you keep your religion in the box, and dont let it negatively affect the way you live your life in the greater world, you are OK. If not then dont come to my country.

                                        Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                                        2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs?

                                        No. But you would have to condemn the act.

                                        Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                                        Would you give me a chance to express my point of view?

                                        Yes, that is what the civilised west is all about.

                                        Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                                        Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-?

                                        Of course.

                                        Nader Elshehabi wrote:

                                        Would you hate me for being a muslim?

                                        Of course not. If you hated Jews or christians though, then I would hate you for being an ignorant prick. -- modified at 8:03 Friday 8th September, 2006

                                        Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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                                        rather blunt, but well put. 5

                                        Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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                                          rather blunt, but well put. 5

                                          Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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                                          ahz wrote:

                                          rather blunt,

                                          What, me, blunt? No, never ;)

                                          Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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