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  • E Ed Gadziemski

    It is time for losing Senator George Allen of Virginia to obey the will of the people. Rather than contest with endless recounts and court battles, he should concede gracefully and step aside in favor of the elected winner of the contest. Our nation does not need the turmoil that endless recounts and litigation would create, and in a democracy such as ours, those who do the right thing are amply rewarded in other ways. The people have spoken. This is an update and summary of comments made by George Bush, James Baker, etc., after the 2000 presidential election when Florida was contested by Al Gore.


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    Stan Shannon
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    Ed Gadziemski wrote:

    This is an update and summary of comments made by George Bush, James Baker, etc., after the 2000 presidential election when Florida was contested by Al Gore

    I don't think anyone was that upset on Gore's first recount request. It was only when they wouldn't stop recounting that it became a problem.

    Thank God for disproportional force.

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    • E Ed Gadziemski

      It is time for losing Senator George Allen of Virginia to obey the will of the people. Rather than contest with endless recounts and court battles, he should concede gracefully and step aside in favor of the elected winner of the contest. Our nation does not need the turmoil that endless recounts and litigation would create, and in a democracy such as ours, those who do the right thing are amply rewarded in other ways. The people have spoken. This is an update and summary of comments made by George Bush, James Baker, etc., after the 2000 presidential election when Florida was contested by Al Gore.


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      Reagan Conservative
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      I'm sure you were the first on your local soapbox to ask The Dems and Al gore to concede the battle in 2000 instead of forcing the issue to the Supreme Court. I just love hypocrites! Why not spend your time trying to sell your vacuum cleaners.

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      • R Reagan Conservative

        I'm sure you were the first on your local soapbox to ask The Dems and Al gore to concede the battle in 2000 instead of forcing the issue to the Supreme Court. I just love hypocrites! Why not spend your time trying to sell your vacuum cleaners.

        John P.

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        Vincent Reynolds
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        jparken wrote:

        I'm sure you were the first on your local soapbox...blah, blah, blah...vacuum cleaners.

        Spoken with a true Republican's understanding and appreciation of irony.

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        • E Ed Gadziemski

          It is time for losing Senator George Allen of Virginia to obey the will of the people. Rather than contest with endless recounts and court battles, he should concede gracefully and step aside in favor of the elected winner of the contest. Our nation does not need the turmoil that endless recounts and litigation would create, and in a democracy such as ours, those who do the right thing are amply rewarded in other ways. The people have spoken. This is an update and summary of comments made by George Bush, James Baker, etc., after the 2000 presidential election when Florida was contested by Al Gore.


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          Diego Moita
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          Ed Gadziemski wrote:

          contest with endless recounts

          How do you recount eletronic votes? Do you run the counter program again to get again exactly the same results?:confused:

          ...there is absolutely no significant idea that stupidity would not know how to apply; stupidity is active in every direction, and can dress up in all the clothes of truth. Truth, on the other hand, has for every occasion only one dress and one path, and is always at a disadvantage...
          Robert Musil, The Man Without Qualities

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          • E Ed Gadziemski

            It is time for losing Senator George Allen of Virginia to obey the will of the people. Rather than contest with endless recounts and court battles, he should concede gracefully and step aside in favor of the elected winner of the contest. Our nation does not need the turmoil that endless recounts and litigation would create, and in a democracy such as ours, those who do the right thing are amply rewarded in other ways. The people have spoken. This is an update and summary of comments made by George Bush, James Baker, etc., after the 2000 presidential election when Florida was contested by Al Gore.


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            _alank
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            Well I think he should be allowed to get his recount but when that is done then he should concede. Today I believe they are just doing the final count but from all that I heard it isn't likely to go in his favor anyway. The recount from what I heard last night is automatic when the election is 1/2 % in Virginia. I haven't seen where it stands at this time?

            Where did my glasses go...

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            • E Ed Gadziemski

              It is time for losing Senator George Allen of Virginia to obey the will of the people. Rather than contest with endless recounts and court battles, he should concede gracefully and step aside in favor of the elected winner of the contest. Our nation does not need the turmoil that endless recounts and litigation would create, and in a democracy such as ours, those who do the right thing are amply rewarded in other ways. The people have spoken. This is an update and summary of comments made by George Bush, James Baker, etc., after the 2000 presidential election when Florida was contested by Al Gore.


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              Jorgen Sigvardsson
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              Two took the bait. :-D

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                Two took the bait. :-D

                -- Bender's humor by Microsoft Joke

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                Reagan Conservative
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                Isn't it past your bedtime? Who cares what you think about American elections. We sure don't give a damn about yours!

                John P.

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                  Two took the bait. :-D

                  -- Bender's humor by Microsoft Joke

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                  Ed Gadziemski
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                  Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                  Two took the bait.

                  They're so easy to reel in I almost feel ashamed of myself. :)


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                  • R Reagan Conservative

                    Isn't it past your bedtime? Who cares what you think about American elections. We sure don't give a damn about yours!

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                    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                    jparken wrote:

                    Isn't it past your bedtime?

                    With that kind of reply, haven't you disqualified yourself from asking that question? :~

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                    • E Ed Gadziemski

                      It is time for losing Senator George Allen of Virginia to obey the will of the people. Rather than contest with endless recounts and court battles, he should concede gracefully and step aside in favor of the elected winner of the contest. Our nation does not need the turmoil that endless recounts and litigation would create, and in a democracy such as ours, those who do the right thing are amply rewarded in other ways. The people have spoken. This is an update and summary of comments made by George Bush, James Baker, etc., after the 2000 presidential election when Florida was contested by Al Gore.


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                      Red Stateler
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                      There's nothing wrong with a recount when requested and executed within legal parameters and when reasonable. Gore didn't do that. He attempted to redefine what constituted a vote in order illegally give himself an advantage through the traditional means of liberal despotism...The American courts.

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                        Ed Gadziemski wrote:

                        contest with endless recounts

                        How do you recount eletronic votes? Do you run the counter program again to get again exactly the same results?:confused:

                        ...there is absolutely no significant idea that stupidity would not know how to apply; stupidity is active in every direction, and can dress up in all the clothes of truth. Truth, on the other hand, has for every occasion only one dress and one path, and is always at a disadvantage...
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                        Dan Neely
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                        Diego Moita wrote:

                        How do you recount eletronic votes?

                        Absentee, and provisional ballots are still paper. The latter are issued if the electronics break down, or a voter's registration can't be confirmed. In the second case the votes aren't counted until the person's right to vote is confirmed.

                        -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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                        • S Stan Shannon

                          Ed Gadziemski wrote:

                          This is an update and summary of comments made by George Bush, James Baker, etc., after the 2000 presidential election when Florida was contested by Al Gore

                          I don't think anyone was that upset on Gore's first recount request. It was only when they wouldn't stop recounting that it became a problem.

                          Thank God for disproportional force.

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                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                          was only when they wouldn't stop recounting that it became a problem

                          Gore requested a recount in 4 Florida counties, and it was not completed before the Supreme Court intervened. So what does 'wouldn't stop recounting ' mean?

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                            There's nothing wrong with a recount when requested and executed within legal parameters and when reasonable. Gore didn't do that. He attempted to redefine what constituted a vote in order illegally give himself an advantage through the traditional means of liberal despotism...The American courts.

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                            Ridiculous! As allowed by Florida law, Gore requested a recount in 4 counties. Some of the counties realized that they would not meet the deadline to certify the votes and sued to extend the deadline. The Bush campaign then filed a Federal lawsuit to prevent the deadline extension, and it all ended up in the Supreme court. So Gore did nothing illegal ( typical red BS ), but if you want to suggest improper motives look at the Bush campaign. He didn't care what the voters wanted - he just wanted to win. So he went to the courts to secure his election. Not illegal, but hardly democratic.

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                            • O oilFactotum

                              Stan Shannon wrote:

                              was only when they wouldn't stop recounting that it became a problem

                              Gore requested a recount in 4 Florida counties, and it was not completed before the Supreme Court intervened. So what does 'wouldn't stop recounting ' mean?

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                              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_recount[^] Good lord, they recounted the damn things for weeks while Gore tried to come up with ever more complex formulas to get the count to work out in his favor. It was a farce. The only reason it wasn't 'finished' is becuase the dems wouldn't accept any of the results.

                              Thank God for disproportional force.

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                                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_recount[^] Good lord, they recounted the damn things for weeks while Gore tried to come up with ever more complex formulas to get the count to work out in his favor. It was a farce. The only reason it wasn't 'finished' is becuase the dems wouldn't accept any of the results.

                                Thank God for disproportional force.

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                                oilFactotum
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                                The link provided deals with the recount performed by several newspapers after the fact, not the actual recount.

                                Stan Shannon wrote:

                                while Gore tried to come up with ever more complex formulas to get the count to work out in his favor. It was a farce

                                That's a nice story, but not true.

                                Stan Shannon wrote:

                                The only reason it wasn't 'finished' is becuase the dems wouldn't accept any of the results.

                                It never got finished because Bush got the Supreme court to intervene. Bush was afraid that he might lose, and would rather the courts, and not the voters, decide the election.

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                                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                                  was only when they wouldn't stop recounting that it became a problem

                                  Gore requested a recount in 4 Florida counties, and it was not completed before the Supreme Court intervened. So what does 'wouldn't stop recounting ' mean?

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                                  'wouldn't stop recounting' means pretty much what it says. Gore's recounts extended past almost all vote certification deadlines in violation of Florida state law. There were in fact multiple recounts, not just one. http://www.uselectionatlas.org/INFORMATION/ARTICLES/pe2000timeline.php[^]


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                                  • E Ed Gadziemski

                                    It is time for losing Senator George Allen of Virginia to obey the will of the people. Rather than contest with endless recounts and court battles, he should concede gracefully and step aside in favor of the elected winner of the contest. Our nation does not need the turmoil that endless recounts and litigation would create, and in a democracy such as ours, those who do the right thing are amply rewarded in other ways. The people have spoken. This is an update and summary of comments made by George Bush, James Baker, etc., after the 2000 presidential election when Florida was contested by Al Gore.


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                                    Ed Gadziemski wrote:

                                    It is time for losing Senator George Allen of Virginia

                                    He lost? I've been in meetings all day. Must have been close eh? I bet losing the support of the maccacs cost him the election. Bigots, you can't live withem, but you can avoid electing them. :-D

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                                      'wouldn't stop recounting' means pretty much what it says. Gore's recounts extended past almost all vote certification deadlines in violation of Florida state law. There were in fact multiple recounts, not just one. http://www.uselectionatlas.org/INFORMATION/ARTICLES/pe2000timeline.php[^]


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                                      oilFactotum
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                                      I guess 'means what it says' it not the same as 'means what actually happened'. Your timeline doesn't say anything about multiple recounts. Gore made one request for recounts in 4 specific counties as allowed by law. If there were external forces that delayed the recount it was the Bushies going to court to stop it. Gore did not cause or force any county to miss any deadline.

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                                      • O oilFactotum

                                        The link provided deals with the recount performed by several newspapers after the fact, not the actual recount.

                                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                                        while Gore tried to come up with ever more complex formulas to get the count to work out in his favor. It was a farce

                                        That's a nice story, but not true.

                                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                                        The only reason it wasn't 'finished' is becuase the dems wouldn't accept any of the results.

                                        It never got finished because Bush got the Supreme court to intervene. Bush was afraid that he might lose, and would rather the courts, and not the voters, decide the election.

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                                        oilFactotum wrote:

                                        Bush was afraid that he might lose, and would rather the courts, and not the voters, decide the election.

                                        What a load of shit. My eyes just took it all in, now I have to send it back out through my ass. Its diarrhea to be specific.

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                                        • R Reagan Conservative

                                          I'm sure you were the first on your local soapbox to ask The Dems and Al gore to concede the battle in 2000 instead of forcing the issue to the Supreme Court. I just love hypocrites! Why not spend your time trying to sell your vacuum cleaners.

                                          John P.

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                                          jparken wrote:

                                          I'm sure you were the first on your local soapbox to ask The Dems and Al gore to concede the battle in 2000 instead of forcing the issue to the Supreme Court. I just love hypocrites!

                                          They don't have sarcasm in your little part of the world? Or can't you read the fine print at the bottom of Ed's post.

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