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Posting a blog link that links to a dead link about something that, frankly, I don't have a clue what its talking about, is pretty lame, IMO. At least give me some context as to why I should even read that link. And of course, posting "my reply" and "my reply to your reply" links, well, that's even more pathetic. A round of 1's for everyone except Taka. Marc
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The link that you provided in the blog is not working. I will give my point of view, though. In Kerala, public schools are a total mess barring very a very few. A very large percentage of students study in private schools. Many public schools, mostly remote ones, do not have proper roofs, let alone computer rooms. Teachers practise how to avoid action by authorities while they practise "absenteeism". My point is that Open Source v/s Microsoft is not a major issue in these schools -- they don't have computers! In fact, they have so many other ills plaguing them. Let us assume for a moment that all public schools in Kerala got the requisite infrastructure, and good teachers. Now, even if the students used KDE instead of Windows GUI, used OpenOffice instead of Microsoft Office, learned some programming language using the Linux platform, it would not compromise their future in the technology business. After all, this is not graduate computer science education that we are talking about -- it is high school. Universities can still install Windows :) . . . and with such a vast majority of the computers outside the school running Windows, I would not assume that the students would hear about Windows and work on PCs running Windows before they ever attend a job interview. I think that it is better to have a common policy than let some local teacher dictate what is being taught. After all, in all other sujects taught in school, the curriculum is chosen centrally. In short, I think that people are making a moutain out of a mole.
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Posting a blog link that links to a dead link about something that, frankly, I don't have a clue what its talking about, is pretty lame, IMO. At least give me some context as to why I should even read that link. And of course, posting "my reply" and "my reply to your reply" links, well, that's even more pathetic. A round of 1's for everyone except Taka. Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithMarc Clifton wrote:
Posting a blog link that links to a dead link about something that, frankly, I don't have a clue what its talking about, is pretty lame, IMO.
We can't always talk about happenings in North America, Marc :-)
Marc Clifton wrote:
And of course, posting "my reply" and "my reply to your reply" links, well, that's even more pathetic.
My reply's subject clearly indicated what I was talking about (hence the subject change). Anyway, here's my blog post in its entirety so people don't have to open that link. The Government of Kerala (my state in India) has passed a ruling that public schools in the state will base their computer curriculum entirely on Linux. Initially the idea was to give schools the option to choose between Microsoft and Linux, but later this was narrowed down to limiting any Microsoft related topics to that of migrating to Linux from Windows based operating systems. The state is currently ruled by a leftist party, and the leaders of the party are strong proponents of open source software, specially after a couple of visits by Richard Stallman in the last few years. Now, personally, I feel that Linux is an excellent choice as an OS platform in high schools. It comes with an entire set of development tools, and while Microsoft gives away free editions of its compiler IDEs (the Express editions), they are limited in functionality, and the C++ version of the Express editions does not even support a resource editor. Also, the Linux OS comes with complete source code, and as a student, there can be nothing more exciting than to dig into the OS source code. And lastly, there are no installation costs for Linux (compared to Microsoft, even accounting for academic discounts). And in schools, there won’t be much of a maintenance cost either, because every school will have a few Linux geeks who’d help with maintaining the school network. But, I still strongly disapprove of the decision to totally ban Microsoft software from schools. Kids should still have a choice, and they need to know that there are other options outside of Linux. By restricting them forcibly to a particular OS, without their explicit (or implicit for that matter) permission, you are virtually diminishing their chances of going into a successful professional career based on Microsoft products. The smarter geekier kids would obviously find their own way, and make their own choices, and would p
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Posting a blog link that links to a dead link about something that, frankly, I don't have a clue what its talking about, is pretty lame, IMO. At least give me some context as to why I should even read that link. And of course, posting "my reply" and "my reply to your reply" links, well, that's even more pathetic. A round of 1's for everyone except Taka. Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithMarc Clifton wrote:
A round of 1's for everyone except Taka.
BTW, a 1 for you for showing a disregard for anything non-American :)
Regards, Nish
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The link that you provided in the blog is not working. I will give my point of view, though. In Kerala, public schools are a total mess barring very a very few. A very large percentage of students study in private schools. Many public schools, mostly remote ones, do not have proper roofs, let alone computer rooms. Teachers practise how to avoid action by authorities while they practise "absenteeism". My point is that Open Source v/s Microsoft is not a major issue in these schools -- they don't have computers! In fact, they have so many other ills plaguing them. Let us assume for a moment that all public schools in Kerala got the requisite infrastructure, and good teachers. Now, even if the students used KDE instead of Windows GUI, used OpenOffice instead of Microsoft Office, learned some programming language using the Linux platform, it would not compromise their future in the technology business. After all, this is not graduate computer science education that we are talking about -- it is high school. Universities can still install Windows :) . . . and with such a vast majority of the computers outside the school running Windows, I would not assume that the students would hear about Windows and work on PCs running Windows before they ever attend a job interview. I think that it is better to have a common policy than let some local teacher dictate what is being taught. After all, in all other sujects taught in school, the curriculum is chosen centrally. In short, I think that people are making a moutain out of a mole.
Thomas George wrote:
The link that you provided in the blog is not working.
It's Blogspot - and working fine for me. May have been temporarily down.
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Marc Clifton wrote:
A round of 1's for everyone except Taka.
BTW, a 1 for you for showing a disregard for anything non-American :)
Regards, Nish
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
a 1 for you for showing a disregard for anything non-American
Well, that's BS. I'm not showing disregard for anything non-American, I'm pissy about people posting links to blogs that contain broken links so it's impossible to figure out what the hell they're talking about. Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith -
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
a 1 for you for showing a disregard for anything non-American
Well, that's BS. I'm not showing disregard for anything non-American, I'm pissy about people posting links to blogs that contain broken links so it's impossible to figure out what the hell they're talking about. Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithMarc Clifton wrote:
Well, that's BS. I'm not showing disregard for anything non-American,
I know - I am sorry Marc, I got pissed that an issue that's very sensitive to me, got jerked around like this - my apologies for some immature behavior.
Marc Clifton wrote:
I'm pissy about people posting links to blogs that contain broken links
It was a Blogspot link he posted - maybe Blogspot was temporarily down.
Regards, Nish
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The link that you provided in the blog is not working. I will give my point of view, though. In Kerala, public schools are a total mess barring very a very few. A very large percentage of students study in private schools. Many public schools, mostly remote ones, do not have proper roofs, let alone computer rooms. Teachers practise how to avoid action by authorities while they practise "absenteeism". My point is that Open Source v/s Microsoft is not a major issue in these schools -- they don't have computers! In fact, they have so many other ills plaguing them. Let us assume for a moment that all public schools in Kerala got the requisite infrastructure, and good teachers. Now, even if the students used KDE instead of Windows GUI, used OpenOffice instead of Microsoft Office, learned some programming language using the Linux platform, it would not compromise their future in the technology business. After all, this is not graduate computer science education that we are talking about -- it is high school. Universities can still install Windows :) . . . and with such a vast majority of the computers outside the school running Windows, I would not assume that the students would hear about Windows and work on PCs running Windows before they ever attend a job interview. I think that it is better to have a common policy than let some local teacher dictate what is being taught. After all, in all other sujects taught in school, the curriculum is chosen centrally. In short, I think that people are making a moutain out of a mole.
Thomas George wrote:
Now, even if the students used KDE instead of Windows GUI, used OpenOffice instead of Microsoft Office, learned some programming language using the Linux platform, it would not compromise their future in the technology business.
Yeah, but it puts them into a rigid Microsoft-is-evil Open-Source-is-good mindset. That may be damaging to their futures.
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Thomas George wrote:
Now, even if the students used KDE instead of Windows GUI, used OpenOffice instead of Microsoft Office, learned some programming language using the Linux platform, it would not compromise their future in the technology business.
Yeah, but it puts them into a rigid Microsoft-is-evil Open-Source-is-good mindset. That may be damaging to their futures.
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)I don't think most people will buy into that argument, since they might be using Windows at home or at Internet cafes. Microsoft is mainstream -- it is difficult to sideline it with a policy that pushes Linux into schools. In fact, most teachers might end up bitching to their students how they would have been better off using Windows in school -- because they might be using Linux for the first time to teach their students :) I still think that the issue is insignificant. Most people will not ditch good products because of adverse propoganda; Most people won't use bad products because of favourable propoganda. There will always be a few idiots, who will assume fanatical positions. Thomas
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)Most of the time people go to school for learning basic stuff. School isn’t meant to tell you about technology. So if they set up systems that helps people learn more about basics of OS, it’s great. If Microsoft is banned, it is banned. What technology will people work on doesn’t matter when you are in school. More often than not, the stuff you learnt in school is going to be outdated by the time you start working. So how does it matter? So even if the Government is being narrow minded, I don’t think it matters as much. Comment by AbhisheBK — September 15, 2006 @ 2:12 pm
Abhishek The worst loneliness is not to be comfortable with yourself. --Mark Twain
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Classic example of controlling the young ones minds instead of setting them free to explore things themselves. Classic Pink Floyed song comes to mind "All in all we're just another brick in the wall"
Steady As She Goes!
Monty2 wrote:
"All in all we're just another brick in the wall"
Cool song that one :cool:
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Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)What’s ironic is that, just as RMS is losing popularity with most of the open source world, he’s gaining it in Kerala. And for all his principles of freedom, that’s the one thing that he’s helped to take away from Kerala’s school children - the freedom of choice. It is as simple as that and I agree completely!
"We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the internet, we know this is not true." -- Professor Robert Silensky
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Posting a blog link that links to a dead link about something that, frankly, I don't have a clue what its talking about, is pretty lame, IMO. At least give me some context as to why I should even read that link. And of course, posting "my reply" and "my reply to your reply" links, well, that's even more pathetic. A round of 1's for everyone except Taka. Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithWell, a double dumb-one on you!" to parapahrase a great Trek movie.
"We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the internet, we know this is not true." -- Professor Robert Silensky
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Most of the time people go to school for learning basic stuff. School isn’t meant to tell you about technology. So if they set up systems that helps people learn more about basics of OS, it’s great. If Microsoft is banned, it is banned. What technology will people work on doesn’t matter when you are in school. More often than not, the stuff you learnt in school is going to be outdated by the time you start working. So how does it matter? So even if the Government is being narrow minded, I don’t think it matters as much. Comment by AbhisheBK — September 15, 2006 @ 2:12 pm
Abhishek The worst loneliness is not to be comfortable with yourself. --Mark Twain
AbhishekBK wrote:
More often than not, the stuff you learnt in school is going to be outdated by the time you start working. So how does it matter?
what're you talking about, I still use some of the skills I picked up from using trash80's and apple2's in gradeschool. Lift up, insert papers underneath, st down. They won't go anywhere now. :rolleyes: