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Recently i read an article that claims "Employees working from home can be 60% more productive than a regular conventional working culture". How much truth in this ? Virtual Company will get boom in future ?
Karthik M
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Recently i read an article that claims "Employees working from home can be 60% more productive than a regular conventional working culture". How much truth in this ? Virtual Company will get boom in future ?
Karthik M
When I was working at office, I was very frustrated to spend 2-3 hours each days on the road. When I get home at evenings, I was so tired and could not spend time with my family effectively. I have been working at home for more then 3 years right now, and I quite satisfied with it. I feel more flexible and productive.
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Gautam Jain wrote:
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Ryan
"Punctuality is only a virtue for those who aren't smart enough to think of good excuses for being late" John Nichol "Point Of Impact"
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Recently i read an article that claims "Employees working from home can be 60% more productive than a regular conventional working culture". How much truth in this ? Virtual Company will get boom in future ?
Karthik M
Hi all, This is my first post. "Virtual company" what are we taking about here! it means employees working from home, what they gain? what is the benefits? what is bad for the company? and what is bad for the employee? I think the first one is simple. employees, no developers, will be happy working effective, and productive. for the company, it should hire supervisors that have good communications with those developers to monitor the work, and the deadlines. what if they are all working from home!!!!! for developers think that u have to live after the working hours, with your wife ,if u have, with your dog, reading extra books about space, or poet or anything different from computer science to make your mind working properly.... thats all. :cool:
Effective programmers who can only really communicate well with the compiler
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A great deal, but it depends on factors such as a) your home environment, b) what sort of work you are doing and c) how much you need to interact with others. Furthermore, some people more naturally adapt to it than others. Personally I find home working to be quite natural - I find commuting really draining (and could spend that time working!), and work far more efficiently when I can set my hours rather than having to fit in with an artificial working day. :rose:
Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
Yep, being able to sleep at Mid-night and wake up at 9am is great. :-> Commuting is a bore :sigh: (eventhough can read and walk for excercise), but you are forced to spend that time daily, not so rewarding. For most of us, it costs time and money :( Now I'm commuting to meet clients, at least I get the seat on the train now, or can drive with no one in my way ;) actually, I always book meetings outside of peek-hour traffic (why not?) ;P More productive: it can be, but we are human, some people do things at the last minute, so it can be bad for them as they like to waste time before starting/completing projects. People who know time management, and focus on Goals can achieve more productiveness from home. Some working environments are not suited to programmers; was working at one place where I had 5 jobs! :wtf: was asked to do heaps of different things coz no one else could or would (known problem with small companies). ATM I run own business; it's just one person, me, and it's better in the way where you have more of a life, your work is more meaningful, when you work you are rewarded in every way, not just money and a pat on the back (most don't even get the pat on the back these days :doh:) I agree with previous comment ~"freelancing will grow in the future", (speaking for Australia), more and more people are starting own businesses, that is once they have the right skills in a specific area, and not just in I.T, all Sectors included. Own Business is a big step, must admit, even if it doesn't look like it at first, but there is a lot to do if you are trying to do it properly, and try to win clients. To Freelance, all you need is a network of people and resources, yeah would be small at first. If you have a couple of clients lined up, perfect! They can keep the income flowing while you build business. anyways, goodluck to all about to jump on the freelancers boat. You have a question, just PM me. Cheers ;)
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Do you play pc games?
--[:jig:]-- [My Current Status] Link2006 wrote:Let's take it outside of CP Jeremy : Please don't.I would love to see this.I'm making the popcorn already.
Games are too good, specially Strategy games. I've been playing Boardgames recently (e.g. Puerto Rico, Rail Road Tycoon, No Limit Texas Holdem :cool:) at least you get to spend time with friends, use the ol' brain and have fun (mostly). I wish there were 48 hours in a day, 24 do normal life stuff, and another 24 to play games hahah :laugh: (I guess I'm just a big Kid :-O)
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For me, it is hard to work from home because my 3 year old daughter keeps distracting me. And my wife too. And there are several visitors every day. And my neighbours kids... and so on. Regards, Gautam Jain
Regards, Gautam Jain
Yep see the problem there, "uncontroled interuptions". 1. I've seen people build an office in their garage. So, there is space between the house and garage. ;) 2. If you can't get out of house, I sometimes work with radio on, so it overrides conversations that you accidentally listen to instead of work. If people interupt me while working, I just tell them straight, "I'm working, can't talk right now, need to concentrate on something." They always understand (may winge first though). But you said, "at home, with 3yr old", if you are baby sitting and working same time, then you are doing 2 jobs at once, umm... you're just asking for trouble, heheh ;)
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Games are too good, specially Strategy games. I've been playing Boardgames recently (e.g. Puerto Rico, Rail Road Tycoon, No Limit Texas Holdem :cool:) at least you get to spend time with friends, use the ol' brain and have fun (mostly). I wish there were 48 hours in a day, 24 do normal life stuff, and another 24 to play games hahah :laugh: (I guess I'm just a big Kid :-O)
So nice to hear that you love games too. In my point, there's no need that when we start to grow beard and mustache we should act like a machoman and leave all the fun. Even there are people who really are kids at heart but they pretend to be Matured(Not having fun, in their meaning) and speak only few words that too filled with exessive sarcasm. People should love games in all forms from video to a play ground football and never get corrupt as they try become "mature". Damn I dont know why they would choose to become so why they would like to act "Big"?. The only thing they concentrate while showing that they are matured is the opposite sex. that's it. But the game lover and fun loving people would find their won partner too :-D. Nice meeting you buddy :).. visit us often. become an active member in CP you'll find your own group here. and I'll be standing first in that and with me there are many like you. You'll enjoy it :beer:
--[:jig:]-- [My Current Status] Link2006 wrote:Let's take it outside of CP Jeremy : Please don't.I would love to see this.I'm making the popcorn already.
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It is easy to imagine that 60% is a good number. In the office there can be a constant stream of interruptions. Some important to the project, some not so much. "How was the [weekend|vacation|game|movie|tv show|etc]?", "How's the [wife|kids|dog|new car|etc]?" and on and on and on. You all know what I mean. Related question: in the office, how do you control the interruptions? You are a friendly, outgoing person who always says "Hello" to your coworkers and wants to be thought of as a 'nice' guy. What do you do when the relationships evolve and you find yourself unable to manage the too many non work related interruptions from too many coworkers? Is the answer that you need to decide between being friendly and being productive?
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So nice to hear that you love games too. In my point, there's no need that when we start to grow beard and mustache we should act like a machoman and leave all the fun. Even there are people who really are kids at heart but they pretend to be Matured(Not having fun, in their meaning) and speak only few words that too filled with exessive sarcasm. People should love games in all forms from video to a play ground football and never get corrupt as they try become "mature". Damn I dont know why they would choose to become so why they would like to act "Big"?. The only thing they concentrate while showing that they are matured is the opposite sex. that's it. But the game lover and fun loving people would find their won partner too :-D. Nice meeting you buddy :).. visit us often. become an active member in CP you'll find your own group here. and I'll be standing first in that and with me there are many like you. You'll enjoy it :beer:
--[:jig:]-- [My Current Status] Link2006 wrote:Let's take it outside of CP Jeremy : Please don't.I would love to see this.I'm making the popcorn already.
Life should be about balancing, Freelancing needs balance, (and realizing) the things we want/like. Our wants and likes change over time, however some people "lose themselves" by concentrating on one "Like", not so good. Regarding productiveness, we must not always do the things we like the most, or else you become a "junkie" (they're not productive) Even if you are a Work Junkie, you would be draining yourself of real Life. Being able to play games to satisfy your your want/likes is good, but obviously we need to balance. Working from home is good for those who can control themselves and realize the balance they wish to achieve. I find it hard to not play games sometimes, as I need to catch up with work etc... but it's something I need to do as a Freelancer to make sure everything is "on track". On the other hand, I've seen people work for companies where they spend all their "after hours" playing games or having fun another way, they are basically on holidays heh :), that's ok if you are not planning much for your life, but as a Freelancer you are more compelled to excel which is what I like about it. Always pushing limits, and jumping into the unknown instead of just cruising by saying "i wanna do this and that"... but never doing it :doh:. most of us say we are too tired to do things for ourselves due to hours working for another company (?) and time spent commuting! :~ Bottom line is, Freelancing means Freedom. You choose, what you choose determines where you will get. You want to be more productive, then you can, just concentrate on it. If there is something stoping you, learn to control it, or find a way around it. Your rules, your space.:-> Damn, :doh: is that the time(?)! need to get back to work :laugh:
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What a fantastic idea..;)!!! Work from home would always be great...simply great... No specific time frame...no hecking...just you and your work.. Just finish it and spend rest of your time with family n friends!! Grt grt!! Ho but when will that happen.. hope in the near future for me :-D
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That depends on what you've got at home. A bachelor should be at least two or three times as productive (presuming the guy was working at the office in the first place :)). I'm not going to explain too much, just two concepts: 'not making the trip to the office' and 'underpants'. But since I'm married and I've got a cat, I have to fight for my right to privacy and silence, which gets terribly annoying and contraproductive. So I am working at the office, even if I am wasting 2 hours everyday by just going and coming to work.:sigh:
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Siderite Zaqwedex wrote:
bachelor should be at least two or three times as productive
This is an interesting topic, here is my idea on it... 1st, I'm a bachelor, so it may be hard for me to completely understand. BUT I imagine not being a bachelor, if I worked in a remote office, what would happen at home? Then; I work from home, making sure everything that would be as imagined as working remotely, would be the same working from home. Asking (did anyone enter the back room when I was away?) No. So I ask intruders..."so why now? why not wait till after 6pm like you normally would?" then follow "leave me alone to concentrate" :mad: If you are married, then this last step could be a disaster heheh ;P And the "cone of silence" from Max Smart would be handy, with a good lock on the door too ;) I have personally done this, but not to a wife or child... my Mum :sigh: :-O hahah but, it did work!
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Siderite Zaqwedex wrote:
bachelor should be at least two or three times as productive
This is an interesting topic, here is my idea on it... 1st, I'm a bachelor, so it may be hard for me to completely understand. BUT I imagine not being a bachelor, if I worked in a remote office, what would happen at home? Then; I work from home, making sure everything that would be as imagined as working remotely, would be the same working from home. Asking (did anyone enter the back room when I was away?) No. So I ask intruders..."so why now? why not wait till after 6pm like you normally would?" then follow "leave me alone to concentrate" :mad: If you are married, then this last step could be a disaster heheh ;P And the "cone of silence" from Max Smart would be handy, with a good lock on the door too ;) I have personally done this, but not to a wife or child... my Mum :sigh: :-O hahah but, it did work!
Well, first of all, working at home means you are relaxed (see underpants :omg:) you don't waste time doing the unnecessary work like getting dressed, ready for work, move to the work place, come from the work place, eat only once or twice a day. If you are also a bachelor, you don't need to clean yourself in any way until you finish your software and then a bath is like a reward (see training dogs :laugh:). The problems with working at home are all linked to distractions. You feel like watching a movie, read a favourite web site, sleep a little, play a game. But that's your problem. Even in video camera cubicle style you can find distractions and still pretend to work. Or (if you are not a bachelor or you live with your mother) you have to fight for your quiet time (which makes it un-quiet in the first place). Second of all, I live in Romania. Here having a home when you are young means that someone in your family died or you are renting. You don't have a back room, you have a two room apartment and one of them is a bedroom. You don't work on the computer, you use the only one you have and thus deprive any other person of it. You don't tell the wife to wait until 6 pm like she normally would, because normally she would play on the computer all day long or sit and relax without you. And while you are at the office, her emotional need to interact with you is only appeased by the cell phone, which normally annoys the hell out of you. Having you at home is like having a child next to the candy and slapping it on the hand when he tries to eat it. Luckily, I don't have children and if I am lucky enough I will never have. If I would believe in God I would pray for sterility. But I have a cat. Try explaining to the cat that the keyboard should stay on your knees. So there. If you want to have a virtual company, you should keep your company virtual. :->
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karthik Tamizhmathi wrote:
60% more productive than a regular conventional working culture".
I get about 75% of my work for the day done before the boss and coworkers get there. Or on Saturdays. I come in early just to get work done. My boss always wants to “help” or send other’s over to “help” because that’s how he does his best work. I do best alone, no interruptions. My boss has “helped” me all day on problems I’ll get it done within an hour after he leaves. Or a problems others have been working a month on, I’ll get done, by myself, on a weekend. We haven’t moved into the ‘90’s yet so there is no telecommuting at my place so I don’t know how work from home does. But I know if no one’s around, I get the job done. I would love to see how it works to work from home. Joe Q
In your case, I believe you could work for more than one company from home. You are obviously talented enought to take on many problems and confident to solve them. What would it cost to setup a room in your house to commute in technology methods "beyond 2000"? and then have a guess what you would make Freelancing. Don't forget... E=mc2 :-D In Australia, there are heaps of job agencies that like freelancers and at good rates too. Anyway, your current company could be your first client, you would be doing their Payroll department a favour by starting on your own... you Invoice them, they pay, simple :cool: They don't have to worry about holidays, sick leave, RDO's, insurance, Pay slips, Super-annuation etc... Your leaving them (sort of leaving) could seem a threat to them; that's where your communication skills would come in, need to cut them a deal that they understand, and one they feel comfortable with :-> If it's your dream, then make it True.
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Life should be about balancing, Freelancing needs balance, (and realizing) the things we want/like. Our wants and likes change over time, however some people "lose themselves" by concentrating on one "Like", not so good. Regarding productiveness, we must not always do the things we like the most, or else you become a "junkie" (they're not productive) Even if you are a Work Junkie, you would be draining yourself of real Life. Being able to play games to satisfy your your want/likes is good, but obviously we need to balance. Working from home is good for those who can control themselves and realize the balance they wish to achieve. I find it hard to not play games sometimes, as I need to catch up with work etc... but it's something I need to do as a Freelancer to make sure everything is "on track". On the other hand, I've seen people work for companies where they spend all their "after hours" playing games or having fun another way, they are basically on holidays heh :), that's ok if you are not planning much for your life, but as a Freelancer you are more compelled to excel which is what I like about it. Always pushing limits, and jumping into the unknown instead of just cruising by saying "i wanna do this and that"... but never doing it :doh:. most of us say we are too tired to do things for ourselves due to hours working for another company (?) and time spent commuting! :~ Bottom line is, Freelancing means Freedom. You choose, what you choose determines where you will get. You want to be more productive, then you can, just concentrate on it. If there is something stoping you, learn to control it, or find a way around it. Your rules, your space.:-> Damn, :doh: is that the time(?)! need to get back to work :laugh:
Oops Mindflow I was too busy today. Damn your message looks like a voice from above... :-D..Nice one I'd reply you soon. getting back to work now. take care :beer:
--[:jig:]-- [My Current Status] Link2006 wrote:Let's take it outside of CP Jeremy : Please don't.I would love to see this.I'm making the popcorn already.
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In your case, I believe you could work for more than one company from home. You are obviously talented enought to take on many problems and confident to solve them. What would it cost to setup a room in your house to commute in technology methods "beyond 2000"? and then have a guess what you would make Freelancing. Don't forget... E=mc2 :-D In Australia, there are heaps of job agencies that like freelancers and at good rates too. Anyway, your current company could be your first client, you would be doing their Payroll department a favour by starting on your own... you Invoice them, they pay, simple :cool: They don't have to worry about holidays, sick leave, RDO's, insurance, Pay slips, Super-annuation etc... Your leaving them (sort of leaving) could seem a threat to them; that's where your communication skills would come in, need to cut them a deal that they understand, and one they feel comfortable with :-> If it's your dream, then make it True.
Mindflow wrote:
Anyway, your current company could be your first client, you would be doing their Payroll department a favour by starting on your own... you Invoice them, they pay,
Unfortunatly, there have been MANY people in the past who saw they could do what this place does in specific niches. They would leave, do the same job for less than it cost the company to do it internally but still make a lot of money off of it. So now they have policies in place so that they can't accept a bid from a company started by a person who quit, who is in the leadership of a company, or a family member of someone who quit for 2 years after they quit. So you can't do that. :( Until my kids get out of college, I'm probably going to stay where I am, find a quite place and do a good job.
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Well, first of all, working at home means you are relaxed (see underpants :omg:) you don't waste time doing the unnecessary work like getting dressed, ready for work, move to the work place, come from the work place, eat only once or twice a day. If you are also a bachelor, you don't need to clean yourself in any way until you finish your software and then a bath is like a reward (see training dogs :laugh:). The problems with working at home are all linked to distractions. You feel like watching a movie, read a favourite web site, sleep a little, play a game. But that's your problem. Even in video camera cubicle style you can find distractions and still pretend to work. Or (if you are not a bachelor or you live with your mother) you have to fight for your quiet time (which makes it un-quiet in the first place). Second of all, I live in Romania. Here having a home when you are young means that someone in your family died or you are renting. You don't have a back room, you have a two room apartment and one of them is a bedroom. You don't work on the computer, you use the only one you have and thus deprive any other person of it. You don't tell the wife to wait until 6 pm like she normally would, because normally she would play on the computer all day long or sit and relax without you. And while you are at the office, her emotional need to interact with you is only appeased by the cell phone, which normally annoys the hell out of you. Having you at home is like having a child next to the candy and slapping it on the hand when he tries to eat it. Luckily, I don't have children and if I am lucky enough I will never have. If I would believe in God I would pray for sterility. But I have a cat. Try explaining to the cat that the keyboard should stay on your knees. So there. If you want to have a virtual company, you should keep your company virtual. :->
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