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  • R Ryan Roberts

    It's prayer and peaceful reflection day today. I predict irony free burning of the many, many cars of Allah as a reaction to this insult. On a related note - Oriana Fallaci has died[^], in her recent audience with the Pope she asked him to speak out against Islam. She threw of her chadoor while interviewing Khomeini, calling it a 'medieval rag'. An anti fascist resistance fighter and long time member of the radical left, now condemned by many as a fascist herself for continuing her opposition to totalitarianism..

    Ryan

    "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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    Bassam Abdul Baki
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    Hmmmm, Stan, Red, Mike and Ryan all in one voice. Things can't be good.


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    • R Ryan Roberts

      It's prayer and peaceful reflection day today. I predict irony free burning of the many, many cars of Allah as a reaction to this insult. On a related note - Oriana Fallaci has died[^], in her recent audience with the Pope she asked him to speak out against Islam. She threw of her chadoor while interviewing Khomeini, calling it a 'medieval rag'. An anti fascist resistance fighter and long time member of the radical left, now condemned by many as a fascist herself for continuing her opposition to totalitarianism..

      Ryan

      "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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      Red Stateler
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      The article said:

      "She was not married and had no children."

      I can't imagine why!


      "I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds

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      • R Ryan Roberts

        It's prayer and peaceful reflection day today. I predict irony free burning of the many, many cars of Allah as a reaction to this insult. On a related note - Oriana Fallaci has died[^], in her recent audience with the Pope she asked him to speak out against Islam. She threw of her chadoor while interviewing Khomeini, calling it a 'medieval rag'. An anti fascist resistance fighter and long time member of the radical left, now condemned by many as a fascist herself for continuing her opposition to totalitarianism..

        Ryan

        "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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        KaRl
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        Ryan Roberts wrote:

        An anti fascist resistance fighter and long time member of the radical left, now condemned by many as a fascist herself for continuing her opposition to totalitarianism..

        non, not "for continuing her opposition to totalitarianism", but to use same kind of words you could have heard in Iraly before 1943(just replace 'muslim' by 'jew'). It would not be the first time that someone leaning towards radical left would become a conservative or even worse when growing older, starting by Mussolini himself.


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          Ryan Roberts wrote:

          An anti fascist resistance fighter and long time member of the radical left, now condemned by many as a fascist herself for continuing her opposition to totalitarianism..

          non, not "for continuing her opposition to totalitarianism", but to use same kind of words you could have heard in Iraly before 1943(just replace 'muslim' by 'jew'). It would not be the first time that someone leaning towards radical left would become a conservative or even worse when growing older, starting by Mussolini himself.


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          K(arl) wrote:

          non, not "for continuing her opposition to totalitarianism", but to use same kind of words you could have heard in Iraly before 1943(just replace 'muslim' by 'jew').

          Hmmmm...So apparently Hitlers path of destruction continues to this day. The obvious can't be stated because it sounds a little too...Hitlery.


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            Ryan Roberts wrote:

            An anti fascist resistance fighter and long time member of the radical left, now condemned by many as a fascist herself for continuing her opposition to totalitarianism..

            non, not "for continuing her opposition to totalitarianism", but to use same kind of words you could have heard in Iraly before 1943(just replace 'muslim' by 'jew'). It would not be the first time that someone leaning towards radical left would become a conservative or even worse when growing older, starting by Mussolini himself.


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            Yes, except of course the accusations against Jews were baseless. Thankfuly the case was thrown out in France.

            Ryan

            "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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            • R Ryan Roberts

              Yes, except of course the accusations against Jews were baseless. Thankfuly the case was thrown out in France.

              Ryan

              "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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              I don't see the difference between claiming that "muslim prolifer like rats" because there a few extremists throw bombs and calling to punish jews because of the actions of Herschel Grynszpan. In both case it is using circumstances to call for racial hatred.


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                I don't see the difference between claiming that "muslim prolifer like rats" because there a few extremists throw bombs and calling to punish jews because of the actions of Herschel Grynszpan. In both case it is using circumstances to call for racial hatred.


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                Ryan Roberts
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                Can't say I like the language, demographic facts speak for themselves. It's a hell of a lot more than a "few extremists", at least this side of the channel.

                Ryan

                "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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                • R Ryan Roberts

                  Can't say I like the language, demographic facts speak for themselves. It's a hell of a lot more than a "few extremists", at least this side of the channel.

                  Ryan

                  "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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                  KaRl
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                  Ryan Roberts wrote:

                  Can't say I like the language

                  Come on, you know it is the central point.

                  Ryan Roberts wrote:

                  It's a hell of a lot more than a "few extremists", at least this side of the channel

                  Then make 'your' job and get rid of them.


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                    Ryan Roberts wrote:

                    Can't say I like the language

                    Come on, you know it is the central point.

                    Ryan Roberts wrote:

                    It's a hell of a lot more than a "few extremists", at least this side of the channel

                    Then make 'your' job and get rid of them.


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                    K(arl) wrote:

                    Come on, you know it is the central point.

                    It's emotive, certainly, deliberately knowing Fallaci. If however she were to have said "the muslim population of europe has doubled in the past decade and many projections hold that it will double again by 2015", in the context of anything other than what a wonderful thing that would be the reaction would have been similar. Just not as likely to get her the publicity..

                    Ryan

                    "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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                    • R Red Stateler

                      Seriously, though. You're TOTALLY misrepresenting Islam. They're peace-loving people with just the OCCASIONAL extremist. Or something.


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                      Red Stateler wrote:

                      They're peace-loving people

                      No offense, just a question. Doesn't they kill women who have been raped by throwing stones on them???

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                        Red Stateler wrote:

                        They're peace-loving people

                        No offense, just a question. Doesn't they kill women who have been raped by throwing stones on them???

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                        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                        Michal Martinka wrote:

                        No offense

                        You must be new to soapbox:)


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                        • R Ryan Roberts

                          It's prayer and peaceful reflection day today. I predict irony free burning of the many, many cars of Allah as a reaction to this insult. On a related note - Oriana Fallaci has died[^], in her recent audience with the Pope she asked him to speak out against Islam. She threw of her chadoor while interviewing Khomeini, calling it a 'medieval rag'. An anti fascist resistance fighter and long time member of the radical left, now condemned by many as a fascist herself for continuing her opposition to totalitarianism..

                          Ryan

                          "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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                          kgaddy
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                          Ryan Roberts wrote:

                          On a related note - Oriana Fallaci has died[^],

                          I didn't know that. She will be missed.

                          My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                            Red Stateler wrote:

                            They're peace-loving people

                            No offense, just a question. Doesn't they kill women who have been raped by throwing stones on them???

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                            Under the Taliban, and sometimes in Iran. It's not ubiquitous. Rape is often punished though, as unless the victim can produce 4 male witnesses she is considered to have committed adultery which is punishable by whipping (if unmarried) or death (if married) under Sharia law.

                            Ryan

                            "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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                              K(arl) wrote:

                              Come on, you know it is the central point.

                              It's emotive, certainly, deliberately knowing Fallaci. If however she were to have said "the muslim population of europe has doubled in the past decade and many projections hold that it will double again by 2015", in the context of anything other than what a wonderful thing that would be the reaction would have been similar. Just not as likely to get her the publicity..

                              Ryan

                              "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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                              First she pretended that when a muslim has a child, it is mandatory a muslim, as if being muslim was being part of a specific race: she didn't accept that a muslim can be also an Italian citizen, whose children would also be italian citizens. And when comparing a group of people to rats, it is not emotive but insulting and she knew it.


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                                Under the Taliban, and sometimes in Iran. It's not ubiquitous. Rape is often punished though, as unless the victim can produce 4 male witnesses she is considered to have committed adultery which is punishable by whipping (if unmarried) or death (if married) under Sharia law.

                                Ryan

                                "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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                                Ryan Roberts wrote:

                                unless the victim can produce 4 male witnesses she is considered to have committed adultery

                                4 male witnesses? It's stupid. How often this happens? What are the chances to have 4 male witnesses in case of rape?

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                                  First she pretended that when a muslim has a child, it is mandatory a muslim, as if being muslim was being part of a specific race: she didn't accept that a muslim can be also an Italian citizen, whose children would also be italian citizens. And when comparing a group of people to rats, it is not emotive but insulting and she knew it.


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                                  K(arl) wrote:

                                  First she pretended that when a muslim has a child, it is mandatory a muslim, as if being muslim was being part of a specific race

                                  That's exactly what Mulsims believe.. To the extent that the Bahai in Iran are sometime punished for apostacy, becuase their ancestors were born Muslim. I think you should check the target of your condemnation..

                                  Ryan

                                  "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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                                    Ryan Roberts wrote:

                                    unless the victim can produce 4 male witnesses she is considered to have committed adultery

                                    4 male witnesses? It's stupid. How often this happens? What are the chances to have 4 male witnesses in case of rape?

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                                    Ryan Roberts
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                                    Yup, old Mo' had a handy revelation after someone accused his child bride Aisha of adultery. 24:8[^].

                                    Ryan

                                    "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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                                    • M mmikey7

                                      Ryan Roberts wrote:

                                      unless the victim can produce 4 male witnesses she is considered to have committed adultery

                                      4 male witnesses? It's stupid. How often this happens? What are the chances to have 4 male witnesses in case of rape?

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                                      Michal Martinka wrote:

                                      4 male witnesses? It's stupid. How often this happens? What are the chances to have 4 male witnesses in case of rape?

                                      Don’t believe everything you read here; especially considering it’s the SB and Ryan is speaking about Islam. Some Clarification[^]

                                      Recitation(not full prayer)in AlMasjid AlHaram Surah AlHaaqa(The Reality) Surah Qaf Eid Alfitr Turning Muslim in Texas?

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                                        K(arl) wrote:

                                        First she pretended that when a muslim has a child, it is mandatory a muslim, as if being muslim was being part of a specific race

                                        That's exactly what Mulsims believe.. To the extent that the Bahai in Iran are sometime punished for apostacy, becuase their ancestors were born Muslim. I think you should check the target of your condemnation..

                                        Ryan

                                        "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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                                        KaRl
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                                        Ryan Roberts wrote:

                                        That's exactly what Mulsims believe.

                                        BS. And even if it is, a muslim can be a citizen as the same level than a Catholic or an atheist, that is democracy 101. This mentality of 'besieged' is ridiculous and toxic.

                                        Ryan Roberts wrote:

                                        . To the extent that the Bahai in Iran are sometime punished for apostacy, becuase their ancestors were born Muslim

                                        Your geographical diversion won't help you to justify insulting people you know.


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                                          Michal Martinka wrote:

                                          4 male witnesses? It's stupid. How often this happens? What are the chances to have 4 male witnesses in case of rape?

                                          Don’t believe everything you read here; especially considering it’s the SB and Ryan is speaking about Islam. Some Clarification[^]

                                          Recitation(not full prayer)in AlMasjid AlHaram Surah AlHaaqa(The Reality) Surah Qaf Eid Alfitr Turning Muslim in Texas?

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                                          "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution or crucifixion or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter" :~


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