Apple is afraid of the Zune
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Or so this article argues[^]. Anybody try one of these out yet?
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Or so this article argues[^]. Anybody try one of these out yet?
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Judah Himango wrote:
Or so this article argues[^].
It's not too hard to believe. MS has a lot of money to throw around when they try to strongarm their way into a market. They did just that with the xbox, and they'll be doing it here I'm sure. The name is stupid, but the $14.99/month for an "all-in-one" pass sounds interesting. I'd be afraid to think of the size of the HDDs will CG would need after he hears this though. :laugh:
Jeremy Falcon A multithreaded, OpenGL-enabled application.[^]
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Or so this article argues[^]. Anybody try one of these out yet?
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http://soapbox.msn.com/[^] I wonder when they'll stop trying to be everything to everyone and start working on making their mainstream products better/faster. They could start with VS. :-D
Jeremy Falcon A multithreaded, OpenGL-enabled application.[^]
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Or so this article argues[^]. Anybody try one of these out yet?
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Let's see: * Same screen res as iPod - so no better for video content. * Available in black, white and ... brown. Brown?! * Has something that *looks* like a click-wheel, but, er.. isn't a wheel at all. * Won't even play Play4Sure DRM encoded files. Nice move MS. * Has a stupid name. * The only decent potential feature - wireless sharing - is hopelessly crippled. * Apple has a 74% market share, and despite what the article may claim, sales of iPods are not slowing down. * Apparently the Zune is bulkier than an iPod. Every 3 months or so we hear about the next so-called "iPod killer" - usually from Creative, Sony or some Korean company no-one has ever heard of. MS may have billions of dollars to throw at projects like this, and the power to generate enormous publicity (plus plenty of bloggers in their pocket) but it doesn't change the fact that, at the end of the day, the Zune just isn't "cool".
Karma Police, arrest this man. He buzzes like a fridge.
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Let's see: * Same screen res as iPod - so no better for video content. * Available in black, white and ... brown. Brown?! * Has something that *looks* like a click-wheel, but, er.. isn't a wheel at all. * Won't even play Play4Sure DRM encoded files. Nice move MS. * Has a stupid name. * The only decent potential feature - wireless sharing - is hopelessly crippled. * Apple has a 74% market share, and despite what the article may claim, sales of iPods are not slowing down. * Apparently the Zune is bulkier than an iPod. Every 3 months or so we hear about the next so-called "iPod killer" - usually from Creative, Sony or some Korean company no-one has ever heard of. MS may have billions of dollars to throw at projects like this, and the power to generate enormous publicity (plus plenty of bloggers in their pocket) but it doesn't change the fact that, at the end of the day, the Zune just isn't "cool".
Karma Police, arrest this man. He buzzes like a fridge.
*it has bigger screen than iPod, how is it not better? *and ipod is available only in white and black. Two color choices against three... once again, who's the winner here? seems obvious to me. *so it's not a click wheel, not everybody likes click wheel (especially in 5th gen) *who cares about play4sure? *as if iPod name is not stupid... *how is wireless sharing crippled? Or did you expect unlimited sharing? rofl *so iPod has market share, your point? Things change *it's bigger but not by much, considering it has bigger screen, I say it's expected As for cool, I believe you summarized it very well. You want to look "cool" in front of 90% of people, then buy an iPod (although you'll look exceptionally stupid for the other 10% thanks largely to your remarks above). iAudio X5/X5L may not be as cool, but it gets the job done and exceptionally well at that. Fact is, zune looks interesting, I don't know how can anyone but total ipod zealots deny that. BTW, here's the physical comparison. http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/portable-media/zune-vs-ipod-about-the-same-size-both-stuck-in-43-200875.php
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http://soapbox.msn.com/[^] I wonder when they'll stop trying to be everything to everyone and start working on making their mainstream products better/faster. They could start with VS. :-D
Jeremy Falcon A multithreaded, OpenGL-enabled application.[^]
Thank you. With SP1 for VS.NET 2003 coming after three years, you could not put it better. Best regards, Paul.
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Let's see: * Same screen res as iPod - so no better for video content. * Available in black, white and ... brown. Brown?! * Has something that *looks* like a click-wheel, but, er.. isn't a wheel at all. * Won't even play Play4Sure DRM encoded files. Nice move MS. * Has a stupid name. * The only decent potential feature - wireless sharing - is hopelessly crippled. * Apple has a 74% market share, and despite what the article may claim, sales of iPods are not slowing down. * Apparently the Zune is bulkier than an iPod. Every 3 months or so we hear about the next so-called "iPod killer" - usually from Creative, Sony or some Korean company no-one has ever heard of. MS may have billions of dollars to throw at projects like this, and the power to generate enormous publicity (plus plenty of bloggers in their pocket) but it doesn't change the fact that, at the end of the day, the Zune just isn't "cool".
Karma Police, arrest this man. He buzzes like a fridge.
Rob Caldecott wrote:
and ... brown. Brown?!
That'd be the "Kyle Edition". :rolleyes:
-- Not Y3K Compliant
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*it has bigger screen than iPod, how is it not better? *and ipod is available only in white and black. Two color choices against three... once again, who's the winner here? seems obvious to me. *so it's not a click wheel, not everybody likes click wheel (especially in 5th gen) *who cares about play4sure? *as if iPod name is not stupid... *how is wireless sharing crippled? Or did you expect unlimited sharing? rofl *so iPod has market share, your point? Things change *it's bigger but not by much, considering it has bigger screen, I say it's expected As for cool, I believe you summarized it very well. You want to look "cool" in front of 90% of people, then buy an iPod (although you'll look exceptionally stupid for the other 10% thanks largely to your remarks above). iAudio X5/X5L may not be as cool, but it gets the job done and exceptionally well at that. Fact is, zune looks interesting, I don't know how can anyone but total ipod zealots deny that. BTW, here's the physical comparison. http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/portable-media/zune-vs-ipod-about-the-same-size-both-stuck-in-43-200875.php
In case you wonder why a 4 vote... Lost the 5 on the last line when I had to play clickety police :) http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/portable-media/zune-vs-ipod-about-the-same-size-both-stuck-in-43-200875.php[^]
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Rob Caldecott wrote:
and ... brown. Brown?!
That'd be the "Kyle Edition". :rolleyes:
-- Not Y3K Compliant
Which should also come in orange and 26 other colors!
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In case you wonder why a 4 vote... Lost the 5 on the last line when I had to play clickety police :) http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/portable-media/zune-vs-ipod-about-the-same-size-both-stuck-in-43-200875.php[^]
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Let's see: * Same screen res as iPod - so no better for video content. * Available in black, white and ... brown. Brown?! * Has something that *looks* like a click-wheel, but, er.. isn't a wheel at all. * Won't even play Play4Sure DRM encoded files. Nice move MS. * Has a stupid name. * The only decent potential feature - wireless sharing - is hopelessly crippled. * Apple has a 74% market share, and despite what the article may claim, sales of iPods are not slowing down. * Apparently the Zune is bulkier than an iPod. Every 3 months or so we hear about the next so-called "iPod killer" - usually from Creative, Sony or some Korean company no-one has ever heard of. MS may have billions of dollars to throw at projects like this, and the power to generate enormous publicity (plus plenty of bloggers in their pocket) but it doesn't change the fact that, at the end of the day, the Zune just isn't "cool".
Karma Police, arrest this man. He buzzes like a fridge.
Rob Caldecott wrote:
* Same screen res as iPod - so no better for video content.
do we at least agree on no worse?
Rob Caldecott wrote:
* Available in black, white and ... brown. Brown?!
I`d never consider color when comparing electronic devices, but original Ipod is what, black, white and U2 ?
Rob Caldecott wrote:
* Apple has a 74% market share, and despite what the article may claim, sales of iPods are not slowing down.
Yeah, MS shouldn`t have released the XBox either, PS2 was too big.
Rob Caldecott wrote:
the Zune just isn't "cool".
Zune isn`t on the market!
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ok, got your 5
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http://soapbox.msn.com/[^] I wonder when they'll stop trying to be everything to everyone and start working on making their mainstream products better/faster. They could start with VS. :-D
Jeremy Falcon A multithreaded, OpenGL-enabled application.[^]
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
mainstream products
Wouldn`t be mainstream without VB. Seee, it does have its advantages :->
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Or so this article argues[^]. Anybody try one of these out yet?
Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: For Christians: The Significance of Yom Teruah The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango
Apple is afraid of the Zune... ...because the battery will explode?
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Rob Caldecott wrote:
and ... brown. Brown?!
That'd be the "Kyle Edition". :rolleyes:
-- Not Y3K Compliant
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
That'd be the "Kyle Edition".
What is your problem, why are you obsessing over me? If you disagree with me, then why dont you just let it go?
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*it has bigger screen than iPod, how is it not better? *and ipod is available only in white and black. Two color choices against three... once again, who's the winner here? seems obvious to me. *so it's not a click wheel, not everybody likes click wheel (especially in 5th gen) *who cares about play4sure? *as if iPod name is not stupid... *how is wireless sharing crippled? Or did you expect unlimited sharing? rofl *so iPod has market share, your point? Things change *it's bigger but not by much, considering it has bigger screen, I say it's expected As for cool, I believe you summarized it very well. You want to look "cool" in front of 90% of people, then buy an iPod (although you'll look exceptionally stupid for the other 10% thanks largely to your remarks above). iAudio X5/X5L may not be as cool, but it gets the job done and exceptionally well at that. Fact is, zune looks interesting, I don't know how can anyone but total ipod zealots deny that. BTW, here's the physical comparison. http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/portable-media/zune-vs-ipod-about-the-same-size-both-stuck-in-43-200875.php
For me, the whole matters more than the parts. iPod is an interesting product. I think that Apple might make iPod a mobile phone with 3G Internet to connect directly to iTunes -- and of course, handle voice calls. That is the future picture of iPod that I have in my mind. I just hope that they do this. :) I don't like the DRM on the music bought from their site; so, I buy CDs and rip them. But Apple, Microsoft or any other online music store would get rights to sell music online, only if they implemented DRM. I cannot comment on the relative benefits that Zune or iPod have over each other -- because I have seen Zune only in pictures, and hyped up articles. But, I will take the exaggerated stuff written about it with a pinch of salt, because it is most likely to be PR. I will wait for the real thing before making up my mind. But, it does not look nearly as good (beauty is in the eyes of the beholder) as iPod. Sure, many would disagree. I think price would also be a deciding factor. . . . and it looks bigger. If it is indeed bigger and heavier, then, the screen size and choice of body colors would not be enough. Thomas
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Or so this article argues[^]. Anybody try one of these out yet?
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... just like Microsoft was afraid of Linux! I think companies have to keep track of who they are competing with and stay ahead. Apple cannot ignore it, when Microsoft joins the race. MS has money, and have used some "dumping tactics" before. Would Zune be available at a discount, if you bought Xbox etc.? would also worry Apple. If I were an Apple shareholder, I would want them to have a strategy to counter the latest mega competitor to their best product. Thomas
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Or so this article argues[^]. Anybody try one of these out yet?
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Got to handle one on Wednesday. Size was OK, software seemed ... strangely familiar. About the only really nice/notable bits were the screen -- very sharp and bright, and the wheel. Believe it or not, one of their selling points is that the wheel is smaller than that on the iPod. I'm expecting similar results to previous devices (Pocket PC, Smartphone, XBox): initially a clone, but iteratively better and better. As for the brown, it was OK -- made it look like it was hardwood or leather. Overall, a solid C+ as a device, a little higher as an iPod clone.
-------------- TTFN - Kent
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Or so this article argues[^]. Anybody try one of these out yet?
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"The zune, only needs to reboot after each song... or randomly..."
Jim
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Thank you. With SP1 for VS.NET 2003 coming after three years, you could not put it better. Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
...and it still didn't fix on of its more annoying bugs.* :doh: * Open a dialog for editing - one which is checked in and has a newer version in VSS than your local copy. Your local copy will be replaced...and then BANG. X|
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