Let's get people who see things from their own perspective.
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"Mike Hunt" is really a sock puppet that i made as a joke. I intended the name to sound like that.
And we never know under which new alias you're going to rear your ugly head. - Tim Craig
So, you really do have MPD!
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
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Vincent Reynolds wrote:
hermetically sealed little mind of yours.
Hmmmm...More insults. Gotta say I wasn't expecting that! :laugh:
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
Your post that I was replying to contained an insult, every post you make before I insult you contains an insult, your sig contains a direct insult -- and has for days -- so I'd say that your attempt to claim any sort of moral high ground, given your behavior in this forum, is an insult to everyone's intelligence.
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Vincent Reynolds wrote:
with anything short of a power-drill and a turkey baster, inject anything new into that hermetically sealed little mind of yours.
When was the last time anything was injected into yours?
Thank God for disproportional force.
Stan Shannon wrote:
When was the last time anything was injected into yours?
...says the person who is still fighting Communists and hippies.
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Your post that I was replying to contained an insult, every post you make before I insult you contains an insult, your sig contains a direct insult -- and has for days -- so I'd say that your attempt to claim any sort of moral high ground, given your behavior in this forum, is an insult to everyone's intelligence.
I insulted you? :~ "Your frustration in my unwillingness to accept your clearly flawed perspective as "right" is really pretty funny to watch." Hmmmmm...So which part was insulting? That I called your perspective flawed (which, of course, is criticism of your argument), or that I think your "frustration" is funny? Frankly, I don't see an insult in that sentence. Perhaps it's a matter of "perspective".
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
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So, you really do have MPD!
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
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I insulted you? :~ "Your frustration in my unwillingness to accept your clearly flawed perspective as "right" is really pretty funny to watch." Hmmmmm...So which part was insulting? That I called your perspective flawed (which, of course, is criticism of your argument), or that I think your "frustration" is funny? Frankly, I don't see an insult in that sentence. Perhaps it's a matter of "perspective".
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
espeir wrote:
Perhaps it's a matter of "perspective".
That would explain your inability to see it.
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Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
Vincent you are so right. Espeir does not understand the meaning of the word perspective. How can one argue with someone who lacks the intellectual capacity to even understand that the idea that it is obvious that only one perspective can be right is ludicrous.
The word "perspective" isn't overly complex. It's the way someone views the world. You're being rather hypocritical in that you're expecting me to not only understand your perspective (which I probably do), but you want me to validate it. You are therefore demanding that I take your relativistic approach and abandon my absolutist approach. In other words...You want me to abandon my perspective in favor of your. That's a bit ironic considering you're chastising me for advocating my own perspective.
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
Espeir are you being deliberately obtuse? It's inherent to the meaning of the word perspective that their can be more than one perspective on the same thing. If you don't like relativism why do you use inherently relativistic langueage. Absolutits don't have a perspective on anything. How could they?
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espeir wrote:
Perhaps it's a matter of "perspective".
That would explain your inability to see it.
Vincent Reynolds wrote:
That would explain your inability to see it.
If you find criticism of your arguments so "insulting", perhaps the Soapbox isn't for you. That explains your defensive attitude, though.
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
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Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
Not you too going on about people's names. Hoow's your pronounced? Is it ARSE?
No, not really. You obviously don't know that "Mike Hunt" is a euphemism for "My Kunt" (replace K with C).
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
Oh for god's sake. I'm aware of the joke concerning Mr Hunt. If AHZ isn't a euphamism for ARSE what is it? It's pronounced the same isn't it? Ok maybe the Z is a little softer.
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Espeir are you being deliberately obtuse? It's inherent to the meaning of the word perspective that their can be more than one perspective on the same thing. If you don't like relativism why do you use inherently relativistic langueage. Absolutits don't have a perspective on anything. How could they?
Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
Espeir are you being deliberately obtuse?
Don't call me fat!
Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
It's inherent to the meaning of the word perspective that their can be more than one perspective on the same thing. If you don't like relativism why do you use inherently relativistic langueage.
Exactly. Perspective is merely a matter of a way to view something. The fact that I do not "accept" a given perspective only means that I do not agree with it. For example, Islamic extremists believe that I should be violently killed. Obviously I disagree with them and, given the threat that particular perspective poses me, I advocate its destruction.
Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
Absolutits don't have a perspective on anything. How could they?
An absolutist simply doesn't accept that differing perspectives are inherently right. I accept my perspective and will change it if I ever believe it's wrong. If a differing perspective becomes a threat to me and my livelyhood, I will do what I can to ensure it's demise, lest I ensure my own.
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
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Stan Shannon wrote:
When was the last time anything was injected into yours?
...says the person who is still fighting Communists and hippies.
Answer the damn question. When was the last time anything was injected into yor mind? When was the lsat time you ever felt compelled to challange your preconcieved opinions? I'm just curious.
Thank God for disproportional force.
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Vincent Reynolds wrote:
That would explain your inability to see it.
If you find criticism of your arguments so "insulting", perhaps the Soapbox isn't for you. That explains your defensive attitude, though.
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
espeir wrote:
If you find criticism of your arguments so "insulting", perhaps the Soapbox isn't for you. That explains your defensive attitude, though.
Right. Every conversation we've had -- some of them bumping up against the limit on thread depth -- has been built entirely on mutual criticism, and I obviously have no problem with that. I don't even have a problem dealing with your insults -- sometimes witty, mostly only half so -- which I typically enjoy responding to in turn. However, it seems like you have recently developed some kind of mock-sensitivity, which you're trotting out every time you lack a decent response on point. You've ended nearly every recent thread by taking offense at some real or perceived insult, and refusing to respond further. Seems like you're the one who can dish it out, but, for whatever reason, can no longer take it.
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Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
Espeir are you being deliberately obtuse?
Don't call me fat!
Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
It's inherent to the meaning of the word perspective that their can be more than one perspective on the same thing. If you don't like relativism why do you use inherently relativistic langueage.
Exactly. Perspective is merely a matter of a way to view something. The fact that I do not "accept" a given perspective only means that I do not agree with it. For example, Islamic extremists believe that I should be violently killed. Obviously I disagree with them and, given the threat that particular perspective poses me, I advocate its destruction.
Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
Absolutits don't have a perspective on anything. How could they?
An absolutist simply doesn't accept that differing perspectives are inherently right. I accept my perspective and will change it if I ever believe it's wrong. If a differing perspective becomes a threat to me and my livelyhood, I will do what I can to ensure it's demise, lest I ensure my own.
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
What you actually wrote was "I obviously consider all perspectives that differ from my own to be wrong. If I thought a contrary perspective to be right, then I would adopt it as my own." That's a complete misunderstanding of what perspective means. It's inherent to the meaning of the word that more than one perspective can be valid. Perspective is the angle at which you are looking at something. I meant [i]Absolute tits[/i] actually. Sorry.
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Answer the damn question. When was the last time anything was injected into yor mind? When was the lsat time you ever felt compelled to challange your preconcieved opinions? I'm just curious.
Thank God for disproportional force.
The last time something was injected into my mind was 5-8 pints of lager followed by an even more indeterminate number of shorts and some rather strange smelling cigarettes. That certainly gave me a different perspective I can tell you?
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Oh for god's sake. I'm aware of the joke concerning Mr Hunt. If AHZ isn't a euphamism for ARSE what is it? It's pronounced the same isn't it? Ok maybe the Z is a little softer.
Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
If AHZ isn't a euphamism for ARSE what is it?
A euphemism for "OZ", pronounced "AHZ". As in "AAAAHHHHZZZZZ". Ahz is also a nickname for Ahmed Zahmed. Now who's being obtuse?
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
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espeir wrote:
If you find criticism of your arguments so "insulting", perhaps the Soapbox isn't for you. That explains your defensive attitude, though.
Right. Every conversation we've had -- some of them bumping up against the limit on thread depth -- has been built entirely on mutual criticism, and I obviously have no problem with that. I don't even have a problem dealing with your insults -- sometimes witty, mostly only half so -- which I typically enjoy responding to in turn. However, it seems like you have recently developed some kind of mock-sensitivity, which you're trotting out every time you lack a decent response on point. You've ended nearly every recent thread by taking offense at some real or perceived insult, and refusing to respond further. Seems like you're the one who can dish it out, but, for whatever reason, can no longer take it.
Vincent Reynolds wrote:
Right. Every conversation we've had -- some of them bumping up against the limit on thread depth -- has been built entirely on mutual criticism, and I obviously have no problem with that.
Correction. they have been built on my criticism of your flawed arguments coupled with your personal insults aimed at me. I admit that I insult you personally from time to time after you've hurled about a dozen personal insults at me. I did enjoy discussing such intellectually dangerous topics as "the tyranny of the majority" and what not, but I grew tired of your childish approach.
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
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What you actually wrote was "I obviously consider all perspectives that differ from my own to be wrong. If I thought a contrary perspective to be right, then I would adopt it as my own." That's a complete misunderstanding of what perspective means. It's inherent to the meaning of the word that more than one perspective can be valid. Perspective is the angle at which you are looking at something. I meant [i]Absolute tits[/i] actually. Sorry.
Ægidius Ahenobarbus wrote:
That's a complete misunderstanding of what perspective means. It's inherent to the meaning of the word that more than one perspective can be valid. Perspective is the angle at which you are looking at something.
Says the relativist. However, perspective does not always provide a correct view of something. Take Picasso, for example, who studied perspective by transferring 3-dimensional objects onto a 2-dimensional canvas, thus combining multiple perspectives into one and creating Cubism. Would you argue that Cubism correctly reflects reality, even though it's an amalgam of different perspectives? Not even Picasso would argue that. More relevantly, when taking into account political, religious and social perspectives, you have differing cultures which see intangible concepts in different and contradictory ways. Does the fact that Hindus and Buddhists have a different perspectives on all three of these intangible concepts concern me? No, because those perspectives are benign. Does Islam's perspective concern me? Certainly. They crossed the line and became violent aggressors against otherwise peaceful socities. I reject all three of those religions' perspectives, but I only advocate the destruction of the violent Islamic perspective.
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
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espeir wrote:
If you find criticism of your arguments so "insulting", perhaps the Soapbox isn't for you. That explains your defensive attitude, though.
Right. Every conversation we've had -- some of them bumping up against the limit on thread depth -- has been built entirely on mutual criticism, and I obviously have no problem with that. I don't even have a problem dealing with your insults -- sometimes witty, mostly only half so -- which I typically enjoy responding to in turn. However, it seems like you have recently developed some kind of mock-sensitivity, which you're trotting out every time you lack a decent response on point. You've ended nearly every recent thread by taking offense at some real or perceived insult, and refusing to respond further. Seems like you're the one who can dish it out, but, for whatever reason, can no longer take it.
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Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
If AHZ isn't a euphamism for ARSE what is it?
A euphemism for "OZ", pronounced "AHZ". As in "AAAAHHHHZZZZZ". Ahz is also a nickname for Ahmed Zahmed. Now who's being obtuse?
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
Now who's being obtuse? Not obtuse my dear, I'm taking the mickey out of you. Although now I'm having to spell it out it's falling a bit flat.
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Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo wrote:
Not you too going on about people's names. Hoow's your pronounced? Is it ARSE?
No, not really. You obviously don't know that "Mike Hunt" is a euphemism for "My Kunt" (replace K with C).
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay
Actually, "euphemism" is the wrong term. I think the one you're looking for is 'homophone'