Republicans prefer Satan
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Here's a very well-documented report[^] from a non-partisan group discouraging dubious election practices.
ACVR Legislative Fund further found that, despite their heated rhetoric, paid
Democrat operatives were far more involved in voter intimidation and suppression
activities than were their Republican counterparts during the 2004 presidential
election. Whether it was slashing tires on GOP get-out-the-vote vans in Milwaukee or
court orders stopping the DNC from intimidating Republican volunteers in Florida,
the evidence presented in this report shows that paid Democrat operatives were
responsible for using the same tactics in 2004 that they routinely accuse
Republicans of engaging in.It outlines uncovered fraud and intimidation in the last election on both sides of the aisle, but makes it clear that Democrats and those paid by them far exceeded Republicans in terms of questionable practices while also spewing far more rhetoric accusing Republicans of these practices. Democrats have done this for literally decades, too.
ACVR - Chaired by Brian Lunde a Bush operative and lobbyist to the dictator of the Congo. Quite non-partisan.:rolleyes:
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You prove my point. You don't like what someone says, well its just Orwellian Marxist double-speak. X|
oilFactotum wrote:
You don't like what someone says
No, you prove my point. Somehow there is something more significant about me disagreeing with you, than there is with you disagreeing with me. That is most certainly Orwellian Marxist double-speak - leftist ideas are inherently more valid and significant than are conservative ones.
Thank God for disproportional force.
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ACVR - Chaired by Brian Lunde a Bush operative and lobbyist to the dictator of the Congo. Quite non-partisan.:rolleyes:
Are you that retarded?
Brian Lunde has three decades of political campaign and grassroots organizing
experience at the national, state and local levels. He has served as Executive
Director of the Democratic National Committee (DNC), as campaign manager for the
Presidential bid of the late Senator Paul Simon, and as director of two winning
campaigns for the DNC Chairmanship (Chuck Manatt in 1981 and Paul Kirk in 1985). He
was also nominated for Campaign Manager of the Year in 1990 for his work in Rhode
Island by the American Association of Political Consultants.He's a lifelong Democrat who, like Zell Miller, endorsed Bush. Obviously in your world nobody has any credibility unless they have a giant Stalin statue in their living room. The case is closed. Give it up.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
In fact, the current criticism of the Republicans from the left represents little more than Orwellian Marxist double-speak.
You mean double-speak like the Republican platform of Religious Intolerance and Family Values being lead by Gay Pedophile Congressmen and Married Gay Evangelical Christians. :laugh: :laugh: And now for the weather report. Wednesdays forecast is gloomy with continual hypocrisy and high winds due to the amount of "hot air".
led mike
led mike wrote:
You mean double-speak like the Republican platform of Religious Intolerance and Family Values being lead by Gay Pedophile Congressmen and Married Gay Evangelical Christians.
Precisely. The fact that these guys professed values means that they could be held accountable for violating those values, and were. Your solution, and that of the left in general, to that 'problem' is to prefer individuals who do not profess such values. Good plan.
Thank God for disproportional force.
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Are you that retarded?
Brian Lunde has three decades of political campaign and grassroots organizing
experience at the national, state and local levels. He has served as Executive
Director of the Democratic National Committee (DNC), as campaign manager for the
Presidential bid of the late Senator Paul Simon, and as director of two winning
campaigns for the DNC Chairmanship (Chuck Manatt in 1981 and Paul Kirk in 1985). He
was also nominated for Campaign Manager of the Year in 1990 for his work in Rhode
Island by the American Association of Political Consultants.He's a lifelong Democrat who, like Zell Miller, endorsed Bush. Obviously in your world nobody has any credibility unless they have a giant Stalin statue in their living room. The case is closed. Give it up.
Already name calling. That didn't take long. "According to Senate lobbying registrations, in 2001 Lunde registered to lobby for George Birnbaum, an associate of Republican consultant and mudthrower Arthur Finkelstein. According to his disclosure filed with the Secretary of the Senate, Lunde worked to "set up meetings for President Kabila of Congo." "The American Center for Voting Rights (ACVR) recently presented RNC chairman Ken Mehlman with a report claiming that Democrats had practiced voter fraud and intimidation during the 2004 election. Their findings would be troubling, except for the fact that they are a GOP front group whose officers are all partisan Republicans. In fact, Jim Dyke, the organization's spokesman, was the RNC's communications director during the 2004 elections, where he defended a RNC funded group that was caught tearing up Democratic voter registration forms. ACVR's counsel ran against former Democratic Minority Leader Dick Gephardt, and its Chairman was an associate of Washington super lobbyist, Jack Abramoff. They're not exactly the non-partisan organization they claim to be." non-partisan, hardly.
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oilFactotum wrote:
You don't like what someone says
No, you prove my point. Somehow there is something more significant about me disagreeing with you, than there is with you disagreeing with me. That is most certainly Orwellian Marxist double-speak - leftist ideas are inherently more valid and significant than are conservative ones.
Thank God for disproportional force.
Stan Shannon wrote:
Somehow there is something more significant about me disagreeing with you
Not at all. The difference is I disagree with you and call you absolutist. You disagree with me and call everyone Marxists.
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Already name calling. That didn't take long. "According to Senate lobbying registrations, in 2001 Lunde registered to lobby for George Birnbaum, an associate of Republican consultant and mudthrower Arthur Finkelstein. According to his disclosure filed with the Secretary of the Senate, Lunde worked to "set up meetings for President Kabila of Congo." "The American Center for Voting Rights (ACVR) recently presented RNC chairman Ken Mehlman with a report claiming that Democrats had practiced voter fraud and intimidation during the 2004 election. Their findings would be troubling, except for the fact that they are a GOP front group whose officers are all partisan Republicans. In fact, Jim Dyke, the organization's spokesman, was the RNC's communications director during the 2004 elections, where he defended a RNC funded group that was caught tearing up Democratic voter registration forms. ACVR's counsel ran against former Democratic Minority Leader Dick Gephardt, and its Chairman was an associate of Washington super lobbyist, Jack Abramoff. They're not exactly the non-partisan organization they claim to be." non-partisan, hardly.
I'll say it again...Are you that retarded? He's a lifelong Democrat. You can try and paint him as a Republican frontman all you want...except for the fact that he's a lifelong Democrat and, with the exception of Bush, has always campaigned for Democrats. You're really very, very sad to go to such extremes merely to justify your false beliefs to yourself. So once again, the case is closed. Give up.
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Rob Graham wrote:
Thanks for the expected daily dose of partisan crap.
No problem. I'm always happy to expose the bad news. It's a shame that a old partisan hack like yourself can't be "fair and balanced" when it comes to replying to other partisan posts on this board. Your response to "God prefers Republicans" is quite telling. :mad:
A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything. - Friedrich Nietzsche
Right "I'm hoping he prefers Libertarians this election (I know, fat chance...)." was terribly partisan.
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
partisan hack like yourself
The only partisan hack in this conversation is yourself. Obviously you believe that only Democrats deserve votes this election. I disagree. Both major parties fail to offer reasonable alternatives, so I chose a third party. Stuff your partisan crap where the sun doesn't shine.
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I'll say it again...Are you that retarded? He's a lifelong Democrat. You can try and paint him as a Republican frontman all you want...except for the fact that he's a lifelong Democrat and, with the exception of Bush, has always campaigned for Democrats. You're really very, very sad to go to such extremes merely to justify your false beliefs to yourself. So once again, the case is closed. Give up.
Again with the name calling. You said it was a non partisan group - it is not. Loaded with republicans. Give it up. Case closed.
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Again with the name calling. You said it was a non partisan group - it is not. Loaded with republicans. Give it up. Case closed.
Do shiny object fascinate you?
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Stan Shannon wrote:
Somehow there is something more significant about me disagreeing with you
Not at all. The difference is I disagree with you and call you absolutist. You disagree with me and call everyone Marxists.
I believe he called leftists Marxists. Sure it's the leftist dream to have everyone be a Marxist, but you haven't achieved that dream, so it's only wishful thinking on your part.
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I believe he called leftists Marxists. Sure it's the leftist dream to have everyone be a Marxist, but you haven't achieved that dream, so it's only wishful thinking on your part.
Red Stateler wrote:
I believe he called leftists Marxists
Same difference
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Do shiny object fascinate you?
Very typical, red. You make a false claim, you get busted on it, then resort to name calling. Since you are always pissing and moaning when someone calls you a name - here's one for you: hypocrite.
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Red Stateler wrote:
I believe he called leftists Marxists
Same difference
Look at my keys. Aren't they pretty? *jingle jingle*
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All you really have to do is honestly answer the question, "Why do the Democrats fight against laws that would deter fraud." See the fight in Georgia (and elsewhere) to stop a requirement for valid photo IDs. See similar Democrat fights against purging voter rolls of the dead and relocated. Pretty well answers the question.
Mike Dear NYT - the fact is, the founding fathers hung traitors. Dear NYT - Thanks for being the house organ of the Democrat Party. dennisd45: My view of the world is slightly more nuanced dennisd45 (the NAMBLA supporter) wrote: I know exactly what it means. So shut up you mother killing baby raper.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
All you really have to do is honestly answer the question, "Why do the Democrats fight against laws that would deter fraud." See the fight in Georgia (and elsewhere) to stop a requirement for valid photo IDs. See similar Democrat fights against purging voter rolls of the dead and relocated. Pretty well answers the question.
I don't deny that there has been and there will be fraud on the Democratic side. I was merely linking to reports of dirty activities coming from the Republican side -- which, going by what the media is reporting, seems to be the only side doing it at the moment. Alvaro
A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything. - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Very typical, red. You make a false claim, you get busted on it, then resort to name calling. Since you are always pissing and moaning when someone calls you a name - here's one for you: hypocrite.
Yes it is typical...Only I made a valid claim, provided ample and unbiased evidence, and was rebuked by logic that only someone who is completely brainwashed could possibly fathom. Out of my frustration, I completely and justifiable point out the fact that, given your inability/unwillingness to accept plain facts, that you are, in fact, retarded. I mean that not as name-calling, but out of my utmost respect and pity for the cognitively challenged. I apologize for entering into an argument with you because I honestly thought (initially) that you have the intellectual capacity of a full-grown adult, but this obviously is not the case and I feel embarassed for what I have done. Please accept my sincere apologies for so clearly demonstrating straight-forward facts that were clearly beyond your 8-year-old cognitive level and/or which conflicted with your cult-like, fanatic adherence to a political ideology. I meant no harm and, as penance for my folly, I offer you these shiny keys. *jingle jingle*
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Look at my keys. Aren't they pretty? *jingle jingle*
Poor red. It doesn't take much to get you to resort to name calling. I'm embarrassed for you.
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Yes it is typical...Only I made a valid claim, provided ample and unbiased evidence, and was rebuked by logic that only someone who is completely brainwashed could possibly fathom. Out of my frustration, I completely and justifiable point out the fact that, given your inability/unwillingness to accept plain facts, that you are, in fact, retarded. I mean that not as name-calling, but out of my utmost respect and pity for the cognitively challenged. I apologize for entering into an argument with you because I honestly thought (initially) that you have the intellectual capacity of a full-grown adult, but this obviously is not the case and I feel embarassed for what I have done. Please accept my sincere apologies for so clearly demonstrating straight-forward facts that were clearly beyond your 8-year-old cognitive level and/or which conflicted with your cult-like, fanatic adherence to a political ideology. I meant no harm and, as penance for my folly, I offer you these shiny keys. *jingle jingle*
I am sorry for you red. It is unfortunate that you believe that a group populated by dyed-in-the-wool republicans and funded by the GOP is non-partisan. Your claim is invalid, the evidence provided to support the claim is biased, and was shown to be biased by its membership. Only someone completely brainwashed could imagine them to be unbiased. You continue to resort to name calling since you cannot support your position. So, for you red: hypocrite.
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Right "I'm hoping he prefers Libertarians this election (I know, fat chance...)." was terribly partisan.
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
partisan hack like yourself
The only partisan hack in this conversation is yourself. Obviously you believe that only Democrats deserve votes this election. I disagree. Both major parties fail to offer reasonable alternatives, so I chose a third party. Stuff your partisan crap where the sun doesn't shine.
Rob Graham wrote:
Right "I'm hoping he prefers Libertarians this election (I know, fat chance...)." was terribly partisan.
I wasn't referring to the partisan-ness of your response. I'll try to clarify it for you. Your reply to Red Stateler's God prefers Republicans: I'm hoping he prefers Libertarians this election (I know, fat chance...). Your reply to my Republicans prefer Satan: Thanks for the expected daily dose of partisan crap. :mad: So you get pissed at me for posting links to dirty tricks being committed by the Republican party, but you give a light-hearted, friendly reply to Red, who claims that God favors Republicans, based on the weather conditions. Is your hypocricy clear now? When are you going to get pissed at the Republicans on this board who constantly spoute their partisan crap?
Rob Graham wrote:
Obviously you believe that only Democrats deserve votes this election. I disagree. Both major parties fail to offer reasonable alternatives, so I chose a third party.
That's beautiful. What did you do when a third party wasn't a choice? I don't believe Democrats deserve anything. But I do believe Republicans deserve nothing. Unfortunately, the only practical way to make sure they get that is to vote them out, via the Democrats.
A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything. - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Actually, we prefer Beelzebub, but let's not get technical. What I think is hilarious is that, besides the fact that the same lame claims are made each year by the left in order to illegitimize their loss in their eyes, this year they actually preemtively started claiming fraud. Cynthia McKinney claimed over a month ago that Republicans were planning election fraud. Hmmmmmmm... What's interesting is that these are the same tactics used by leftists in third world countries to justify revolutions. What's further interesting is that pretty much all dead people vote Democrat.
Red Stateler wrote:
pretty much all dead people vote Democrat
At least they wait until they're entirely dead!
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