People actually do fall for those Nigerian scams!
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That is messed up. I wonder how stupid you have to be to fall for something like that? As far as the child melesters go they need to be beatin and spit on and degraded until they feel like the shit they are. In jail they will be raped and then they will understand what they were doing to the kids(if they dont already) X|
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I wonder how stupid you have to be to fall for something like that
Perhaps not stupid, but rather desperate, lonely, looking for that fairy tale to come true. But yeah, stupid too. Marc
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That is messed up. I wonder how stupid you have to be to fall for something like that? As far as the child melesters go they need to be beatin and spit on and degraded until they feel like the shit they are. In jail they will be raped and then they will understand what they were doing to the kids(if they dont already) X|
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melesters
I have never heard of a melester. What is that? :rolleyes:
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During my time of unemployment I have become addicted to trashy daytime television including the Dr. Phil show. Today they had women who had fallen for men over the internet and WAIT! they need money to get back to the United States, so could you please send me some? This one guy said he was from Buffalo, NY and they talked on the phone. You could obviously tell the guy had a west African accent. She sent money for a ticket, and even waited at the airport and WAIT! the guy didn't show up. Later the "hospital" called to tell her that he was in a coma and could you please send money for his expenses. She said she didn't have anymore money. But then they called back because WAIT! he suddenly woke from his coma screaming her name! Oh, the love between them! Just as good as Days of Our Lives! (BTW, after 15 years they felt the need to bring back Patch and Kayla. Good lord.) They had to have a private investigator give her the (obvious) evidence that it was all a scam. At the end of it, I really couldn't feel sorry for the 'victims.' On another note, I'm glad I don't have kids. On Oprah they had tricks that pedophiles use to seduce kids. This guy from the FBI infiltrated NAMBLA for 3 years and it was so sick some of the stuff these guys say and do. (For example, I guy at the park was watching a girl of about 5 doing cartwheels and he thought this was her way of seducing him. Skin now crawling.) All you parents keep your kids safe.
My daughter knows where to kick anyone who comes near her. While it *is* sick, I think those sort of shows can provide information out of context - that is, a lot of people probably worry more than they should, given what I hope is a very low likelihood of even being near someone so sick. Sure, my kids know what to do, and they know they can talk to us, but it's not something I worry about from day to day. On the Nigerian stuff - of course it works. All spam works, or they would stop doing it. Human greed is pretty universal, and so is stupidity, sadly.
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Henize wrote:
I wonder how stupid you have to be to fall for something like that
Perhaps not stupid, but rather desperate, lonely, looking for that fairy tale to come true. But yeah, stupid too. Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithI think there's some truth to this, which brings up another topic for debate. Do all those porn sites, especially those that contain young adults, and possibly children, contribute to these types of people thinking that this is not abnormal behavior, and that many people actually do partake of this kind of activity? I've heard of studies indicating there's no connection, but that's hard for me to believe. Mitch
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I think there's some truth to this, which brings up another topic for debate. Do all those porn sites, especially those that contain young adults, and possibly children, contribute to these types of people thinking that this is not abnormal behavior, and that many people actually do partake of this kind of activity? I've heard of studies indicating there's no connection, but that's hard for me to believe. Mitch
Mitchel Haas wrote:
I've heard of studies indicating there's no connection, but that's hard for me to believe.
Porn sites leading to Nigerian scams... A crazy theory maybe, but one i can get behind! :D
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Mitchel Haas wrote:
I've heard of studies indicating there's no connection, but that's hard for me to believe.
Porn sites leading to Nigerian scams... A crazy theory maybe, but one i can get behind! :D
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I think there's some truth to this, which brings up another topic for debate. Do all those porn sites, especially those that contain young adults, and possibly children, contribute to these types of people thinking that this is not abnormal behavior, and that many people actually do partake of this kind of activity? I've heard of studies indicating there's no connection, but that's hard for me to believe. Mitch
I think one of the contributors could be kids clothing. While do so many pairs of shorts/trousers for young girls (even 2/3 year olds) have things like "Angel" printed on across their bottoms in glittery writing? Why is attention drawn to this area of a child? Even on 12 year olds it just seems wrong - but on toddlers? Part of me would love my next child to be a daughter, but part of me is terrified of the possibility. In today's fashion crazy world very young kids walk around in tank tops and miniskirts, on the kids clothing catalogues they pout with their makeup smeared faces and seem to be trying to convey the message of being sexy. What ever happened to little girls in shorts and normal t-shirts having fun learning about mud and nature alongside the boys?
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I guess my thoughts were drifting a little, more about the tragedy in Colorado, and the mindset of people like that killer. Mitch
Mitchel Haas wrote:
the tragedy in Colorado
Yeah... that's grim. I don't know that i'd care to speculate on what his mindset was at this point though. But sure enough, the local news is promising more "disturbing details". At least i recorded it on DVR, and can skip past to the weather report if it amounts to no more than pure ghoulish speculation... which it probably will. :sigh:
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I think one of the contributors could be kids clothing. While do so many pairs of shorts/trousers for young girls (even 2/3 year olds) have things like "Angel" printed on across their bottoms in glittery writing? Why is attention drawn to this area of a child? Even on 12 year olds it just seems wrong - but on toddlers? Part of me would love my next child to be a daughter, but part of me is terrified of the possibility. In today's fashion crazy world very young kids walk around in tank tops and miniskirts, on the kids clothing catalogues they pout with their makeup smeared faces and seem to be trying to convey the message of being sexy. What ever happened to little girls in shorts and normal t-shirts having fun learning about mud and nature alongside the boys?
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Megan Forbes wrote:
What ever happened to little girls in shorts and normal t-shirts having fun learning about mud and nature alongside the boys?
What ever happened to parents caring more about their children's education - scholastic and other - than their... "social status"?
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I think one of the contributors could be kids clothing. While do so many pairs of shorts/trousers for young girls (even 2/3 year olds) have things like "Angel" printed on across their bottoms in glittery writing? Why is attention drawn to this area of a child? Even on 12 year olds it just seems wrong - but on toddlers? Part of me would love my next child to be a daughter, but part of me is terrified of the possibility. In today's fashion crazy world very young kids walk around in tank tops and miniskirts, on the kids clothing catalogues they pout with their makeup smeared faces and seem to be trying to convey the message of being sexy. What ever happened to little girls in shorts and normal t-shirts having fun learning about mud and nature alongside the boys?
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Megan Forbes wrote:
What ever happened to little girls in shorts and normal t-shirts having fun learning about mud and nature alongside the boys?
When I was in elementery school I remember it being that way. As I got older I noticed that the kids that were in my previous grade would seem much older and more crazy than me and my class were in that grade. Its like a kid a year younger is in a different generation and the generations devolve after each one. I hope that made since:confused:.
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I think one of the contributors could be kids clothing. While do so many pairs of shorts/trousers for young girls (even 2/3 year olds) have things like "Angel" printed on across their bottoms in glittery writing? Why is attention drawn to this area of a child? Even on 12 year olds it just seems wrong - but on toddlers? Part of me would love my next child to be a daughter, but part of me is terrified of the possibility. In today's fashion crazy world very young kids walk around in tank tops and miniskirts, on the kids clothing catalogues they pout with their makeup smeared faces and seem to be trying to convey the message of being sexy. What ever happened to little girls in shorts and normal t-shirts having fun learning about mud and nature alongside the boys?
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Megan Forbes wrote:
I think one of the contributors could be kids clothing.
Right on! And to diverge even further, also the way the media presents attitudes about sex. Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith -
I think one of the contributors could be kids clothing. While do so many pairs of shorts/trousers for young girls (even 2/3 year olds) have things like "Angel" printed on across their bottoms in glittery writing? Why is attention drawn to this area of a child? Even on 12 year olds it just seems wrong - but on toddlers? Part of me would love my next child to be a daughter, but part of me is terrified of the possibility. In today's fashion crazy world very young kids walk around in tank tops and miniskirts, on the kids clothing catalogues they pout with their makeup smeared faces and seem to be trying to convey the message of being sexy. What ever happened to little girls in shorts and normal t-shirts having fun learning about mud and nature alongside the boys?
A mum and loving it! My (very young) blog[^]
Agreed - in fact, there used to be a sector of fashion - 8-13 year olds. This no longer exists. Your 8 year old is dressed like your 15 year old, and if your 15 year old is fashionable, she's probably dressed like a tramp.
Megan Forbes wrote:
What ever happened to little girls in shorts and normal t-shirts having fun learning about mud and nature alongside the boys?
You're living in a dream world, even the boys don't do that nowadays. They are on the internet, learning about 'nature', or playing video games. I recommend a book by Neil Postman, whose name escapes me, could be 'the end of childhood'. I don't think it is, I think he has one called 'the end of education', which probably raises similar points, but I do believe he has another book dedicated to the end of childhood as a construct.
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I think one of the contributors could be kids clothing. While do so many pairs of shorts/trousers for young girls (even 2/3 year olds) have things like "Angel" printed on across their bottoms in glittery writing? Why is attention drawn to this area of a child? Even on 12 year olds it just seems wrong - but on toddlers? Part of me would love my next child to be a daughter, but part of me is terrified of the possibility. In today's fashion crazy world very young kids walk around in tank tops and miniskirts, on the kids clothing catalogues they pout with their makeup smeared faces and seem to be trying to convey the message of being sexy. What ever happened to little girls in shorts and normal t-shirts having fun learning about mud and nature alongside the boys?
A mum and loving it! My (very young) blog[^]
Agreed. I work with kids all the time (I run a youth group at my church), and some of the clothes the little ones are wearing just make me shake my head in disbelief. And it's not as if the kids can do anything about it, it's all up to the parents. Appropriate clothes are out there if they look hard enough...
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Mitchel Haas wrote:
the tragedy in Colorado
Yeah... that's grim. I don't know that i'd care to speculate on what his mindset was at this point though. But sure enough, the local news is promising more "disturbing details". At least i recorded it on DVR, and can skip past to the weather report if it amounts to no more than pure ghoulish speculation... which it probably will. :sigh:
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Shog9 wrote:
the local news is promising more "disturbing details
The news nowadays is just another form of pornography.
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I think there's some truth to this, which brings up another topic for debate. Do all those porn sites, especially those that contain young adults, and possibly children, contribute to these types of people thinking that this is not abnormal behavior, and that many people actually do partake of this kind of activity? I've heard of studies indicating there's no connection, but that's hard for me to believe. Mitch
Mitchel Haas wrote:
Do all those porn sites, especially those that contain young adults, and possibly children, contribute to these types of people thinking that this is not abnormal behavior, and that many people actually do partake of this kind of activity?
I think, fundamentally, what is missing is a sense of morality. Morality should not be defined by what *appears* to be appropriate in society, but by a deeper inner sense that is independent of society. There will always be immoral elements of society, but if we have our own sense of morality, then we can be less influenced by society. And there will always be people who have no personal sense of morality, and these people need our help.
Mitchel Haas wrote:
I've heard of studies indicating there's no connection, but that's hard for me to believe.
I think any study that "proves" that immoral social attitudes do not result in individual immoral behaviors is, frankly, flawed. There's been numerous studies showing that children who watch violence on TV are more violent. The mantra had my girlfriend's daycare (a mainstream daycare, BTW) from all the teachers is "I hate the TV" because they have to deal with the daily behavioral issues resulting from children (2-5 year olds) exhibit from imitating what they see on TV. Is imitation restricted to the domain of children? Certainly not. Most adults are children, just bigger. Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith -
I think there's some truth to this, which brings up another topic for debate. Do all those porn sites, especially those that contain young adults, and possibly children, contribute to these types of people thinking that this is not abnormal behavior, and that many people actually do partake of this kind of activity? I've heard of studies indicating there's no connection, but that's hard for me to believe. Mitch
Mitchel Haas wrote:
Do all those porn sites, especially those that contain young adults, and possibly children,
I assume that none of us have been surfing for kiddie pron. I doubt much of it exists at the level of websites, certainly whenever there's a bust, it appears to be of a mailing list, not a site. A site has to collect money to be worth running. That creates a trail. I doubt you could google for kiddie porn and find much. Not that I've tried, obviously.
Mitchel Haas wrote:
contribute to these types of people thinking that this is not abnormal behavior,
I doubt it. You can show me all the gay porn you like ( well, I'd prefer you didn't ), and I guarentee you it won't change my preference. I'm sure there needs to be something wrong to start with, for people to even look into that sort of thing. Of course, if they then DO interfere with a child, it's likely to be something that gets worse and worse.
Mitchel Haas wrote:
I've heard of studies indicating there's no connection, but that's hard for me to believe.
How does one do a study, except through talking to people already in jail ? One surely cannot show people illegal images and ask if it gives them illegal urges ? I'd say any study is bogus and limited, but I'd still say that I would doubt the correlation. You and I don't have those urges, and we're sure not going to look for those sort of images, the idea is sickening. People who are looking for them, already have something wrong with them mentally.
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Mitchel Haas wrote:
Do all those porn sites, especially those that contain young adults, and possibly children, contribute to these types of people thinking that this is not abnormal behavior, and that many people actually do partake of this kind of activity?
I think, fundamentally, what is missing is a sense of morality. Morality should not be defined by what *appears* to be appropriate in society, but by a deeper inner sense that is independent of society. There will always be immoral elements of society, but if we have our own sense of morality, then we can be less influenced by society. And there will always be people who have no personal sense of morality, and these people need our help.
Mitchel Haas wrote:
I've heard of studies indicating there's no connection, but that's hard for me to believe.
I think any study that "proves" that immoral social attitudes do not result in individual immoral behaviors is, frankly, flawed. There's been numerous studies showing that children who watch violence on TV are more violent. The mantra had my girlfriend's daycare (a mainstream daycare, BTW) from all the teachers is "I hate the TV" because they have to deal with the daily behavioral issues resulting from children (2-5 year olds) exhibit from imitating what they see on TV. Is imitation restricted to the domain of children? Certainly not. Most adults are children, just bigger. Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithMarc Clifton wrote:
I think, fundamentally, what is missing is a sense of morality.
Yeah, I would tend to agree. The overall idea that there's a right thing to do is not that popular these days.
Marc Clifton wrote:
I think any study that "proves" that immoral social attitudes do not result in individual immoral behaviors is, frankly, flawed.
You're probably right, certainly I agree with the TV thing, I've seen it in my son. But, while attitudes towards sex in general may be formed by the media, I don't think that our orientation can be changed by the media ( although I think for girls it can at least a bit, sometimes, I've noticed that womens media sells bisexuality pretty hard ). So, I think the media can have a very peverse effect - it can make people prone to more immoral behaviour bolder as a result of the internet giving them the chance to affirm that others have the same attitude, which can only cause atrophy in society as a whole. But, I think this will result in more irresponsible behaviour that's in line with a person's orientation, it won't change it.
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Agreed. I work with kids all the time (I run a youth group at my church), and some of the clothes the little ones are wearing just make me shake my head in disbelief. And it's not as if the kids can do anything about it, it's all up to the parents. Appropriate clothes are out there if they look hard enough...
Ryan Binns wrote:
And it's not as if the kids can do anything about it, it's all up to the parents. Appropriate clothes are out there if they look hard enough...
Not quite Ryan. After a year at preschool or kindergarten the kids already know what brands and styles they want to wear. And they go out of their way to get it.
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Ryan Binns wrote:
And it's not as if the kids can do anything about it, it's all up to the parents. Appropriate clothes are out there if they look hard enough...
Not quite Ryan. After a year at preschool or kindergarten the kids already know what brands and styles they want to wear. And they go out of their way to get it.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
Well, that's true, but you could always give them the option of going nekkid and see what they do
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Ryan Binns wrote:
And it's not as if the kids can do anything about it, it's all up to the parents. Appropriate clothes are out there if they look hard enough...
Not quite Ryan. After a year at preschool or kindergarten the kids already know what brands and styles they want to wear. And they go out of their way to get it.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004
Michael Martin wrote:
After a year at preschool or kindergarten the kids already know what brands and styles they want to wear. And they go out of their way to get it.
Sure, but it's still up to the parents to decide what to buy for them.
Ryan
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