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  • M Mark Donkers

    Well, here we go. I got the OK today to from the big-wigs to use C# in our next internal project. My first .NET app. Great. Now where do I start? I was hoping I could get some recommendations on some reading material. I'm sure there's lots of online material, but I'm looking for a good ol' fashion book. Can anyone suggest anything?? :-D Marcus Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir your blood to action. Make big plans, aim high in work and hope -- Daniel Burnham

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    Marcus2001 wrote: Well, here we go. I got the OK today to from the big-wigs to use C# in our next internal project. My first .NET app. Great. Now where do I start? Oh my *goodness*. you're going to *learn* C# while writing something for work ? Marcus2001 wrote: I was hoping I could get some recommendations on some reading material. I'm sure there's lots of online material, but I'm looking for a good ol' fashion book. Can anyone suggest anything?? I have the Petzold book, and I also have a book called C# and the .NET Platform from A-Press. They compliment each other well, but I suspect the second edition of Tom Archers Inside C# book is going to be better, and once I've bought it, I doubt I'll turn much to the A-Press book. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002

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      Marcus2001 wrote: Well, here we go. I got the OK today to from the big-wigs to use C# in our next internal project. My first .NET app. Great. Now where do I start? Oh my *goodness*. you're going to *learn* C# while writing something for work ? Marcus2001 wrote: I was hoping I could get some recommendations on some reading material. I'm sure there's lots of online material, but I'm looking for a good ol' fashion book. Can anyone suggest anything?? I have the Petzold book, and I also have a book called C# and the .NET Platform from A-Press. They compliment each other well, but I suspect the second edition of Tom Archers Inside C# book is going to be better, and once I've bought it, I doubt I'll turn much to the A-Press book. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002

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      Christian Graus wrote: Oh my *goodness*. you're going to *learn* C# while writing something for work ? ... and get paid for it !! I was actually going to learn it anyway... but if they want me to do it on company time, I ain't gonna complain. :cool: Petzold... yeah, I have his Win32 book. Love it. You wouldn't happen to know when Tom Archer's book is coming out do you? Thanks Christian. Marcus Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir your blood to action. Make big plans, aim high in work and hope -- Daniel Burnham

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        Christian Graus wrote: Oh my *goodness*. you're going to *learn* C# while writing something for work ? ... and get paid for it !! I was actually going to learn it anyway... but if they want me to do it on company time, I ain't gonna complain. :cool: Petzold... yeah, I have his Win32 book. Love it. You wouldn't happen to know when Tom Archer's book is coming out do you? Thanks Christian. Marcus Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir your blood to action. Make big plans, aim high in work and hope -- Daniel Burnham

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        Marcus2001 wrote: Petzold... yeah, I have his Win32 book. Love it. Then you know what to expect. The level of detail is often amazing. Marcus2001 wrote: You wouldn't happen to know when Tom Archer's book is coming out do you? Thanks Christian. According to him, it's imminent, as in the publishers have published it but people like Amazon are selling their last few copies ( 4 left as of yesterday ) before releasing the new one. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002

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          Christian Graus wrote: Oh my *goodness*. you're going to *learn* C# while writing something for work ? ... and get paid for it !! I was actually going to learn it anyway... but if they want me to do it on company time, I ain't gonna complain. :cool: Petzold... yeah, I have his Win32 book. Love it. You wouldn't happen to know when Tom Archer's book is coming out do you? Thanks Christian. Marcus Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir your blood to action. Make big plans, aim high in work and hope -- Daniel Burnham

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          Hi Daniel, First, congrats on getting started with C#!!! My book is supposed to be on the shelves this week or next. In fact, my editor said that she got copies on her desk *today*. With regards to C# books it really depends on what you're looking for. All the MS Press books are meant to compliment one another. For example, Petzold has tons about GDI and Windows Forms while Richter is about .NET internals. My book is specifically about C# and some of the main BCL classes (string and reg expressions, streaming, com interop, exceptions, etc.) You can find out more info here. Drop me an email if you have any further questions and I'll be happy to help. Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Please note that the opinions expressed in this correspondence do not necessarily reflect the views of the author.

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          • M Mark Donkers

            Well, here we go. I got the OK today to from the big-wigs to use C# in our next internal project. My first .NET app. Great. Now where do I start? I was hoping I could get some recommendations on some reading material. I'm sure there's lots of online material, but I'm looking for a good ol' fashion book. Can anyone suggest anything?? :-D Marcus Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir your blood to action. Make big plans, aim high in work and hope -- Daniel Burnham

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            I have Charles Petzold's C# book from Microsoft Press, however the book, also from Microsoft Press "Microsoft Visual C#.NET STEP BY STEP" by John Sharp and Jon Jagger is rather well written. It covers not only a lot of the structures of the language but how to do a lot more with the designer. I have also looked through Tom Archer's book, however I to am waiting for the second edition to come out. Nick Parker This is a non-Calculus course as long as you know things like line integrals and surface integrals...

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              Hi Daniel, First, congrats on getting started with C#!!! My book is supposed to be on the shelves this week or next. In fact, my editor said that she got copies on her desk *today*. With regards to C# books it really depends on what you're looking for. All the MS Press books are meant to compliment one another. For example, Petzold has tons about GDI and Windows Forms while Richter is about .NET internals. My book is specifically about C# and some of the main BCL classes (string and reg expressions, streaming, com interop, exceptions, etc.) You can find out more info here. Drop me an email if you have any further questions and I'll be happy to help. Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Please note that the opinions expressed in this correspondence do not necessarily reflect the views of the author.

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              Tom Archer wrote: Hi Daniel, First, congrats on getting started with C#!!! My book is supposed to be on the shelves this week or next. In fact, my editor said that she got copies on her desk *today*. With regards to C# books it really depends on what you're looking for. All the MS Press books are meant to compliment one another. For example, Petzold has tons about GDI and Windows Forms while Richter is about .NET internals. My book is specifically about C# and some of the main BCL classes (string and reg expressions, streaming, com interop, exceptions, etc.) Hi Tom, I was in Chapters book store tonight and I only saw your first edition (I think). I didn't look at it too closely because it wasn't the lastest-and-greatest, and I had 20 other books to sift through. I'm not sure exactly what I'm looking for, but it sounds like I need a mix of your book and Petzold's. Ah, what the heck... I'll get both :) I'll keep my eyes peeled for your book. Would you happen to know if Chapters will be stocking it? Thanks for the info Tom. Marcus (aka - Daniel :laugh: ) Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir your blood to action. Make big plans, aim high in work and hope -- Daniel Burnham

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              • M Mark Donkers

                Tom Archer wrote: Hi Daniel, First, congrats on getting started with C#!!! My book is supposed to be on the shelves this week or next. In fact, my editor said that she got copies on her desk *today*. With regards to C# books it really depends on what you're looking for. All the MS Press books are meant to compliment one another. For example, Petzold has tons about GDI and Windows Forms while Richter is about .NET internals. My book is specifically about C# and some of the main BCL classes (string and reg expressions, streaming, com interop, exceptions, etc.) Hi Tom, I was in Chapters book store tonight and I only saw your first edition (I think). I didn't look at it too closely because it wasn't the lastest-and-greatest, and I had 20 other books to sift through. I'm not sure exactly what I'm looking for, but it sounds like I need a mix of your book and Petzold's. Ah, what the heck... I'll get both :) I'll keep my eyes peeled for your book. Would you happen to know if Chapters will be stocking it? Thanks for the info Tom. Marcus (aka - Daniel :laugh: ) Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir your blood to action. Make big plans, aim high in work and hope -- Daniel Burnham

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                Hi Daniel :laugh: ..., er, Marcus :) I just checked on the Chapters Web site and it looks like they'll be carrying the book. Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Please note that the opinions expressed in this correspondence do not necessarily reflect the views of the author.

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                  I have Charles Petzold's C# book from Microsoft Press, however the book, also from Microsoft Press "Microsoft Visual C#.NET STEP BY STEP" by John Sharp and Jon Jagger is rather well written. It covers not only a lot of the structures of the language but how to do a lot more with the designer. I have also looked through Tom Archer's book, however I to am waiting for the second edition to come out. Nick Parker This is a non-Calculus course as long as you know things like line integrals and surface integrals...

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                  The Step by Step books are definitely better than I anticipated. I just purchased the MC++ one and love it. The main diffs between my C# book and the SBS book is that it covers the designers whereas my book is specifically about the language. Therefore, I cover the language to a much greater level of detail. However, it is also a really good book. Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Please note that the opinions expressed in this correspondence do not necessarily reflect the views of the author.

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                  • M Mark Donkers

                    Tom Archer wrote: Hi Daniel, First, congrats on getting started with C#!!! My book is supposed to be on the shelves this week or next. In fact, my editor said that she got copies on her desk *today*. With regards to C# books it really depends on what you're looking for. All the MS Press books are meant to compliment one another. For example, Petzold has tons about GDI and Windows Forms while Richter is about .NET internals. My book is specifically about C# and some of the main BCL classes (string and reg expressions, streaming, com interop, exceptions, etc.) Hi Tom, I was in Chapters book store tonight and I only saw your first edition (I think). I didn't look at it too closely because it wasn't the lastest-and-greatest, and I had 20 other books to sift through. I'm not sure exactly what I'm looking for, but it sounds like I need a mix of your book and Petzold's. Ah, what the heck... I'll get both :) I'll keep my eyes peeled for your book. Would you happen to know if Chapters will be stocking it? Thanks for the info Tom. Marcus (aka - Daniel :laugh: ) Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir your blood to action. Make big plans, aim high in work and hope -- Daniel Burnham

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                    It looks like we're finally shipping! Also, Amazon is combining my book with Petzold's with a special price. Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Please note that the opinions expressed in this correspondence do not necessarily reflect the views of the author.

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                      It looks like we're finally shipping! Also, Amazon is combining my book with Petzold's with a special price. Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Please note that the opinions expressed in this correspondence do not necessarily reflect the views of the author.

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                      The best of both worlds!! Thanks again Tom. Marcus Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir your blood to action. Make big plans, aim high in work and hope -- Daniel Burnham

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                        The best of both worlds!! Thanks again Tom. Marcus Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir your blood to action. Make big plans, aim high in work and hope -- Daniel Burnham

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                        You're very welcome Marcus and judging from the prices I saw on the Chapter site, a much better financial deal! Once you get the book always feel free to ping me with any questions. Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Please note that the opinions expressed in this correspondence do not necessarily reflect the views of the author.

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                        • M Mark Donkers

                          Well, here we go. I got the OK today to from the big-wigs to use C# in our next internal project. My first .NET app. Great. Now where do I start? I was hoping I could get some recommendations on some reading material. I'm sure there's lots of online material, but I'm looking for a good ol' fashion book. Can anyone suggest anything?? :-D Marcus Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir your blood to action. Make big plans, aim high in work and hope -- Daniel Burnham

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                          Congratulations! It's awesome when you get the green light to go ahead and write C#. The first book I ever got about .NET and last was Inside C# by Tom Archer. It's a very good reference book. Hope that help Al

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                            The Step by Step books are definitely better than I anticipated. I just purchased the MC++ one and love it. The main diffs between my C# book and the SBS book is that it covers the designers whereas my book is specifically about the language. Therefore, I cover the language to a much greater level of detail. However, it is also a really good book. Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Please note that the opinions expressed in this correspondence do not necessarily reflect the views of the author.

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                            I didn't know there was a book in MC++! What's the title and author and do you think is worth it for intermidiate level? Thanks Al

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                              Congratulations! It's awesome when you get the green light to go ahead and write C#. The first book I ever got about .NET and last was Inside C# by Tom Archer. It's a very good reference book. Hope that help Al

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                              And guess what! They're paying for the books (the Archer and Petzold). I love this job. ;P You'll have to excuse me... it's time to place an order. Thanks everyone! BTW - Now I can afford the The Career Programmer - Guerilla Tactics.... Marcus Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir your blood to action. Make big plans, aim high in work and hope -- Daniel Burnham

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                                I didn't know there was a book in MC++! What's the title and author and do you think is worth it for intermidiate level? Thanks Al

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                                Intermediate C++ programmers in general or someone that already considers themselves intermediate in MC++ ? As a beginner to MC++, but extremely exerienced in VC++, I thought it was great because it was straight to the point without any fluff. I also love the step by step, tutorial type of writing. However, it is meant for people with absolutely zero MC++ experience. I think you're going to find that of any .NET language book at this point because publishers are not going to chance writing for the minority that already know this stuff. Even my second edition of Inside C#, while having lots of cool intermediate and advanced level stuff - also assumes from the beginning that you have no experience. As I said, there's no publisher that's going to let you do it any other way. Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Please note that the opinions expressed in this correspondence do not necessarily reflect the views of the author.

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                                  Intermediate C++ programmers in general or someone that already considers themselves intermediate in MC++ ? As a beginner to MC++, but extremely exerienced in VC++, I thought it was great because it was straight to the point without any fluff. I also love the step by step, tutorial type of writing. However, it is meant for people with absolutely zero MC++ experience. I think you're going to find that of any .NET language book at this point because publishers are not going to chance writing for the minority that already know this stuff. Even my second edition of Inside C#, while having lots of cool intermediate and advanced level stuff - also assumes from the beginning that you have no experience. As I said, there's no publisher that's going to let you do it any other way. Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Please note that the opinions expressed in this correspondence do not necessarily reflect the views of the author.

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                                  I only see 2 books available for MC++ (at Amazon) Essential Guide To Managed Extensions For C++ by Siva Challa, Artur Laksberg and Managed C++ and .NET Development by Stephen R., G. Fraser Which one do you think I should get? Any other MC++ books our there? Where can I get them? Thanks Al

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                                    I only see 2 books available for MC++ (at Amazon) Essential Guide To Managed Extensions For C++ by Siva Challa, Artur Laksberg and Managed C++ and .NET Development by Stephen R., G. Fraser Which one do you think I should get? Any other MC++ books our there? Where can I get them? Thanks Al

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                                    The Step by Step one is here. I personally like it much better than the APress book (I have both). But then again, I don't really care for the APress style. I'm not familiar with Fraser book so I can't comment on it. MS Press definitely made a mistake when it didn't put "managed extensions" in the title as that's what people will look for to separate a VC++.NET book that is mainly MFC (like mine) vs a VC++.NET book that is ME. Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Please note that the opinions expressed in this correspondence do not necessarily reflect the views of the author.

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                                      The Step by Step one is here. I personally like it much better than the APress book (I have both). But then again, I don't really care for the APress style. I'm not familiar with Fraser book so I can't comment on it. MS Press definitely made a mistake when it didn't put "managed extensions" in the title as that's what people will look for to separate a VC++.NET book that is mainly MFC (like mine) vs a VC++.NET book that is ME. Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Please note that the opinions expressed in this correspondence do not necessarily reflect the views of the author.

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                                      I just go it!! Thanks! Yes isn't easy to find as I seach using: "Managed C++" I can't wait to read it! I am like an Star Wars fan waiting for Episode II! :-D Al

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