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  • M Marc Soleda

    Hi all, I've just bought a Core 2 Duo at 2.4 Ghz - E6600. It's installed on an asus P5B motherboard. All seems to work fine excepts for the temperature. The Bios read value and the Probe II is around 60º C when it's in idle mode and the fan is all time running. If I used the Everest or the Core Temps software that discriminates the temperature between the 2 cores they mark 43 and 47º C. when I test with Sandra benchmarks and when doing the Multimedia test, the temperatue raises until 68º (52 a 54º C with Everest). If I touch the CPU it's hot but not at an extrem point. Are this values correct for a Conroe CPU or are them risky? I've installed the fan that comes with the CPU. Which do you recommend if I think I have to upgrade it? Thanks in advance, Marc Soleda Sorry for the repost, because I've already post this message on the Hardware forum but the activity there is quite low so I decide to post it here.

    ... she said you are the perfect stranger she said baby let's keep it like this... Dire Straits

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    Anything near 60 is very hot to the touch, almost burning, so if you cna touch it and it is just hot, it is probably nearer 45. It is incredible how hot chips get though.

    Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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      Hi all, I've just bought a Core 2 Duo at 2.4 Ghz - E6600. It's installed on an asus P5B motherboard. All seems to work fine excepts for the temperature. The Bios read value and the Probe II is around 60º C when it's in idle mode and the fan is all time running. If I used the Everest or the Core Temps software that discriminates the temperature between the 2 cores they mark 43 and 47º C. when I test with Sandra benchmarks and when doing the Multimedia test, the temperatue raises until 68º (52 a 54º C with Everest). If I touch the CPU it's hot but not at an extrem point. Are this values correct for a Conroe CPU or are them risky? I've installed the fan that comes with the CPU. Which do you recommend if I think I have to upgrade it? Thanks in advance, Marc Soleda Sorry for the repost, because I've already post this message on the Hardware forum but the activity there is quite low so I decide to post it here.

      ... she said you are the perfect stranger she said baby let's keep it like this... Dire Straits

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      Joan M
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      Hello Marc, Have you used the special silicon when you have mounted the processor? if you have not you should not continue using the computer, wait until everything is cold, dismount it again and put the little amount of special silicon that is needed on the processor. I hope that this won't be the real cause, but is the only thing that I can imagine. Hope this helps. PS: I don't know if the newest processors still do need this silicon, I only suppose that, but the old ones could be very seriously damaged without htat silicon. Best regards. ;)

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        Hello Marc, Have you used the special silicon when you have mounted the processor? if you have not you should not continue using the computer, wait until everything is cold, dismount it again and put the little amount of special silicon that is needed on the processor. I hope that this won't be the real cause, but is the only thing that I can imagine. Hope this helps. PS: I don't know if the newest processors still do need this silicon, I only suppose that, but the old ones could be very seriously damaged without htat silicon. Best regards. ;)

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        Joan Murt wrote:

        PS: I don't know if the newest processors still do need this silicon, I only suppose that, but the old ones could be very seriously damaged without htat silicon.

        The surfaces of heat sinks and CPUs aren't smooth, and leaves air between the contact areas. Air is an insulator, and prevents heat from dissapating. The cost of making the contact areas sufficiently smooth is probably far too expensive than what the average buyer is willing to pay for, so I reckon we'll be seeing that paste for a long time. :)

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          Hello Marc, Have you used the special silicon when you have mounted the processor? if you have not you should not continue using the computer, wait until everything is cold, dismount it again and put the little amount of special silicon that is needed on the processor. I hope that this won't be the real cause, but is the only thing that I can imagine. Hope this helps. PS: I don't know if the newest processors still do need this silicon, I only suppose that, but the old ones could be very seriously damaged without htat silicon. Best regards. ;)

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          Mike Dimmick
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          The silicone grease (thermal grease), if applied in a thin layer, fills in the tiny gaps between the surface of the processor package and the surface of the heatsink. This improves the thermal conductivity between the package and the heatsink. The fan simply improves the circulation of air across the heatsink. It doesn't actually cool it, simply pushes cool(er) air across the heatsink itself, therefore ensuring that the heat energy can actually dissipate - if the heatsink and surrounding air were the same temperature, the energy transfer would not occur and the heatsink and hence processor would heat up. There is a resistance to conduction, so the air has to be several degrees cooler than the heatsink for the energy transfer to occur. It's therefore important to have good airflow within the system unit as a whole, so that the processor doesn't just get surrounded by a pocket of hot air, but instead the hot air is exhausted from the case. Also, don't position your system unit too close to a wall - if you do this, the hot air can't escape from around the system unit and will circulate back through, preventing (again) the processor from cooling. I'm thinking of getting a Dell for my next machine simply because they actually can design airflow systems properly.

          Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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            Anything near 60 is very hot to the touch, almost burning, so if you cna touch it and it is just hot, it is probably nearer 45. It is incredible how hot chips get though.

            Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception

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            Marc Soleda
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            That's my impresion also, also after using "Everest" or "Core Temp" programs that I think are quite better than Asus one and mesuares each core separatelly. These programs indicates 45º C on idle ... Thanks, Marc Soleda

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              Hello Marc, Have you used the special silicon when you have mounted the processor? if you have not you should not continue using the computer, wait until everything is cold, dismount it again and put the little amount of special silicon that is needed on the processor. I hope that this won't be the real cause, but is the only thing that I can imagine. Hope this helps. PS: I don't know if the newest processors still do need this silicon, I only suppose that, but the old ones could be very seriously damaged without htat silicon. Best regards. ;)

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              Marc Soleda
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              Hi Joan, thanks for the advise but unfortunately is something that I've already done (I hope that properly ...). On midday I've called to Intel and they told me that 60º C is not something to be worried about :doh: but I'm still frightened :suss:. Nice to hear from you again, Marc Soleda.

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              • M Marc Soleda

                Hi all, I've just bought a Core 2 Duo at 2.4 Ghz - E6600. It's installed on an asus P5B motherboard. All seems to work fine excepts for the temperature. The Bios read value and the Probe II is around 60º C when it's in idle mode and the fan is all time running. If I used the Everest or the Core Temps software that discriminates the temperature between the 2 cores they mark 43 and 47º C. when I test with Sandra benchmarks and when doing the Multimedia test, the temperatue raises until 68º (52 a 54º C with Everest). If I touch the CPU it's hot but not at an extrem point. Are this values correct for a Conroe CPU or are them risky? I've installed the fan that comes with the CPU. Which do you recommend if I think I have to upgrade it? Thanks in advance, Marc Soleda Sorry for the repost, because I've already post this message on the Hardware forum but the activity there is quite low so I decide to post it here.

                ... she said you are the perfect stranger she said baby let's keep it like this... Dire Straits

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                I have Core 2 Duo at 2.4GHz E6600 on Asus P5WDG2 WD Pro. The temperature is around 45-47C in idle mode and around 56-58C when procesor utilization is 60% for a while. I've tried some tests and in 100% load, the temperature is around 60, max. temp I've seen is 64C. I'm thinking about upgrade to Zalman CNPS9500 LED[^]. I use Core Temp[^] and Probe II to see temperature of CPU.

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                • M Marc Soleda

                  Hi all, I've just bought a Core 2 Duo at 2.4 Ghz - E6600. It's installed on an asus P5B motherboard. All seems to work fine excepts for the temperature. The Bios read value and the Probe II is around 60º C when it's in idle mode and the fan is all time running. If I used the Everest or the Core Temps software that discriminates the temperature between the 2 cores they mark 43 and 47º C. when I test with Sandra benchmarks and when doing the Multimedia test, the temperatue raises until 68º (52 a 54º C with Everest). If I touch the CPU it's hot but not at an extrem point. Are this values correct for a Conroe CPU or are them risky? I've installed the fan that comes with the CPU. Which do you recommend if I think I have to upgrade it? Thanks in advance, Marc Soleda Sorry for the repost, because I've already post this message on the Hardware forum but the activity there is quite low so I decide to post it here.

                  ... she said you are the perfect stranger she said baby let's keep it like this... Dire Straits

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                  ra ra ra ra
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                  Count yer self lucky !! I have a Dell Inspiron 9400 (laptop hingy), with a Duo proc T2400 & Nividia Geforce7800 Vid card. I get GPU temps of about 70 degrees celsius when just doing normal app work, and rockets to about a steady 85 degrees when playing games. Should at least keep me nice and warm this coming winter!!

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                  • M Marc Soleda

                    Hi Joan, thanks for the advise but unfortunately is something that I've already done (I hope that properly ...). On midday I've called to Intel and they told me that 60º C is not something to be worried about :doh: but I'm still frightened :suss:. Nice to hear from you again, Marc Soleda.

                    ... she said you are the perfect stranger she said baby let's keep it like this... Dire Straits

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                    70C is the standard upper limit. Elaine :rose:

                    The tigress is here :-D

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                    • M Mike Dimmick

                      The silicone grease (thermal grease), if applied in a thin layer, fills in the tiny gaps between the surface of the processor package and the surface of the heatsink. This improves the thermal conductivity between the package and the heatsink. The fan simply improves the circulation of air across the heatsink. It doesn't actually cool it, simply pushes cool(er) air across the heatsink itself, therefore ensuring that the heat energy can actually dissipate - if the heatsink and surrounding air were the same temperature, the energy transfer would not occur and the heatsink and hence processor would heat up. There is a resistance to conduction, so the air has to be several degrees cooler than the heatsink for the energy transfer to occur. It's therefore important to have good airflow within the system unit as a whole, so that the processor doesn't just get surrounded by a pocket of hot air, but instead the hot air is exhausted from the case. Also, don't position your system unit too close to a wall - if you do this, the hot air can't escape from around the system unit and will circulate back through, preventing (again) the processor from cooling. I'm thinking of getting a Dell for my next machine simply because they actually can design airflow systems properly.

                      Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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                      Mike Dimmick wrote:

                      I'm thinking of getting a Dell for my next machine simply because they actually can design airflow systems properly.

                      in that case you might want to read this[^], this[^], or this[^] first

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                        Count yer self lucky !! I have a Dell Inspiron 9400 (laptop hingy), with a Duo proc T2400 & Nividia Geforce7800 Vid card. I get GPU temps of about 70 degrees celsius when just doing normal app work, and rockets to about a steady 85 degrees when playing games. Should at least keep me nice and warm this coming winter!!

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                        Marc Soleda
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                        Today I'll install some games to stress it a little bit more :(( I've left the fire stinguisher near there ...

                        ... she said you are the perfect stranger she said baby let's keep it like this... Dire Straits

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                        • Z Zdeslav Vojkovic

                          Mike Dimmick wrote:

                          I'm thinking of getting a Dell for my next machine simply because they actually can design airflow systems properly.

                          in that case you might want to read this[^], this[^], or this[^] first

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                          I'm not surprised that some Dell models do have airflow problems, but in general I'm with Mike on this one -- I've had quite a struggle to get my last two 'beige box' desktops at home to have as good an airflow as my last two Dell desktops at work. I've been getting reminders all summer about how challenging the cooling job is getting these days -- my Dell 3.8 GHz Pentium 4 desktop sits under my desk, and whenever I work it hard the air gets rather toasty for my poor legs that have to be under there as well. Sure was handy last winter, though. :)

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                          • M Marc Soleda

                            Hi all, I've just bought a Core 2 Duo at 2.4 Ghz - E6600. It's installed on an asus P5B motherboard. All seems to work fine excepts for the temperature. The Bios read value and the Probe II is around 60º C when it's in idle mode and the fan is all time running. If I used the Everest or the Core Temps software that discriminates the temperature between the 2 cores they mark 43 and 47º C. when I test with Sandra benchmarks and when doing the Multimedia test, the temperatue raises until 68º (52 a 54º C with Everest). If I touch the CPU it's hot but not at an extrem point. Are this values correct for a Conroe CPU or are them risky? I've installed the fan that comes with the CPU. Which do you recommend if I think I have to upgrade it? Thanks in advance, Marc Soleda Sorry for the repost, because I've already post this message on the Hardware forum but the activity there is quite low so I decide to post it here.

                            ... she said you are the perfect stranger she said baby let's keep it like this... Dire Straits

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                            El Corazon
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                            Find the overclocker's favorite within your budget (phase change cooling is... well... cool, but the price is frightening). http://www.overclockercafe.com/[^]

                            _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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