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    Lost User
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    I sure hope that this never gets put into people's computers. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html[^]

    static int Sqrt(int x) { if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:

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      I sure hope that this never gets put into people's computers. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html[^]

      static int Sqrt(int x) { if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:

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      Allah On Acid
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      If companies want to sell that kind of operating system, it is their right. And people can choose not to buy stupid shit like that.

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        If companies want to sell that kind of operating system, it is their right. And people can choose not to buy stupid shit like that.

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        Lost User
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        But what if it is Windows that uses it and the media portrays it as a wonderful thing.

        static int Sqrt(int x) { if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:

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          I sure hope that this never gets put into people's computers. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html[^]

          static int Sqrt(int x) { if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:

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          Christian Graus
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          Henize wrote:

          http://www.gnu.org/

          Gee - who'd have thought they would be the ones publishing this drivel. Oh no, I can't see the source code for my OS. How terrible !!! Movie companies want people to pay to download movies - what a catastrophe !!!! Give me a break.

          Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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            I sure hope that this never gets put into people's computers. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html[^]

            static int Sqrt(int x) { if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:

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            RoswellNX
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            sounds like it's time for him [the author] to put down his model airplane glue:rolleyes:...i mean he has some good points, but i think the whole article is a bit over the top... There will be always people writing cracks for software and using hardware firewalls to filter traffic...total control is impossible But on the other hand if he would have written that about AOL, i would agree with it...everyone using the AOL browser gets boatloads of spyware and just keeps pouring in from their server while teh AOL security tools tell you it's an all-clear...running spybot-s&d and Adaware usually finds them though.... Roswell

            "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
            Antonio VillaRaigosa
            City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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              Henize wrote:

              http://www.gnu.org/

              Gee - who'd have thought they would be the ones publishing this drivel. Oh no, I can't see the source code for my OS. How terrible !!! Movie companies want people to pay to download movies - what a catastrophe !!!! Give me a break.

              Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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              Lost User
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              The artical said

              Programs that use treacherous computing will continually download new authorization rules through the Internet, and impose those rules automatically on your work. If Microsoft, or the US government, does not like what you said in a document you wrote, they could post new instructions telling all computers to refuse to let anyone read that document. Each computer would obey when it downloads the new instructions. Your writing would be subject to 1984-style retroactive erasure. You might be unable to read it yourself.

              Think about the evils that can be done with TRM. Think more thoroughly about things and you will notice a lot more about everything.

              static int Sqrt(int x) { if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:

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                I sure hope that this never gets put into people's computers. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html[^]

                static int Sqrt(int x) { if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:

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                AbhishekBK
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                Henize wrote:

                What do you people think of this?

                What the hell. It is fantastic how this thing is going. RMS wants to throw Microsoft out of business, and he is screaming about them. I just wonder if this is really freedom. He wants everybody to have software that works like they really do, but he doesent want people to do business like they want to. Is this freedom or only chutzpa.

                Abhishek It is impossible to change your past. But it is very possible to ruin your present by worring about the future. -Chankya

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                • L Lost User

                  I sure hope that this never gets put into people's computers. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html[^]

                  static int Sqrt(int x) { if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:

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                  Sean Cundiff
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                  Richard Stallman is the next Ted Kaczynski. The dude is a malcontent freak.

                  -Sean ---- Shag a Lizard

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                    The artical said

                    Programs that use treacherous computing will continually download new authorization rules through the Internet, and impose those rules automatically on your work. If Microsoft, or the US government, does not like what you said in a document you wrote, they could post new instructions telling all computers to refuse to let anyone read that document. Each computer would obey when it downloads the new instructions. Your writing would be subject to 1984-style retroactive erasure. You might be unable to read it yourself.

                    Think about the evils that can be done with TRM. Think more thoroughly about things and you will notice a lot more about everything.

                    static int Sqrt(int x) { if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:

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                    RoswellNX
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                    Henize wrote:

                    Think about the evils that can be done with TRM. Think more thoroughly about things and you will notice a lot more about everything.

                    One conspiracy theorist exposed, 20 more to go Roswell:|

                    "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
                    Antonio VillaRaigosa
                    City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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                    • L Lost User

                      The artical said

                      Programs that use treacherous computing will continually download new authorization rules through the Internet, and impose those rules automatically on your work. If Microsoft, or the US government, does not like what you said in a document you wrote, they could post new instructions telling all computers to refuse to let anyone read that document. Each computer would obey when it downloads the new instructions. Your writing would be subject to 1984-style retroactive erasure. You might be unable to read it yourself.

                      Think about the evils that can be done with TRM. Think more thoroughly about things and you will notice a lot more about everything.

                      static int Sqrt(int x) { if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:

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                      Christian Graus
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                      Henize wrote:

                      Think about the evils that can be done with TRM.

                      Your government has an army . Think of the evil a government can do with an army. Does that mean they can't have one ?

                      Henize wrote:

                      Think more thoroughly about things and you will notice a lot more about everything.

                      I think you mean 'wear a tin foil hat'.... The tone of the article was building from what it regards as present day evils, and all of them related to software not being open source, and people who create intellectual property getting paid. Oh, or people who use download programs for piracy getting a little of what they deserve as a result.

                      Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                        Henize wrote:

                        Think about the evils that can be done with TRM. Think more thoroughly about things and you will notice a lot more about everything.

                        One conspiracy theorist exposed, 20 more to go Roswell:|

                        "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
                        Antonio VillaRaigosa
                        City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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                        Christian Graus
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                        ROTFL. The big question is - who is apparently going to be employed to read all my documents, and how will they stop what I said from being disseminated over the web, even if they can stop a specific Word doc from being loadable ? It's just plain silly.

                        Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                          Henize wrote:

                          Think about the evils that can be done with TRM. Think more thoroughly about things and you will notice a lot more about everything.

                          One conspiracy theorist exposed, 20 more to go Roswell:|

                          "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
                          Antonio VillaRaigosa
                          City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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                          Lost User
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                          RoswellNX wrote:

                          One conspiracy theorist exposed, 20 more to go

                          Its good to theorize, even when it seems crazy because it can happen and bad things can be prevented becuase of it.

                          static int Sqrt(int x) { if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:

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                            Henize wrote:

                            Think about the evils that can be done with TRM.

                            Your government has an army . Think of the evil a government can do with an army. Does that mean they can't have one ?

                            Henize wrote:

                            Think more thoroughly about things and you will notice a lot more about everything.

                            I think you mean 'wear a tin foil hat'.... The tone of the article was building from what it regards as present day evils, and all of them related to software not being open source, and people who create intellectual property getting paid. Oh, or people who use download programs for piracy getting a little of what they deserve as a result.

                            Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                            Lost User
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                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            Your government has an army . Think of the evil a government can do with an army.

                            Indeed.

                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            I think you mean 'wear a tin foil hat'....

                            No, just stop and think for a while. Its like programming, you think you have something that works until you find bugs that you never thought were possible!!!

                            static int Sqrt(int x) { if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:

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                              I sure hope that this never gets put into people's computers. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html[^]

                              static int Sqrt(int x) { if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:

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                              Polymorpher
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                              I think if that happens then I will be left behind in the stone age because I will disconect from the net and use a pirated version of all of the old software LOL

                              Pablo Sometimes I think there's no reason to get out of bed . . . then I feel wet, and I realize there is.

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                                ROTFL. The big question is - who is apparently going to be employed to read all my documents, and how will they stop what I said from being disseminated over the web, even if they can stop a specific Word doc from being loadable ? It's just plain silly.

                                Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                                Polymorpher
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                                The problem I see is them forcing you to allow them this ability...There will always be hackers, and with enought time and patients...access to control every computer running this operating system.

                                Pablo Sometimes I think there's no reason to get out of bed . . . then I feel wet, and I realize there is.

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                                • C Christian Graus

                                  Henize wrote:

                                  http://www.gnu.org/

                                  Gee - who'd have thought they would be the ones publishing this drivel. Oh no, I can't see the source code for my OS. How terrible !!! Movie companies want people to pay to download movies - what a catastrophe !!!! Give me a break.

                                  Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                                  Siderite Zaqwedex
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                                  So if you automatically discard the validity of the article, should others do the same to your comment, because you're a Microsoft MVP?

                                  ---------- Siderite

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                                    I sure hope that this never gets put into people's computers. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html[^]

                                    static int Sqrt(int x) { if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg:

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                                    Siderite Zaqwedex
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                                    I believe no one will implement this because of two reasons. The first is that there is an alternative. No matter how some Windows zealots feel about Linux or how little you know about it or how good or bad it is, the fact that it's there changes the things Microsoft dares do. If there were no Linux, this discussion would not even take place. It would be copyrighted or something :) The second reason is that even the legislators (including some pretty secretive and paranoid people, so... legislators even more than other people) want control over their computer and what it does. It is my belief that after a few weeks or months of trial, the technology would be outlawed as spyware is now. So, to conclude, I am not paranoid, I let people abuse me ocasionally, I am to lazy to take action most of the time and I feel good about myself, but I am surely glad some people are not like me.

                                    ---------- Siderite

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                                      I think if that happens then I will be left behind in the stone age because I will disconect from the net and use a pirated version of all of the old software LOL

                                      Pablo Sometimes I think there's no reason to get out of bed . . . then I feel wet, and I realize there is.

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                                      GaryWoodfine
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                                      I would be worried about this, but to be honest the chances of microsoft getting something like this WORKING are very slim. We have this kind of issue with MS software all along, this is nothing new! Not being able to see the source code of my PC, is not a real issue to me, but the fact that I can still crack it is!! Software being what it is, there will always be a back door.


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                                        So if you automatically discard the validity of the article, should others do the same to your comment, because you're a Microsoft MVP?

                                        ---------- Siderite

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                                        Dave Sexton
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                                        Siderite Zaqwedex wrote:

                                        So if you automatically discard the validity of the article, should others do the same to your comment, because you're a Microsoft MVP?

                                        I fail to see how his MVP status has anything to do with it. That article was written either by an overly paranoid user or someone who is desperately trying to promote Linux through the use of scare tactics (which may work on your average Joe Public but is less likely to affect the techy types that hang out here). I hold no MVP and think it's bull. Now, does that making me a sheep or demonstrate that the capacity for reasonable thought, not believing everything I read on the internet?


                                        don't believe everything that you breathe
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                                          Siderite Zaqwedex wrote:

                                          So if you automatically discard the validity of the article, should others do the same to your comment, because you're a Microsoft MVP?

                                          I fail to see how his MVP status has anything to do with it. That article was written either by an overly paranoid user or someone who is desperately trying to promote Linux through the use of scare tactics (which may work on your average Joe Public but is less likely to affect the techy types that hang out here). I hold no MVP and think it's bull. Now, does that making me a sheep or demonstrate that the capacity for reasonable thought, not believing everything I read on the internet?


                                          don't believe everything that you breathe
                                          you get a parking violation and a maggot on your sleeve...
                                          - Beck:Loser

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                                          Siderite Zaqwedex
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                                          What I was protesting to was using the name of the site where the article was posted as an argument on discarding its message. That you think the article is crap is a personal opinion, but to label everything at gnu.org as crap is the same thing Linux users do when they say everything Micro$oft is evil. I don't condone either practice.

                                          ---------- Siderite

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