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  • P peterchen

    I didn't know that Falun Gong is prosecuted in Singapore, too. To please the Chinese, they say, ahh that certainly makes sense :mad: What do you think about these Falung Gong people? They are usually portrayed as humble and nice people that want to meditate now and then, hunted by the big evil Leviathan. But sometimes it appears they are more busy with exposing that ugly hunt instead of meditating. And I'm very very suspicous :)


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    Weiye Chen
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    peterchen wrote:

    What do you think about these Falung Gong people?

    I dont know much about their teachings or character of them. I am just feeling unjust for them. What they did is legal. I dont know why the government can stood so low to ignore the facts and even compromise the legal system, just to please China. Even the local media dont provide much coverage on this.

    Weiye Chen Time may have changed my life, but my heart remains the same to you... Time may have changed my heart, but my love for you never change...

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    • P peterchen

      Freedom doesn't come from the government, nor can it be without it (unless you live alone)


      We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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      Rob Graham
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      peterchen wrote:

      Freedom doesn't come from the government,

      No, but governments can destroy Freedom, and usually do if left to their own.

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      • R Rob Graham

        peterchen wrote:

        Freedom doesn't come from the government,

        No, but governments can destroy Freedom, and usually do if left to their own.

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        KaRl
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        That's why 'Democracy' was invented.


        We're the regulators that de-regulate We're the animators that de-animate

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        • W Weiye Chen

          Singapore Locks Rights Lawyer up in Mental Hospital[^] Doubts Raised About Singapore Legal System[^] I have done my part at the last elections, but apparently 2/3 of the voters are still dreaming. :|

          Weiye Chen Time may have changed my life, but my heart remains the same to you... Time may have changed my heart, but my love for you never change...

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          abc
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          It doesn't make too much sense. Why would Singapore try to please the Chinese on this matter? They have been making the Chinese angry on all the other things including their (military) relationship with Taiwan. Falun Gong is known to make up and exagerate things to get publicity. Last time a Falun Gong member was attacked in South Africa, they claimed the attacker was hired by Chinese government. It turns out a few more chinese were attacked just before that and the Chinese Consulate had issued warnings to all chinese citizens living there.

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          • K KaRl

            That's why 'Democracy' was invented.


            We're the regulators that de-regulate We're the animators that de-animate

            Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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            TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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            K(arl) wrote:

            Democracy

            Democracy is merely mob rule. Freedom comes from within and must be defended by the individual or groups of like-minded individuals. ALL Governments, including the US Gov't, are the enemy of freedom.

            Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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            • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

              K(arl) wrote:

              Democracy

              Democracy is merely mob rule. Freedom comes from within and must be defended by the individual or groups of like-minded individuals. ALL Governments, including the US Gov't, are the enemy of freedom.

              Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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              Lost User
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              ahz wrote:

              ALL Governments, including the US Gov't, are the enemy of freedom.

              Thank God there are people who understand!!:-D

              =====Brain melting code===== static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg: ====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73";

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              • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                K(arl) wrote:

                Democracy

                Democracy is merely mob rule. Freedom comes from within and must be defended by the individual or groups of like-minded individuals. ALL Governments, including the US Gov't, are the enemy of freedom.

                Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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                KaRl
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                ahz wrote:

                Democracy is merely mob rule.

                BS.

                ahz wrote:

                Freedom comes from within and must be defended by the individual or groups of like-minded individuals.

                Freedom cannot be defined outside the concept of society.


                We're the regulators that de-regulate We're the animators that de-animate

                Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                • W Weiye Chen

                  Singapore Locks Rights Lawyer up in Mental Hospital[^] Doubts Raised About Singapore Legal System[^] I have done my part at the last elections, but apparently 2/3 of the voters are still dreaming. :|

                  Weiye Chen Time may have changed my life, but my heart remains the same to you... Time may have changed my heart, but my love for you never change...

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                  Chris Austin
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                  No need to be ashamed. I (hope) think that most people are intelligent enough to understand that a politicans actions are almost never the will of the people. Personally, I given up on the forms of governance that seem popular around the world. :( It seems there hasn't been any real advancement in a long time. Just calling the same old things by a different name and putting a new spin on it. I am not yet unconvinced that politicans are the worst of us.

                  Hey don't worry, I can handle it. I took something. I can see things no one else can see. Why are you dressed like that? - Jack Burton

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                  • K KaRl

                    ahz wrote:

                    Democracy is merely mob rule.

                    BS.

                    ahz wrote:

                    Freedom comes from within and must be defended by the individual or groups of like-minded individuals.

                    Freedom cannot be defined outside the concept of society.


                    We're the regulators that de-regulate We're the animators that de-animate

                    Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                    K(arl) wrote:

                    BS.

                    You are welcome to your opinion, but it's irrelevant to the truth of what Democracy is.

                    K(arl) wrote:

                    Freedom cannot be defined outside the concept of society.

                    Freedom is a universal, inalienable, unalterable truth. It is what it is and needs no definition by you or anyone else nor does it depend on some society to have a definition or place. It's true that your freedom can be taken away, or diminished, but it can't be granted it can only be abrogated by unrighteous dominion.

                    Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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                    • R Rob Graham

                      peterchen wrote:

                      Freedom doesn't come from the government,

                      No, but governments can destroy Freedom, and usually do if left to their own.

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                      peterchen
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                      The point is: "de-governmenting" will destroy freedom as quickly.


                      We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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                      • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                        K(arl) wrote:

                        BS.

                        You are welcome to your opinion, but it's irrelevant to the truth of what Democracy is.

                        K(arl) wrote:

                        Freedom cannot be defined outside the concept of society.

                        Freedom is a universal, inalienable, unalterable truth. It is what it is and needs no definition by you or anyone else nor does it depend on some society to have a definition or place. It's true that your freedom can be taken away, or diminished, but it can't be granted it can only be abrogated by unrighteous dominion.

                        Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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                        KaRl
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                        ahz wrote:

                        the truth of what Democracy is.

                        The worst system, except for all the others.

                        ahz wrote:

                        Freedom is a universal, inalienable, unalterable truth

                        It is universal, inalienable all right but Freedom can be conceived only in the concept of society, or it has no meaning. Freedom is by definition what the Individual can do in the context of leaving with others. And the exercise of the natural rights of each man has no limits except those which assure to the other members of the society the enjoyment of the same rights.


                        We're the regulators that de-regulate We're the animators that de-animate

                        Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                        • K KaRl

                          ahz wrote:

                          the truth of what Democracy is.

                          The worst system, except for all the others.

                          ahz wrote:

                          Freedom is a universal, inalienable, unalterable truth

                          It is universal, inalienable all right but Freedom can be conceived only in the concept of society, or it has no meaning. Freedom is by definition what the Individual can do in the context of leaving with others. And the exercise of the natural rights of each man has no limits except those which assure to the other members of the society the enjoyment of the same rights.


                          We're the regulators that de-regulate We're the animators that de-animate

                          Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                          Yes, finally you are getting somewhere...

                          Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay

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