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  • A Anton Afanasyev

    Im sticking to my VMWare and I dont care. VPC was always slower(heh...and M$ product runnign on an M$ OS, and slower than 3rd party products that do the same thing and more...anyways...) and probably will always be slower. so meh.


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    _alank
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    I have used both at different times I never noticed if VMware was faster or not. I will say VPC doesn't run as many OS's but I really don't care that much about that and now it is free *shrug*

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      I have used both at different times I never noticed if VMware was faster or not. I will say VPC doesn't run as many OS's but I really don't care that much about that and now it is free *shrug*

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      Anton Afanasyev
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      um...im not gona say how much i pay for software.


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      • L Lost User

        For those of you who don't know Virtual PC 2007 Beta will be available on October 11. I am real excited, I love virtual machines and I want to be the first to download the beta of VPC2007. Do any of you know when the final release will be expected?

        =====Brain melting code===== static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg: ====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73";

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        Mike_V
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        From the VPC2007 whitepaper:

        Provides support for 64-bit host operating systems. You can run
        Virtual PC 2007 on 64-bit versions of Windows Vista. This means you can run
        16-bit operating systems (such as Windows 98 SE) which are not supported
        natively on 64-bit versions of Windows Vista.

        How can a 16-bit operating system run natively on ANY version of Windows, 32-bit or 64-bit? :wtf: You'd have an OS running on an OS... not possible w/o virtualization. Mike

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        • M Mike_V

          From the VPC2007 whitepaper:

          Provides support for 64-bit host operating systems. You can run
          Virtual PC 2007 on 64-bit versions of Windows Vista. This means you can run
          16-bit operating systems (such as Windows 98 SE) which are not supported
          natively on 64-bit versions of Windows Vista.

          How can a 16-bit operating system run natively on ANY version of Windows, 32-bit or 64-bit? :wtf: You'd have an OS running on an OS... not possible w/o virtualization. Mike

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          El Corazon
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          Mike_V wrote:

          not possible w/o virtualization.

          On the contrary, there is always emulation. However... Virtualization is much faster and efficient than emulation.

          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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          • M Mike_V

            From the VPC2007 whitepaper:

            Provides support for 64-bit host operating systems. You can run
            Virtual PC 2007 on 64-bit versions of Windows Vista. This means you can run
            16-bit operating systems (such as Windows 98 SE) which are not supported
            natively on 64-bit versions of Windows Vista.

            How can a 16-bit operating system run natively on ANY version of Windows, 32-bit or 64-bit? :wtf: You'd have an OS running on an OS... not possible w/o virtualization. Mike

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            Lost User
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            Mike_V wrote:

            How can a 16-bit operating system run natively on ANY version of Windows, 32-bit or 64-bit? You'd have an OS running on an OS... not possible w/o virtualization.

            That is the whole point if Virtual PC. I think what the white paper was trying to say is that you can run 16-bit apps in Virtual PC (with an OS that supports 16-bit installed in a VM). That is your only option if you want to run 16-bit apps in Windows Vista 64

            =====Brain melting code===== static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg: ====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73";

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              Mike_V wrote:

              How can a 16-bit operating system run natively on ANY version of Windows, 32-bit or 64-bit? You'd have an OS running on an OS... not possible w/o virtualization.

              That is the whole point if Virtual PC. I think what the white paper was trying to say is that you can run 16-bit apps in Virtual PC (with an OS that supports 16-bit installed in a VM). That is your only option if you want to run 16-bit apps in Windows Vista 64

              =====Brain melting code===== static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg: ====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73";

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              Mike_V
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              I know. I was just being pedantic. :) Mike

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              • A Anton Afanasyev

                Im sticking to my VMWare and I dont care. VPC was always slower(heh...and M$ product runnign on an M$ OS, and slower than 3rd party products that do the same thing and more...anyways...) and probably will always be slower. so meh.


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                Lost User
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                Virtual PC 2007 is suppose to be much faster and it supports Vista with Aero Glass turned on.

                =====Brain melting code===== static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg: ====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73";

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                • L Lost User

                  Virtual PC 2007 is suppose to be much faster and it supports Vista with Aero Glass turned on.

                  =====Brain melting code===== static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg: ====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73";

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                  Chris Austin
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                  Henize wrote:

                  Aero Glass turned on.

                  Ok. I don't know you would need glass in a VM. Can it run an OS not from MS? I like the current VPC fine but it's lack of support for anything not made by MS drove me to buy VMWare.

                  A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long, Time Enough For Love

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                    Henize wrote:

                    Aero Glass turned on.

                    Ok. I don't know you would need glass in a VM. Can it run an OS not from MS? I like the current VPC fine but it's lack of support for anything not made by MS drove me to buy VMWare.

                    A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long, Time Enough For Love

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                    Lost User
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                    Chris Austin wrote:

                    Ok. I don't know you would need glass in a VM.

                    Just to show you how much the performance has improved and its support for DirectX 9.0

                    Chris Austin wrote:

                    Can it run an OS not from MS? I like the current VPC fine but it's lack of support for anything not made by MS drove me to buy VMWare.

                    Sure it can. Why do you need Microsoft to support you in installing Linux? Virtual PC 2004 says it does not support Windows XP Home Edition yet it works fine on it.

                    =====Brain melting code===== static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg: ====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73";

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                    • L Lost User

                      Virtual PC 2007 is suppose to be much faster and it supports Vista with Aero Glass turned on.

                      =====Brain melting code===== static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg: ====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73";

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                      _alank
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                      Henize wrote:

                      Virtual PC 2007 is suppose to be much faster and it supports Vista with Aero Glass turned on.

                      Yeah I figured they might have upgraded the virtual hardware that it supported. Anyone know if they upgrade the virtual/emulated soundcard? The key to getting other OS's to operate in VPC is understanding what chipsets are being emulated and hoping that OS supports them...

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                      • L Lost User

                        For those of you who don't know Virtual PC 2007 Beta will be available on October 11. I am real excited, I love virtual machines and I want to be the first to download the beta of VPC2007. Do any of you know when the final release will be expected?

                        =====Brain melting code===== static int Sqrt(int x){ if (x<0) throw new ArgumentOutOfRangeException(); int temp, y=0, b=0x8000, bshft=15, v=x; do { if (v>=(temp=(y<<1)+b<>=1)>0); return y; :omg: ====TSI TLFL EEOOLHTG===== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Decode that and you will win.;P ============Hint=========== cout << "33 20 57 4F 52 44 53 62 63 6B 77 6F 72 64 73";

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                        mitchell50
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                        Oh yes. Can't wait. I've always had a penchant for things that are slower and more complicated than they could be. Hopefully processor speed will be at 16ghz by the end of the year. Then Windows might run as fast as CPM did on my 1979 Northstar.;)

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