How emotionally invested are you in your work?
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marius_romanus wrote:
If it is some new or system base feature I can get very "invested".
I'm definitely that way too. The design is done in a certain way for what I feel are very good reasons. To have design elements taken out, making the objects more entangled and application dependent, for no other reason than that they make the code a bit more complex, well, that's frustrating. So, I wonder why I even bother doing design, if it's clear that management feels the code can be refactored later and corners can be cut now. :sigh: Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithMarc Clifton wrote:
So, I wonder why I even bother doing design, if it's clear that management feels the code can be refactored later and corners can be cut now.
Management often has this "feeling". Sad but true. In my team we had a dedicated designer until last year. She had very good ideas and great knowledge about the different system parts. But...she ran against management walls... Then she left the company and with it IT completely. After this, another member - already 10 years with the company - was "entitled" the new designer. ...He will leave us end of October. :( I still hope some day mamagement will change its views... Marius
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Remember that "weeping indian" ad? Yeah, that's me when i see cluttered, thoughtless code. A single tear, rolling slowly down my CRT radiation-weathered face. That's how emotionally invested i am in my work.
every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?
Shog9 wrote:
Yeah, that's me when i see cluttered, thoughtless code. A single tear, rolling slowly down my CRT radiation-weathered face. That's how emotionally invested i am in my work.
:sigh: Me too. Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith -
Just that. No further explanation to that question. :) Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithIt depends if its my work, or the work I gotta do to keep a job where the boss nitpicks about everything except the way I fart. If it's my work (meaning I'm not victium of the micro-management anal retentives), I'm invested a lot. If not, it's just paying the bills.
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Just that. No further explanation to that question. :) Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith -
Just that. No further explanation to that question. :) Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithZero:) I never get attached to my code. Becuase I never end up liking my code or my articles no matter how good or bad they are. But things were exactly the opposite when I started my career.
Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. -Brian Kernighan
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Just that. No further explanation to that question. :) Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithToo much, maybe. I have pride in the products our company produces, I have pride in the heritage of the company I work for (it *does* have a lot - over 100 years worth). And I have pride in the work I produce - but I think I'd be like *that* whereever I worked.
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I would say I am passionate about it. I did have a manager tell me several years ago that I would be a much better employee if I would learn not to care so much. I will not let the corporation control the kind of person I am (well not too much. ;P .)
Michael A. Barnhart wrote:
I did have a manager tell me several years ago that I would be a much better employee if I would learn not to care so much.
We care a lot about exceptions, crashes, cracks and smashed stacks We care a lot about the copy-paste coders on our backs We care a lot about bloat and SCRUM and UML RUP We care a lot about neglect, baby rot, code rot, yeah! We care a lot about the gamblers and the spammers and the trolls We care a lot about the loops and tricks and scripts that mask the holes We care a lot about the death of the command line and text mode We care a lot about it all, cause we're out to save the code! YEAH! And it's a dirty job but someone's gotta do it...
every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?
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Just that. No further explanation to that question. :) Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithI'm interviewing for my first tech job in a couple hours. If how I feel about getting this job is any indication of how I will feel about the work itself then I have to say that without hesitation I'll be damned invested...yes, damn invested indeed!
"We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the internet, we know this is not true." -- Professor Robert Silensky
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Just that. No further explanation to that question. :) Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithToward the actual with requirements analysis through Validation and verification, the helping young Engineers learn, all the stuff I sign up for and am responsible for, 99% emotionally invested. This stuff, I'll call it "the fun stuff", takes about 25% of my time. Toward everything else in my job, the poiltics, the items other people say I'm responsible for but I'm given no authority over, the artificial deadlines, the real deadlines that I tell the bosses can not be met, 0% emotionally invested. This takes up most of my time and I'm not emotionally invested enough to give it a name.
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Just that. No further explanation to that question. :) Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithPretty damn close to 100%, right now...it's 11pm, and I've just killed a really annoying bug that we've been trying to chase down for absolutely ages.... :-D I rather think it's time to crash now though I think. I've done enough bug-hunting for one day. :rolleyes:
Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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Remember that "weeping indian" ad? Yeah, that's me when i see cluttered, thoughtless code. A single tear, rolling slowly down my CRT radiation-weathered face. That's how emotionally invested i am in my work.
every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?
Me too. I really, really detest working on messy code. X|
Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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I've tried to make code reviews happen in the past and was laughed to scorn. My current job has been the first to take this idea seriously. There's not much you can do about that. But, I'd prefer no review to a 'silent' one. Especially as the changes were all a matter of form more than substance, I am ALL in favour of coding standards, but I need to know about them if I am to stick to them.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
That's pretty much been my experience too. Sad but true. :(
Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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Just that. No further explanation to that question. :) Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithMarc Clifton wrote:
Just that. No further explanation to that question.
You can't get emotionally invested in your work in my business. It'll destroy you. At the same time I do have a bit of pride in my work, at least for the quality and time spent listening to the customer (which is rare in my business -- we're supposed to tell the customer what they want, not ask). I do get a bit insulted when someone puts down my work, it does represent 12 years of my life, at 41 that's longer than either of my marriages lasted... combined! But you can't get me PO'd over it, many have tried. So I will still say very, very little. Plus, I have new distractions in my home life, work's getting less and less of my priority. :->
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Just that. No further explanation to that question. :) Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithEasy. 42. Did I pass the test?
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Just that. No further explanation to that question. :) Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithMy code must be elegant, beautiful, and functional. Also, the stupidest little things can ruin my day: like maintaining something that makes extensive use of undocumented globals and Pascal case members.
On two occasions I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. - Charles Babbage
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Just that. No further explanation to that question. :) Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithNot much anymore. The first program that I learned how to develop Windows and C++ with took 2 years of my life. It was great, the whole project was my baby. I wanted to do things with the software, but management was shortsighted, and kept holding me back. In the end, I got screwed at that position because I wouldnt drop out of college for them. Leaving that job and that application tore me up. Since then, I take a lot of pride in my work, and I still take ownership for everything that I do, however, I try not to become attached unless it is something that I do on my own, and I have sole ownership of it. Getting torn away from that first project was like losing my first true love. I am sure another project will come along that will make that strong emotional tie for me again, but it will have to be something special.
Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for a day
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Just that. No further explanation to that question. :) Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithMarc Clifton wrote:
Just that. No further explanation to that question.
Far too much for my own good.
Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
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Just that. No further explanation to that question. :) Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith -
Just that. No further explanation to that question. :) Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithCode is alive and I give it life. I am completely emotionally involved into coding. I sleep with code in my bed, kiss it good night and, of course, it kisses me back, since I programmed it to. Every time a bug slips in, nothing else matters except getting my baby healthy again. Then we ship it.
---------- Siderite