Atheist terrorism?
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
They also condemn theft, adultry, murder, etc... but that doesn't stop them from commiting such acts.
Obviously, but the difference is that Christians do it in spite of their religion, Muslims do it at the request of their religion and atheists do it with no opposition from their religion. I can't think of any aggressive murder suicides committed by active Christians.
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Red Stateler wrote:
Nihilism is the prevelant philosophy of atheisms today
That's complete crap. Indifference is the prevelant philosophy of atheists today.
Indifference is nihilism.
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Red Stateler wrote:
"except in certain communist and nazi nation
You are still wrong. Hitler and Hitler's Germany were not atheistic by any stretch of the imagination and I dare you to cite reputable evidence to the contrary.
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dennisd45 wrote:
I dare you to cite reputable evidence to the contrary.
How about their subversion of all churches and the placement of an iconographic state as the savior of their citizens.
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when you say translation, does it mean it was translated from hebrew?
The Old Testament was. The New Testament, our oldest manuscripts are Greek, so they are translated from Greek. However, we know that at least some of the New Testament was written in Hebrew, as some of the early church heads noted it in their writing.
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The Old Testament was. The New Testament, our oldest manuscripts are Greek, so they are translated from Greek. However, we know that at least some of the New Testament was written in Hebrew, as some of the early church heads noted it in their writing.
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so the bible[torah,psalms] you read today in hebrew, is it same like it was 2000+ years ago?
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Well, you have a point there. It's the same "moral relativism" as far as I can see. And just because someone claims to follow a "higher rule" doesn't mean they always do. And the fact that they don't always follow that higher rule doesn't invalidate the higher rule. It does make them a hypocrit though. I guess we're all hypocritical sometimes.
Ray Cassick wrote:
And, to top it all off they feel they are justified in doing so.
They may feel they're justified, but they're obviously not. I mean how stupid can someone be? To claim to be "pro-life" and then go and kill someone in support of the "pro-life" cause is just plain idiocy.
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dennisd45 wrote:
I dare you to cite reputable evidence to the contrary.
How about their subversion of all churches and the placement of an iconographic state as the savior of their citizens.
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Just how many executions have you witnessed? Man! you should change the company you keep :)
I guess I just have that effect on people. :~
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ahz wrote:
No, but they did it from a lack of morals and respect.
They did it for whatever reason, but it had nothing to do with their beliefs (or lack thereof) in a deity.
ahz wrote:
Or perhaps one could say they defined their own "morals".
They defined their own morals? At that moment? Were they believers before that moment and all of the sudden they turned to atheism, which altered their morals? How about this: They lost it, they went crazy, they stopped caring about obeying the law. Doesn't that sound more plausible? Alvaro
If [God] knows what we are going to do then we have no free will and are just characters in a play written by him. Without free will, morality for humans makes no sense. Without free will and morality, any sort of punishment or reward system loses any justification. Heaven and hell would be places where [God] could watch the souls he created, predestined just for eternal happiness or agony. - Mark Thomas
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
but it had nothing to do with their beliefs (or lack thereof) in a deity.
I didn't say it did.
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
They defined their own morals? At that moment?
Yes, that's my point. And no, it probably wasn't in the moment. I mean, after all, most, if not all, of these murderers planned the acts far in advance. My point is that everyone decides who they will be and how they will act. Those are your "morals" whether they're religious-based or based on something else, such as humanism. And yes, sometimes, in order to justify to ourselves an otherwise immoral act, we change what we believe so that it becomes more acceptable to us. That ultimately has nothing to do with the state of one's belief or non-belief in God.
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Red Stateler wrote:
Nihilism is the prevelant philosophy of atheisms today
That's complete crap. Indifference is the prevelant philosophy of atheists today.
Craster wrote:
Indifference is the prevelant philosophy of atheists today.
Oh, I disagree with that. If they were so indifferent, then they wouldn't be complaining about a religious plaque here or there or some other occasional display of religiousity. Today, atheists are anything *but* indifferent.
Silence is the voice of complicity. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. -- monty python Might I suggest that the universe was always the size of the cosmos. It is just that at one point the cosmos was the size of a marble. -- Colin Angus Mackay