Ideal Intranet Speed...
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peterchen wrote:
two ISDN lines
I honestly had to look up the speed of an ISDN line as I had completely forgotten. :-O 64k or 128k :omg: I know our (work) computers are capped at 10meg (LAN), I can easily down load stuff from MS at speeds of 1.5 Meg. I checked with the NCC (Network Control) folks each building has different needs and different connections to the corporate network. Some buildings have redundant Fiber lines for example. At home I have a 1.5 Meg DSL connection, which for my needs is usually fast enough.
peterchen wrote:
It's like running a business in Siberia
I hear Siberia has about the same climate as parts of Minnesota and just as many mosquitos. :rolleyes:
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After reunion, Telekom replaced the old copper phone lines with modern high end optical fiber, so we are ready for the future. :doh: Cable companies don't get their act together, Internet over Powerline works until the lady in the next apartment starts vacuum, via Sattelite dish doesn't give us upload, everything wireless works only when the sun shines - and this ain't California. My DSL line at home (10 minutes by bicycle away) currently does 3.3 MBit. :jig: Besides Internet, the office is great.
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After reunion, Telekom replaced the old copper phone lines with modern high end optical fiber, so we are ready for the future. :doh: Cable companies don't get their act together, Internet over Powerline works until the lady in the next apartment starts vacuum, via Sattelite dish doesn't give us upload, everything wireless works only when the sun shines - and this ain't California. My DSL line at home (10 minutes by bicycle away) currently does 3.3 MBit. :jig: Besides Internet, the office is great.
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Linkify!|Fold With Us!peterchen wrote:
Internet over Powerline works until the lady in the next apartment starts vacuum
Have you used this type of service? The only thing I have seen / heard was its still in the experimental stages. I'm not sure how many people, my self include would be very tolerant of outages caused by the neighbors vacuum cleaner, not to mention potential security issues.
peterchen wrote:
My DSL line at home (10 minutes by bicycle away) currently does 3.3 MBit.
That's not bad; I hear that cable companies around here are now offering 10 Meg lines, at something like 60 bucks a month. I just doubled checked, it would seem Qwest is now offering a 3-5 Meg DSL line, which isn’t bad (didn’t look for pricing for it).
I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:
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peterchen wrote:
Internet over Powerline works until the lady in the next apartment starts vacuum
Have you used this type of service? The only thing I have seen / heard was its still in the experimental stages. I'm not sure how many people, my self include would be very tolerant of outages caused by the neighbors vacuum cleaner, not to mention potential security issues.
peterchen wrote:
My DSL line at home (10 minutes by bicycle away) currently does 3.3 MBit.
That's not bad; I hear that cable companies around here are now offering 10 Meg lines, at something like 60 bucks a month. I just doubled checked, it would seem Qwest is now offering a 3-5 Meg DSL line, which isn’t bad (didn’t look for pricing for it).
I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:
S Douglas wrote:
I hear that cable companies around here are now offering 10 Meg lines, at something like 60 bucks a month.
My ISP provides up to 24Meg via ADSL, at around AU$40 a month, but the actual speed you achieve is dependent on your distance from the exchange. I get around 4Meg, because I'm right on the outer limit of the ADSL range :(. I know of guys who get around 20Meg because they're a lot closer.
Ryan
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peterchen wrote:
Internet over Powerline works until the lady in the next apartment starts vacuum
Have you used this type of service? The only thing I have seen / heard was its still in the experimental stages. I'm not sure how many people, my self include would be very tolerant of outages caused by the neighbors vacuum cleaner, not to mention potential security issues.
peterchen wrote:
My DSL line at home (10 minutes by bicycle away) currently does 3.3 MBit.
That's not bad; I hear that cable companies around here are now offering 10 Meg lines, at something like 60 bucks a month. I just doubled checked, it would seem Qwest is now offering a 3-5 Meg DSL line, which isn’t bad (didn’t look for pricing for it).
I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:
Yes, we've tried that at work, and friend tried it at home. basically, if it works, it works well, but the "if" strongly depends on the quality of the pwoer lines and how many disturbances you get in / get through.In germany this stuff usually has to comply to high standards, and still.. We gave up on it.
S Douglas wrote:
That's not bad;
:) Had a friend with Mac Notebook + Modem come over to update his machine. When he saw the download speed he just said quietly: "That's not just normal DSL, is it?"
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S Douglas wrote:
I hear that cable companies around here are now offering 10 Meg lines, at something like 60 bucks a month.
My ISP provides up to 24Meg via ADSL, at around AU$40 a month, but the actual speed you achieve is dependent on your distance from the exchange. I get around 4Meg, because I'm right on the outer limit of the ADSL range :(. I know of guys who get around 20Meg because they're a lot closer.
Ryan
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Ryan Binns wrote:
My ISP provides up to 24Meg via ADSL, at around AU$40 a month
Nice. :cool:
Ryan Binns wrote:
I get around 4Meg, because I'm right on the outer limit of the ADSL range
Thats still pretty decent, alot better than Dial up.
Ryan Binns wrote:
I know of guys who get around 20Meg because they're a lot closer.
Now you’re just bragging. :)
I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:
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Yes, we've tried that at work, and friend tried it at home. basically, if it works, it works well, but the "if" strongly depends on the quality of the pwoer lines and how many disturbances you get in / get through.In germany this stuff usually has to comply to high standards, and still.. We gave up on it.
S Douglas wrote:
That's not bad;
:) Had a friend with Mac Notebook + Modem come over to update his machine. When he saw the download speed he just said quietly: "That's not just normal DSL, is it?"
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Linkify!|Fold With Us!peterchen wrote:
Yes, we've tried that at work, and friend tried it at home. basically, if it works, it works well, but the "if" strongly depends on the quality of the pwoer lines and how many disturbances you get in / get through
To bad it’s so susceptible to interference, those living in rural areas I’m sure would love the option of high speed internet access.
peterchen wrote:
Had a friend with Mac Notebook + Modem
Why did he bring a modem? Or did you mean network card?
peterchen wrote:
"That's not just normal DSL, is it?"
I would have been tempted to say “No, its enterprisey DSL” :rolleyes:
I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:
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peterchen wrote:
Yes, we've tried that at work, and friend tried it at home. basically, if it works, it works well, but the "if" strongly depends on the quality of the pwoer lines and how many disturbances you get in / get through
To bad it’s so susceptible to interference, those living in rural areas I’m sure would love the option of high speed internet access.
peterchen wrote:
Had a friend with Mac Notebook + Modem
Why did he bring a modem? Or did you mean network card?
peterchen wrote:
"That's not just normal DSL, is it?"
I would have been tempted to say “No, its enterprisey DSL” :rolleyes:
I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:
S Douglas wrote:
Why did he bring a modem?
He didn't bring, he normally I meant he only has a 56kBit phone moden connection (after that failed Powerline episode..) - so it takes a few overnighters to download what he did here in half an hour.
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S Douglas wrote:
Why did he bring a modem?
He didn't bring, he normally I meant he only has a 56kBit phone moden connection (after that failed Powerline episode..) - so it takes a few overnighters to download what he did here in half an hour.
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Phew.. after inspecting few branch of my company (in not-so-remote-area), i came out with single conclusion : our intranet bandwitdh is too slow (only 2KB/s!!) :mad: do you know how much the ideal intranet speed ? since they need only to access few web application and one web application with ActiveX inside. Comments are welcome. :):)
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Aryo Handono. wrote:
our intranet bandwitdh is too slow (only 2KB/s!!)
2KB per Sec! Is someone running the 1's and 0's back and forth between the locations on foot? The very first modems operated at 300 kpbs how are these locations connected?
I think you might be confusing bytes per second with bits per second. Usually, data transfer speed is measured in bits per second, individual 1's and 0's. This is helpful because it doesn't matter whether or not you are running on a 16-bit, 32-bit, or 64-bit system. It can be tough to distinguish the difference, but if you pay attention to the capitalization, it can be done. 2KB/s is 2 kilobytes or 2,000 bytes. A byte (for example) is 32 bits so 2KB/s is 64,000 bits per second. Early modems were 300 baud or 300 bits (bits, not byes) per second. 300 bits is the same as approx. 9 bytes (in a 32-bit system). The speed comparison in KB/s is 2KB/s vs. 0.009 KB/s The speed comparison in bps is 64,000 bits/s vs. 300 bits/s With regard to the original post, I recommend checking out AuBeta Networks (www.aubeta.com). I do not work for them and gain nothing for a referral. I have used them in the past to connect multiple offices together and they were great to work with. I highly recommend them! -E
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Ryan Binns wrote:
My ISP provides up to 24Meg via ADSL, at around AU$40 a month
Nice. :cool:
Ryan Binns wrote:
I get around 4Meg, because I'm right on the outer limit of the ADSL range
Thats still pretty decent, alot better than Dial up.
Ryan Binns wrote:
I know of guys who get around 20Meg because they're a lot closer.
Now you’re just bragging. :)
I'd love to help, but unfortunatley I have prior commitments monitoring the length of my grass. :Andrew Bleakley:
Yup, my ADSL2+ is currently connected at 18Mb/s downlink with a 1MB/s uplink. And I thought Australia had poor broadband speeds compared to other industrialised nations! Incidentally, my ISP has just launched their ADSL2+M service, which allows you to sacrifice some downlink speed for greater uplink bandwidth. Might be useful if I need to host something temporarily.
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I think you might be confusing bytes per second with bits per second. Usually, data transfer speed is measured in bits per second, individual 1's and 0's. This is helpful because it doesn't matter whether or not you are running on a 16-bit, 32-bit, or 64-bit system. It can be tough to distinguish the difference, but if you pay attention to the capitalization, it can be done. 2KB/s is 2 kilobytes or 2,000 bytes. A byte (for example) is 32 bits so 2KB/s is 64,000 bits per second. Early modems were 300 baud or 300 bits (bits, not byes) per second. 300 bits is the same as approx. 9 bytes (in a 32-bit system). The speed comparison in KB/s is 2KB/s vs. 0.009 KB/s The speed comparison in bps is 64,000 bits/s vs. 300 bits/s With regard to the original post, I recommend checking out AuBeta Networks (www.aubeta.com). I do not work for them and gain nothing for a referral. I have used them in the past to connect multiple offices together and they were great to work with. I highly recommend them! -E
Elroy Skimms wrote:
A byte (for example) is 32 bits
Let’s assume that a byte is actually 8 bits, since that is what a byte has been defined as for the past two decades. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte[^] 2KBytes == 16Kbits 2KBytes != 64Kbits To stay on topic though... If you want to diagnose your current issues check out some of the suff over at http://www.dslreports.com/tools[^]. Don’t bother signing up at the site, the tools you need are available anyway. Tron
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Elroy Skimms wrote:
A byte (for example) is 32 bits
Let’s assume that a byte is actually 8 bits, since that is what a byte has been defined as for the past two decades. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte[^] 2KBytes == 16Kbits 2KBytes != 64Kbits To stay on topic though... If you want to diagnose your current issues check out some of the suff over at http://www.dslreports.com/tools[^]. Don’t bother signing up at the site, the tools you need are available anyway. Tron
Tron 78 wrote:
2KBytes == 16Kbits 2KBytes != 64Kbits
Tron, Thanks for catching my conversion error. I'm a programmer by trade and for my work, a "byte" on a 32-bit system is made up of 32 binary bits. I was lazy and just ran with that number rather than doing actual research. I probably should have guessed that a standard which has been around longer than I would be based on 8-bit computing and not 32-bit. -E
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Tron 78 wrote:
2KBytes == 16Kbits 2KBytes != 64Kbits
Tron, Thanks for catching my conversion error. I'm a programmer by trade and for my work, a "byte" on a 32-bit system is made up of 32 binary bits. I was lazy and just ran with that number rather than doing actual research. I probably should have guessed that a standard which has been around longer than I would be based on 8-bit computing and not 32-bit. -E
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Byte == 8 Bits - All current systems since 8 Bit systems are the same x64 and x32 have different word sizes not different Byte sizes Tron
Tron 78 wrote:
Byte == 8 Bits - All current systems since 8 Bit systems are the same x64 and x32 have different word sizes not different Byte sizes
Agreed. I should have been more specific. Instead of:
Elroy Skimms wrote:
a "byte" on a 32-bit system is made up of 32 binary bits
Elroy Skimms should have written:
a 32-bit integer is made up of 32 binary bits
We now return you to the conclusion of your regularly scheduled thread conversation without any further interruptions... :) -E