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  • S Shog9 0

    Paul Watson wrote:

    It seems OK but nothing to rush out for.

    Wait... It's even more limited than the iPod, bigger, and doesn't even work with Microsoft's flagship media product... and that's OK? If it just sat on your desk and smelled bad, would that be "slightly disappointing"? Geez, Paul - i can understand you throwing a bone to the MS fanatics in hopes of not being called an iPod fanboy, but when you, you, mister look on the bright side of Life can't come up with a single good reason for the damn thing to even exist... yeah.

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    Shog9 wrote:

    If it just sat on your desk and smelled bad

    That is what the brown version is for...

    Shog9 wrote:

    but when you, you, mister look on the bright side of Life can't come up with a single good reason for the damn thing to even exist... yeah.

    Well... there were those rabbits... and the drugged up artist chap... getting that from Microsoft was worth it. Apparently the UI is pretty good on the Zune. Lots of swooshing.

    regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

    Shog9 wrote:

    eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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    • P Paul Watson

      Just been reading two reviews of Microsoft's Zune player and while it isn't terrible it isn't going to convert any iPod users or be an iPod killer in the stores. The NYT review[^] is a bit biased IMO (I own an iPod too but jeez author, get a life) but it brings up some frankly weird points about the Zune:

      1. The Zune has WiFi, fantastic. Except you can only use it to send songs to other Zunes. You can't connect to a PC, network or any other WiFi device. WTF?
      2. You can't use it as an external HD. Sorry folks, no USB drive in Explorer for the Zune. WTF?
      3. The screen is bigger. Except it has the same resolution as an iPod.
      4. Real world testing shows poorer battery life than an equivalent iPod (two hours less.) And yet the Zune is bigger and heavier.
      5. No podcast support from what I can tell. Crikey.
      6. Songs are $0.99 but you have to buy credit bundles of $5 or more.
      7. Songs are listed as costing 79 "points" which sounds cool except 79 points will cost you $0.99. Now that is marketing.
      8. The software media player is seemingly a stripped down Windows Media Player. You can't use WMP with your Zune.
      9. Getting all your existing music onto a Zune is a long conversion process if it works at all.

      The other review[^]. It seems OK but nothing to rush out for.

      regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

      Shog9 wrote:

      eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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      wout de zeeuw
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      I just got a 4 GB sansa, just connect to your pc, an explorer pops up, drag and drop your mp3's in the music folder and off you go! :cool: And it's cheaper than the ipod too. I'm never gonna get these restrictive devices like ipod and zune. The ear plugs with the sansa were of inferior quality though. I replaced them with nice Sony ones and now it rocks! :-) Oh, did I say it has an fm tuner too?

      Wout

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      • W wout de zeeuw

        I just got a 4 GB sansa, just connect to your pc, an explorer pops up, drag and drop your mp3's in the music folder and off you go! :cool: And it's cheaper than the ipod too. I'm never gonna get these restrictive devices like ipod and zune. The ear plugs with the sansa were of inferior quality though. I replaced them with nice Sony ones and now it rocks! :-) Oh, did I say it has an fm tuner too?

        Wout

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        Paul Watson
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        A co-worker has a Sansa and it is nicely functional but I don't like the look or feel. Navigating with it is not as easy as with the iPod scroll-wheel. As for the FM tuner I rarely if ever listen to the radio :)

        regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

        Shog9 wrote:

        eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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        • C Christopher Duncan

          Why would you need such a device? Didn't you have that surgery recently where you had RFID chips and all your other technology physically implanted in a place that the kid sister rule prevents me from describing? :)

          Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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          Chris Maunder
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          Yeah, but the battery life sucked.

          cheers, Chris Maunder

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          • L Lost User

            http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/23/ipod_accessory/[^] *cough* OK then...


            Kicking squealing Gucci little piggy.

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            Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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            Now I know what to ask Beth to get me for Christmas... :->

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            • P Paul Watson

              Just been reading two reviews of Microsoft's Zune player and while it isn't terrible it isn't going to convert any iPod users or be an iPod killer in the stores. The NYT review[^] is a bit biased IMO (I own an iPod too but jeez author, get a life) but it brings up some frankly weird points about the Zune:

              1. The Zune has WiFi, fantastic. Except you can only use it to send songs to other Zunes. You can't connect to a PC, network or any other WiFi device. WTF?
              2. You can't use it as an external HD. Sorry folks, no USB drive in Explorer for the Zune. WTF?
              3. The screen is bigger. Except it has the same resolution as an iPod.
              4. Real world testing shows poorer battery life than an equivalent iPod (two hours less.) And yet the Zune is bigger and heavier.
              5. No podcast support from what I can tell. Crikey.
              6. Songs are $0.99 but you have to buy credit bundles of $5 or more.
              7. Songs are listed as costing 79 "points" which sounds cool except 79 points will cost you $0.99. Now that is marketing.
              8. The software media player is seemingly a stripped down Windows Media Player. You can't use WMP with your Zune.
              9. Getting all your existing music onto a Zune is a long conversion process if it works at all.

              The other review[^]. It seems OK but nothing to rush out for.

              regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

              Shog9 wrote:

              eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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              Rohde
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              I think it's very interesting that Microsoft can't get it right. This is not any company we're talking about. This is Microsoft. Not only do they have a huge talent mass, but the talent is also endowed with shitloads of money. What went wrong? Can't they see that all the potential is wasted? My guess is it's something management-wise. But that's only a guess, I have no idea. I guess this will be one of many MS cases for future business students in colleges.


              FAULTLOG.TXT: File too large.

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              • P Paul Watson

                A co-worker has a Sansa and it is nicely functional but I don't like the look or feel. Navigating with it is not as easy as with the iPod scroll-wheel. As for the FM tuner I rarely if ever listen to the radio :)

                regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                Shog9 wrote:

                eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                wout de zeeuw
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                Yeah, it's not as smooth as the ipod probably, but there's nothing without compromise. For me the functional aspect is the most important. I like that it just acts as a usb drive. Btw, there's several sansa models, not sure if your co-worker has the same one. Not all of them have a scroll wheel, but the e200 series have one (though less smooth indeed).

                Wout

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                • P Paul Watson

                  Is that the right approach for hardware though? With all the marketing, hype and ad-spend on the Zune is a second or third round even going to be viable? Apple got it right the first time with the iPod.

                  regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                  Shog9 wrote:

                  eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                  Rocky Moore
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                  Seems to be working for the xBox ;)

                  Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: ASP.NET HttpException - Cannot use leading "..".. Latest Tech Blog Post: Replacing Vista System HD & New things learned!

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                  • R Rocky Moore

                    Seems to be working for the xBox ;)

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                    Paul Watson
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                    Was the first Xbox a failure? I have never used one and don't keep track of it but I thought it had done reasonably well?

                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                    Shog9 wrote:

                    eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                    • P Paul Watson

                      Was the first Xbox a failure? I have never used one and don't keep track of it but I thought it had done reasonably well?

                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                      Shog9 wrote:

                      eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                      Rocky Moore
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                      Not a failure but not a market leader. Now, Xbox 360 is up the ladder and as new features are added, it keeps climbing. With Vista shipping soon, the xBox will make a great media box for your online content, and I believe the Zune player is suppose to be able to communicate with your xBox to play files through it. I think quite a few people expect Microsoft to add TiVo type video features to the Xbox 360 when it was launched, but I figure they had plans to help push the media center features of Windows Vista. I figure the focus at Microsoft is not just another simple audio player but a portable media device integrated to their other components. There are a lot of limitations on this version of the Zune player, but I bet many of them are to make the media owners happy. Personally, I wish Microsoft would buy out Creative and put there products out under a Zune name :)

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