Let's get people who see things from their own perspective.
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Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
So what your saying is that if there are perspectives out there that you believe threaten you then you'll bnlow them up?
Wouldn't you? If you're walking home from the theater with your wife in a dark alley way, and someone holding the perspective that rape is kind of an OK thing to do jumps out from the shadows with a knife, and you happen to have superior firepower in the form of a handgun...Will you accept his perspective and offer him your wife?
Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
Are there any other ways of dealing with such perspectives, or are missiles the only answer?
We deal in differing perspectives all the time without missles. Look at China or North Korea, for example. However, Islamofascism's perspective is particularly violent and aggresive, making missles warranted.
Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
Do you feel that launching missiles at things you feel threatened by can sometimes be counter productive?
Sure. For example if we launch missles at France, I can't have any more Dom Perignon. So in the interest of protecting Dom, we don't bomb France.
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
espeir wrote:
Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote: So what your saying is that if there are perspectives out there that you believe threaten you then you'll bnlow them up? Wouldn't you? If you're walking home from the theater with your wife in a dark alley way, and someone holding the perspective that rape is kind of an OK thing to do jumps out from the shadows with a knife, and you happen to have superior firepower in the form of a handgun...Will you accept his perspective and offer him your wife?
So you are then.
espeir wrote:
We deal in differing perspectives all the time without missles. Look at China or North Korea, for example.
Oh you're not. Sounds to me that you're just a woolly liberal trying to act like a hard man.
espeir wrote:
However, Islamofascism's perspective is particularly violent and aggresive, making missles warranted.
How many missiles has your country fired at Islamofascism recently? Just how do you bomb a political dogma?
Farmer Giles was fat and enjoyed a slow, comfortable life. Then one day a giant blundered on to his land. Farmer Giles managed to scare him away and instantly became a hero. So it was natural that when the dragon Chrysophylax visited the area, it was Farmer Giles who was to do battle with it.
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Yeah but I'm finding Rob a little hard to believe. It's a bit like a poster who replies to a post to say how boring it is. They are quite obviously full of sh$te. Hell, this is crap, let's talk about Muslims.
Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
sh$te.
that would be shiite. I propose this as the new, improved spelling for SHIT.
Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
crap, let's talk about Muslims
you're repeating yourself.
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
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espeir wrote:
Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote: So what your saying is that if there are perspectives out there that you believe threaten you then you'll bnlow them up? Wouldn't you? If you're walking home from the theater with your wife in a dark alley way, and someone holding the perspective that rape is kind of an OK thing to do jumps out from the shadows with a knife, and you happen to have superior firepower in the form of a handgun...Will you accept his perspective and offer him your wife?
So you are then.
espeir wrote:
We deal in differing perspectives all the time without missles. Look at China or North Korea, for example.
Oh you're not. Sounds to me that you're just a woolly liberal trying to act like a hard man.
espeir wrote:
However, Islamofascism's perspective is particularly violent and aggresive, making missles warranted.
How many missiles has your country fired at Islamofascism recently? Just how do you bomb a political dogma?
Farmer Giles was fat and enjoyed a slow, comfortable life. Then one day a giant blundered on to his land. Farmer Giles managed to scare him away and instantly became a hero. So it was natural that when the dragon Chrysophylax visited the area, it was Farmer Giles who was to do battle with it.
Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
Just how do you bomb a political dogma?
You wipe from the face of the earth everyone who ascribes to such a dogma.
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
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I buy my animal cookies in clear plastic bags so i can see what i am getting when i reach in so i dont accidentally get a camel that might have a terrorist on it. :omg:
I propose a new spelling for your obviously made-up name: Mi Kunt
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
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There's nothing worse than someone who sees things from their own perspective. Why can't they see things from mine. I'm intelligent and went to a proper school, what's the problem? Looking at things in different ways from different angles and weighing them up in a nbalanced way is the sort of liberal and downright dangerous bullshit that lead to the US national strategic interest being compromised. Next time one of thise liberal commie muslim mother f&&&Ckers looks at something frolm his own god damned perspective he's going to get a big fat missile comming straight at his face from the perspective of the good ole YOU ESS OF AY. God mother F&^%$king damn it felt good to get that off of my chest!
Farmer Giles was fat and enjoyed a slow, comfortable life. Then one day a giant blundered on to his land. Farmer Giles managed to scare him away and instantly became a hero. So it was natural that when the dragon Chrysophylax visited the area, it was Farmer Giles who was to do battle with it.
I have no clue what you're talking about, but congrats on the double-spaced thread... :~
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espeir wrote:
Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote: So what your saying is that if there are perspectives out there that you believe threaten you then you'll bnlow them up? Wouldn't you? If you're walking home from the theater with your wife in a dark alley way, and someone holding the perspective that rape is kind of an OK thing to do jumps out from the shadows with a knife, and you happen to have superior firepower in the form of a handgun...Will you accept his perspective and offer him your wife?
So you are then.
espeir wrote:
We deal in differing perspectives all the time without missles. Look at China or North Korea, for example.
Oh you're not. Sounds to me that you're just a woolly liberal trying to act like a hard man.
espeir wrote:
However, Islamofascism's perspective is particularly violent and aggresive, making missles warranted.
How many missiles has your country fired at Islamofascism recently? Just how do you bomb a political dogma?
Farmer Giles was fat and enjoyed a slow, comfortable life. Then one day a giant blundered on to his land. Farmer Giles managed to scare him away and instantly became a hero. So it was natural that when the dragon Chrysophylax visited the area, it was Farmer Giles who was to do battle with it.
Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
So you are then.
Am I to take that to mean that you would allow the rapist to rape your wife, even though you had the means to stop him?
Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
Just how do you bomb a political dogma?
I notice the trend among leftists to label the War on Terror an unwinnable war against a dogma, or a tactic or whatever. In fact, we are at war with several tangible groups. All of which share the desire to destroy western civilization. WWII was a battle against Naziism, so in effect it too was a battle against a dogma.
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
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Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
There's nothing worse than someone who sees things from their own perspective. Why can't they see things from mine. I'm intelligent and went to a proper school, what's the problem?
The problem is that you really don't want others to see things from your own perspective. You want others to accept your own perspective as valid. I'm perfectly capable of seeing things from other perspectives. However, when that other perspective contradicts my own desires, then I will reject it. If that perspective directly threatens the security of my country, then I will support the launching of big fat misslies to protect my perspective.
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
espeir wrote:
I'm perfectly capable of seeing things from other perspectives. However, when that other perspective contradicts my own desires, then I will reject it.
And one of your desires is for all perspectives other than your own to be wrong, so...
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Very good, I gave you a five. I'm afraid you'll have to keep scrolling though. BTW how do you reply to messages without opening them up?
I'd tell you, but first you have to change your name to a single line. ;P
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espeir wrote:
I'm perfectly capable of seeing things from other perspectives. However, when that other perspective contradicts my own desires, then I will reject it.
And one of your desires is for all perspectives other than your own to be wrong, so...
Vincent Reynolds wrote:
And one of your desires is for all perspectives other than your own to be wrong, so...
I obviously consider all perspectives that differ from my own to be wrong. If I thought a contrary perspective to be right, then I would adopt it as my own. That's not to say that people cannot hold contrary perspectives, because I couldn't care less...Until those perspectives become dangerously maligned to my own. Your frustration in my unwillingness to accept your clearly flawed perspective as "right" is really pretty funny to watch.
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
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Very good, I gave you a five. I'm afraid you'll have to keep scrolling though. BTW how do you reply to messages without opening them up?
Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
I'm afraid you'll have to keep scrolling though.
Why? I thought his request was very polite. Besides it would be very considerate of you to comply, don't you think?
"Alot of the people on this forum are incredibly stupid, thinking that the internet is real"
Score: 1.0 in the Soap Boxled mike
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Vincent Reynolds wrote:
And one of your desires is for all perspectives other than your own to be wrong, so...
I obviously consider all perspectives that differ from my own to be wrong. If I thought a contrary perspective to be right, then I would adopt it as my own. That's not to say that people cannot hold contrary perspectives, because I couldn't care less...Until those perspectives become dangerously maligned to my own. Your frustration in my unwillingness to accept your clearly flawed perspective as "right" is really pretty funny to watch.
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
espeir wrote:
Your frustration in my unwillingness to accept your clearly flawed perspective as "right" is really pretty funny to watch.
Actually, e, as I've stated many times, I don't give a rat's ass whether or not you think my perspective -- or any perspective, for that matter -- is "right", nor would I ever expect you to. Given your inability to distinguish between "right" and "valid" in subjective matters, or to even acknowledge that some matters are subjective, as well as your inability to argue your points without resorting to misdirection, deliberate misinterpretation, and sophistry, I pity the person who holds any hope that they could, with anything short of a power-drill and a turkey baster, inject anything new into that hermetically sealed little mind of yours.
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Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
So you are then.
Am I to take that to mean that you would allow the rapist to rape your wife, even though you had the means to stop him?
Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
Just how do you bomb a political dogma?
I notice the trend among leftists to label the War on Terror an unwinnable war against a dogma, or a tactic or whatever. In fact, we are at war with several tangible groups. All of which share the desire to destroy western civilization. WWII was a battle against Naziism, so in effect it too was a battle against a dogma.
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
espeir wrote:
Am I to take that to mean that you would allow the rapist to rape your wife, even though you had the means to stop him?
I really don't see how you could construct such a meaning from my sentence.
espeir wrote:
I notice the trend among leftists to label the War on Terror an unwinnable war against a dogma,
What makes you think I'm left wing? I was taking issue with youre statement that you wanted to launch missiles at people withy a particular perspective. Re reading you paragraph it's quyite amazing how you slate 'leftists' for saying the war on terror is a war against a dogma and then claim that WW2 was a war against a dogma. Do you want to launch missiles at Ismaofascism, or just certain groups. It seems to me that to wind a war you've got to have a clear Idea of who or waht you enemy is. Your idea seems to change with every sentence you write.
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Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
I'm afraid you'll have to keep scrolling though.
Why? I thought his request was very polite. Besides it would be very considerate of you to comply, don't you think?
"Alot of the people on this forum are incredibly stupid, thinking that the internet is real"
Score: 1.0 in the Soap Boxled mike
No I think we should treat people's cultures and means of expression with respect. I'm perfectly happy to put up with Mike Hunt and I'd ask you to put up with Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo. If you can't find fault with my dazzling debating skills then don't launch attackls on my name family or other personal details.
Farmer Giles was fat and enjoyed a slow, comfortable life. Then one day a giant blundered on to his land. Farmer Giles managed to scare him away and instantly became a hero. So it was natural that when the dragon Chrysophylax visited the area, it was Farmer Giles who was to do battle with it.
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espeir wrote:
Your frustration in my unwillingness to accept your clearly flawed perspective as "right" is really pretty funny to watch.
Actually, e, as I've stated many times, I don't give a rat's ass whether or not you think my perspective -- or any perspective, for that matter -- is "right", nor would I ever expect you to. Given your inability to distinguish between "right" and "valid" in subjective matters, or to even acknowledge that some matters are subjective, as well as your inability to argue your points without resorting to misdirection, deliberate misinterpretation, and sophistry, I pity the person who holds any hope that they could, with anything short of a power-drill and a turkey baster, inject anything new into that hermetically sealed little mind of yours.
Vincent you are so right. Espeir does not understand the meaning of the word perspective. How can one argue with someone who lacks the intellectual capacity to even understand that the idea that it is obvious that only one perspective can be right is ludicrous. Espeir, if your reading this take a look out of your window and have a little think.
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No I think we should treat people's cultures and means of expression with respect. I'm perfectly happy to put up with Mike Hunt and I'd ask you to put up with Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo. If you can't find fault with my dazzling debating skills then don't launch attackls on my name family or other personal details.
Farmer Giles was fat and enjoyed a slow, comfortable life. Then one day a giant blundered on to his land. Farmer Giles managed to scare him away and instantly became a hero. So it was natural that when the dragon Chrysophylax visited the area, it was Farmer Giles who was to do battle with it.
Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
then don't launch attackls
Wait, I attacked you? :wtf:
Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
on my name family
I couldn't give a rats ass about your family name or how many words are in it, I only care about your USER NAME you inconsiderate asshole. Now that's an ATTACK.
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Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
sh$te.
that would be shiite. I propose this as the new, improved spelling for SHIT.
Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
crap, let's talk about Muslims
you're repeating yourself.
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
ahz wrote:
you're repeating yourself.
Crap, let's talk about muslims again.
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I propose a new spelling for your obviously made-up name: Mi Kunt
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
Not you too going on about people's names. Hoow's your pronounced? Is it ARSE?
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I have no clue what you're talking about, but congrats on the double-spaced thread... :~
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I don't actually understand what you mean. I know that my name takes two lines, why does that make the thread double spaced? Forgive my ignorance, or maybe my browser.
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Not you too going on about people's names. Hoow's your pronounced? Is it ARSE?
"Mike Hunt" is really a sock puppet that i made as a joke. I intended the name to sound like that.
And we never know under which new alias you're going to rear your ugly head. - Tim Craig
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espeir wrote:
Your frustration in my unwillingness to accept your clearly flawed perspective as "right" is really pretty funny to watch.
Actually, e, as I've stated many times, I don't give a rat's ass whether or not you think my perspective -- or any perspective, for that matter -- is "right", nor would I ever expect you to. Given your inability to distinguish between "right" and "valid" in subjective matters, or to even acknowledge that some matters are subjective, as well as your inability to argue your points without resorting to misdirection, deliberate misinterpretation, and sophistry, I pity the person who holds any hope that they could, with anything short of a power-drill and a turkey baster, inject anything new into that hermetically sealed little mind of yours.
Vincent Reynolds wrote:
hermetically sealed little mind of yours.
Hmmmm...More insults. Gotta say I wasn't expecting that! :laugh:
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds