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No SQL Server for Vista

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  • D Daniel Turini

    If even MS applications, which are supposedly good citizens and don't ill-behave, have problems running on Vista, what about other millions of applications? What do VS 2005 SP1 and SQL Server do that other applications don't?

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    Chris Losinger
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    i'll (wildly) guess that it uses some undocumented (and now obsolete) Windows API calls

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    • K Kevin McFarlane

      http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2049935,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K0000594[^] The only supported version is SQL Server 2005 SP2 which will only exist "some time soon." Even VS 2005 SP1 (possibly still a couple of months away) won't work fully on Vista. So what have the MS dev tools team been doing for the past year? Presumably matters would be worse had Vista not been late.

      Kevin

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      peterchen
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      I love the smell of too many dependencies on unfinished code in the morning!


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      • C Chris Losinger

        i'll (wildly) guess that it uses some undocumented (and now obsolete) Windows API calls

        image processing | blogging

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        Anton Afanasyev
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        I think its more due to all the extra security things built into vista, which effectively enables these aplications to die. and they seem to like dying a lot.


        Give me some booze, and I'll obfuscate the code on source level... - Joergen Sigvardsson

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          I think its more due to all the extra security things built into vista, which effectively enables these aplications to die. and they seem to like dying a lot.


          Give me some booze, and I'll obfuscate the code on source level... - Joergen Sigvardsson

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          MS should really have implemented their security infrastructure in the first version of XP. Since at that time they moved to common 9x and NT code, that would have been the time to have the big bang and get the pain out of the way.

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          • K Kevin McFarlane

            http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2049935,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K0000594[^] The only supported version is SQL Server 2005 SP2 which will only exist "some time soon." Even VS 2005 SP1 (possibly still a couple of months away) won't work fully on Vista. So what have the MS dev tools team been doing for the past year? Presumably matters would be worse had Vista not been late.

            Kevin

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            Rohde
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            Their incompetencies is shocking. I like this from the article: "...it might be a good time to update to SQL Server 2005 because it was "designed to take advantage of the upcoming security and performance enhancements" in the new operating systems." So SQL Server 2005 was designed to take advantage of Vista's new features....besides the fact it's not supported on Vista.

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            • K Kevin McFarlane

              MS should really have implemented their security infrastructure in the first version of XP. Since at that time they moved to common 9x and NT code, that would have been the time to have the big bang and get the pain out of the way.

              Kevin

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              Anton Afanasyev
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              but...but...M$ likes pain....at least when others get it.:laugh:


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              • C Chris Losinger

                i'll (wildly) guess that it uses some undocumented (and now obsolete) Windows API calls

                image processing | blogging

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                Daniel Turini
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                Chris Losinger wrote:

                i'll (wildly) guess that it uses some undocumented (and now obsolete) Windows API calls

                This could be, but thinking that SQL Server handles important data and uses undocumented APIs gives me shivers....

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                • R Rohde

                  Their incompetencies is shocking. I like this from the article: "...it might be a good time to update to SQL Server 2005 because it was "designed to take advantage of the upcoming security and performance enhancements" in the new operating systems." So SQL Server 2005 was designed to take advantage of Vista's new features....besides the fact it's not supported on Vista.

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                  Chris S Kaiser
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                  :laugh::laugh:

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                  • D Dario Solera

                    Microsoft seems to be going to suicide. I was really amazed about Vista, but all the recent news make me think it would be a problem rather than an improvement. HW requirements, Licensing issues, lacking support for Visual Studio, and now even problems with SQL Server. I don't know.

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                    Pavel Klocek
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                    I have the same opinion.

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                    • K Kevin McFarlane

                      http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2049935,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K0000594[^] The only supported version is SQL Server 2005 SP2 which will only exist "some time soon." Even VS 2005 SP1 (possibly still a couple of months away) won't work fully on Vista. So what have the MS dev tools team been doing for the past year? Presumably matters would be worse had Vista not been late.

                      Kevin

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                      Rocky Moore
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                      SQL Server Express seems to work fine on Vista with a slight change on permissions. The plan to update that in their installer for SP2 from what I understand. Was a bit of a shock to see a compatiblity message come up when installing telling to you only run after you have installed SP2 which is not out yet :)

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                      • K Kevin McFarlane

                        http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2049935,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K0000594[^] The only supported version is SQL Server 2005 SP2 which will only exist "some time soon." Even VS 2005 SP1 (possibly still a couple of months away) won't work fully on Vista. So what have the MS dev tools team been doing for the past year? Presumably matters would be worse had Vista not been late.

                        Kevin

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                        Chris Maunder
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                        Is this the same Vista for which all our old programs will still work? Riiiight.

                        cheers, Chris Maunder

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