Would you accepting me?
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Hello After all the posts I've read the last two days about terrorism and Islam. I have 5 questions: I'm a moderate bearded muslim who do not endorse terrorism -as many other muslims-. If I ever travel to a westren country to work/study: 1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?
Regards:rose:
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?
1. Well, yes. You wouldn't be the first 2. No. I would blame those terrorists. But perhaps you and me would talk about that, without blaming each other (I hope so). :) 3. Of course. 4. Of course. 5. No. I don't like the Islam very much, but that has nothing to do, with the people who live their life in the sense of the Koran. No one as to accept my religion as the true one - and I won't accept other religions as the true one. I'm Christian, but I think everybody who don't oppress or encumber life of others, has the right to live his own life in the way he want. So I turn the question around, would you accept my culture (as the culture of my country) and my religion (as being my religion not yours), when come into my country? If you do so, I see no problem. :rose: Regards, Ingo -- modified at 5:14 Friday 8th September, 2006
------------------------------ PROST Roleplaying Game War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left. "Would you like us to drop a bomb on you too? We have 10,000 of them!" - espeir "Perhaps we should lend them a nuke or two." - espeir
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Nader Elshehabi wrote:
1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?
1. Well, yes. You wouldn't be the first 2. No. I would blame those terrorists. But perhaps you and me would talk about that, without blaming each other (I hope so). :) 3. Of course. 4. Of course. 5. No. I don't like the Islam very much, but that has nothing to do, with the people who live their life in the sense of the Koran. No one as to accept my religion as the true one - and I won't accept other religions as the true one. I'm Christian, but I think everybody who don't oppress or encumber life of others, has the right to live his own life in the way he want. So I turn the question around, would you accept my culture (as the culture of my country) and my religion (as being my religion not yours), when come into my country? If you do so, I see no problem. :rose: Regards, Ingo -- modified at 5:14 Friday 8th September, 2006
------------------------------ PROST Roleplaying Game War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left. "Would you like us to drop a bomb on you too? We have 10,000 of them!" - espeir "Perhaps we should lend them a nuke or two." - espeir
Hello Already I have 4 christian friends at college. We all attend our lectures with no problems at all. Thanks for your reply Ingo.
Regards:rose:
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Hello After all the posts I've read the last two days about terrorism and Islam. I have 5 questions: I'm a moderate bearded muslim who do not endorse terrorism -as many other muslims-. If I ever travel to a westren country to work/study: 1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?
Regards:rose:
As a ex-beardie I don't understand the problem some people have with beards. They keep your face warm, they're good to stroke while you're thinking, and they act as food stores for when you feel peckish. :)
Asynes yw brassa ages kwilkynyow.
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As a ex-beardie I don't understand the problem some people have with beards. They keep your face warm, they're good to stroke while you're thinking, and they act as food stores for when you feel peckish. :)
Asynes yw brassa ages kwilkynyow.
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Hello After all the posts I've read the last two days about terrorism and Islam. I have 5 questions: I'm a moderate bearded muslim who do not endorse terrorism -as many other muslims-. If I ever travel to a westren country to work/study: 1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?
Regards:rose:
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs?
I would blame you if did not see it as a manifestation of your culture and religion. Terrorism caused by Islamic extremists is the reponsibility of all Muslims, just as the terror of Fascism was the responsibility of all westerners.
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
Would you hate me for being a muslim?
I would hate you for being a cowardly Muslim if you accepted Islamic terrorism as just something done by a "few" "evil" Muslims. As a Muslim stopping Islamic terrorism should be your highest priority.
Thank God for disproportional force.
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Hello After all the posts I've read the last two days about terrorism and Islam. I have 5 questions: I'm a moderate bearded muslim who do not endorse terrorism -as many other muslims-. If I ever travel to a westren country to work/study: 1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?
Regards:rose:
hi, i think there are not accepted you(not you in this case musliman) because they thinks musliman/pak/india peoples r terrists
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Hello After all the posts I've read the last two days about terrorism and Islam. I have 5 questions: I'm a moderate bearded muslim who do not endorse terrorism -as many other muslims-. If I ever travel to a westren country to work/study: 1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?
Regards:rose:
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour?
If you think Christians are unclean, and wouldnt let them in your house then you can fuck off. If you think beer drinking pagans are unclean then you can also fuck off. Basically, if you keep your religion in the box, and dont let it negatively affect the way you live your life in the greater world, you are OK. If not then dont come to my country.
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs?
No. But you would have to condemn the act.
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
Would you give me a chance to express my point of view?
Yes, that is what the civilised west is all about.
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-?
Of course.
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
Would you hate me for being a muslim?
Of course not. If you hated Jews or christians though, then I would hate you for being an ignorant prick. -- modified at 8:03 Friday 8th September, 2006
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
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Hello After all the posts I've read the last two days about terrorism and Islam. I have 5 questions: I'm a moderate bearded muslim who do not endorse terrorism -as many other muslims-. If I ever travel to a westren country to work/study: 1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?
Regards:rose:
I am from India, but since I live in a Western country, I'll answer you :-)
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour?
Yep, if I got that opportunity, then yes.
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs?
Nope.
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view?
Yes, though I'd argue with you if you tried to defend their actions (which I doubt you will).
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-?
Yes, I will.
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?
Never. Note : I am an atheist (not a Hindu like most Indians are).
Regards, Nish
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
There can only be one.
If there can be one, there's an equal chance for there being 2, 3, or even 15.
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hi, i think there are not accepted you(not you in this case musliman) because they thinks musliman/pak/india peoples r terrists
premkamalg wrote:
hi, i think there are not accepted you(not you in this case musliman) because they thinks musliman/pak/india peoples r terrists
:wtf:
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
There can only be one.
If there can be one, there's an equal chance for there being 2, 3, or even 15.
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
chance
except that chance has nothing to do with it.
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
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Dont you think you are asking from wrong people? You better send this questionaire to concerned Embassy.:rolleyes:
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go away pig.
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
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Nader Elshehabi wrote:
1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour?
If you think Christians are unclean, and wouldnt let them in your house then you can fuck off. If you think beer drinking pagans are unclean then you can also fuck off. Basically, if you keep your religion in the box, and dont let it negatively affect the way you live your life in the greater world, you are OK. If not then dont come to my country.
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs?
No. But you would have to condemn the act.
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
Would you give me a chance to express my point of view?
Yes, that is what the civilised west is all about.
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-?
Of course.
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
Would you hate me for being a muslim?
Of course not. If you hated Jews or christians though, then I would hate you for being an ignorant prick. -- modified at 8:03 Friday 8th September, 2006
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
rather blunt, but well put. 5
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
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rather blunt, but well put. 5
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
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Nader Elshehabi wrote:
1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour?
If you think Christians are unclean, and wouldnt let them in your house then you can fuck off. If you think beer drinking pagans are unclean then you can also fuck off. Basically, if you keep your religion in the box, and dont let it negatively affect the way you live your life in the greater world, you are OK. If not then dont come to my country.
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs?
No. But you would have to condemn the act.
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
Would you give me a chance to express my point of view?
Yes, that is what the civilised west is all about.
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-?
Of course.
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
Would you hate me for being a muslim?
Of course not. If you hated Jews or christians though, then I would hate you for being an ignorant prick. -- modified at 8:03 Friday 8th September, 2006
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
crikey, that was well said.
Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors. Vincent Reynolds: My opposition is as enlightened as your support, jackass. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
chance
except that chance has nothing to do with it.
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
ahz wrote:
except that chance has nothing to do with it.
What do you mean?
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Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
There can only be one.
If there can be one, there's an equal chance for there being 2, 3, or even 15.
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)Not true. If there is more than one god, then none of these gods is all-powerful and, therefore, there is a God higher up than all of them. So in actuality, there can only be one God or none. I believe in one.
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Hello After all the posts I've read the last two days about terrorism and Islam. I have 5 questions: I'm a moderate bearded muslim who do not endorse terrorism -as many other muslims-. If I ever travel to a westren country to work/study: 1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour? 2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs? 3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view? 4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-? 5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?
Regards:rose:
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
Would you give me a chance to express my point of view?
Irregardless of anything else, if your point of view even slightly endorses (or apologizes) extremism or terrorism, you automatically become a target for me.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Not true. If there is more than one god, then none of these gods is all-powerful and, therefore, there is a God higher up than all of them. So in actuality, there can only be one God or none. I believe in one.
"In this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics!" - Homer Simpson Web - Blog - RSS - Math - LinkedIn
Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
Not true. If there is more than one god, then none of these gods is all-powerful and, therefore, there is a God higher up than all of them.
That's just your belief. There's no given rule that the top-most god-like entity has to be singular - it can be a dual-entity and the dual-entity can be all-powerful with nothing above it.
Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:
So in actuality, there can only be one God or none. I believe in one.
Bassam, for someone who I believe is a very rational person, you are now talking pretty much like a religious fanatic. You say "there can only be" as if that's fact, and then follow it up with "I believe in one". That's what they all say - Christians, Hindus, Muslims etc.
Regards, Nish
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I am from India, but since I live in a Western country, I'll answer you :-)
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
1- Would you accept me as a friend/colleague/neighbour?
Yep, if I got that opportunity, then yes.
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
2- Would you blame me if a terrorist action -committed by a muslim- occurs?
Nope.
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
3- Would you give me a chance to express my point of view?
Yes, though I'd argue with you if you tried to defend their actions (which I doubt you will).
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
4- Would you trust me -if I'm trustworthy of course-?
Yes, I will.
Nader Elshehabi wrote:
5- Would you hate me for being a muslim?
Never. Note : I am an atheist (not a Hindu like most Indians are).
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Note : I am an atheist (not a Hindu like most Indians are).
I thought you could be an Atheist Hindu? There was a long tradition of Atheism in India, with groups that sound very much like the Greek epicurists.
Ryan
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