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  • L Lost User

    About a month ago our flat was broken into. My wallet was stolen with my drivers licence, credit cards and other bits and my girld friends purse with the same things, her birth certificate and an expired passport. She got a phone call from GE consumer finance today as someone had attempted to obtain credit in her name using the stolen identification. I've contacted the credit reference authority here and paid $80 for each of us to have our files flagged so that we will recieve an email every time a company attempts to obtain our credit details. The whole situation has got me a bit worried. Any idea what else I can do?

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    Michael A Barnhart
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    Josh Gray wrote:

    She got a phone call from GE consumer finance today as someone had attempted to obtain credit in her name using the stolen identification.

    That stinks. Good luck, My wifes wallet was stolen back in 1992 and 2 local stores still will not take her check/credit card, due to identity questions. (well not sure how long ago we last tried. :) )

    Josh Gray wrote:

    I've contacted the credit reference authority here and paid $80 for each of us to have our files flag

    That also stinks, here in the states the authorities may not charge a fee. Although plenty of companies provide the assitance to notify for a fee.

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      Th report companies make thier money selling the numbers to creditors and consumers. Their contract probably precludes showing it to you at all.

      -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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      Nish Nishant
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      dan neely wrote:

      Th report companies make thier money selling the numbers to creditors and consumers. Their contract probably precludes showing it to you at all.

      Yeah, that sounds like it.

      Regards, Nish


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      • P Pierre Leclercq

        When I was in this situation of trying to buy a car, I did a loan application on a paper sheet, and then someone typed it. At that time I was not aware of the credit bureaus. This is only later when I finally acquired a credit report, I discovered the person who had typed the loan infos had mispelled my last name. And how strange it might look, the credit bureau had recorded this as a new name listed under my SSN!!! I come from a country where changing name is not meant to happen, and this was a very big surprise that their databases record false datas without even trying to verify them. Afterwards that sounds scary. Some employers do background checks on their employees. They can easily pull data from various types of databases. I wonder how this can impact employee reviews when they find all sorts of incorrect datas. Hopefully, in most of the case they are honest and can sort through the incorrect infos.

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        Nish Nishant
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        Pierre Leclercq wrote:

        And how strange it might look, the credit bureau had recorded this as a new name listed under my SSN!!!

        That *is* scary!!!

        Regards, Nish


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        • N Nish Nishant

          Christian Graus wrote:

          The system is designed to give credit, not limit it.

          That has not been my experience so far. As someone new to the States, I have been automatically categorized as a potential bad credit guy. Whatever happened to innocent-until-proven-guilty? :-(

          Regards, Nish


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          Jasmine2501
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          If you're not a citizen established in this country, then you are flight risk. That's one of the highest risks in the credit game - that the person may take off to another country and never be heard from again. It's nothing about you personally, which is usually what they consider.

          "Quality Software since 1983!" http://www.smoothjazzy.com/

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          • P pg az

            Their simple gimmick is to keep you on CONTINUOUS fraud alert - when the 90-day limit expires, they set the alerts again. Fraud-alert-inflation, but the guarantee sounds good to me !

            pg--az

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            Jasmine2501
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            On the news a couple nights back, they talked about these companies that promise to get your identity back or protect it in the first place. The consensus was that these companies are either in bed with the criminals in the first place, or they offer a service you could do for yourself for less money. Make sure they detail exactly what services they are providing. If it's simply checking your credit report every so often, you can do that yourself for free. Many banks also offer services to prevent fraud.

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            • J Jeremy Falcon

              Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

              Whatever happened to innocent-until-proven-guilty?

              No credit is just as bad as bad credit. You need a credit history is all.

              Jeremy Falcon A multithreaded, OpenGL-enabled application.[^]

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              Jeremy Falcon wrote:

              You need a credit history is all

              Eh?


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                On the news a couple nights back, they talked about these companies that promise to get your identity back or protect it in the first place. The consensus was that these companies are either in bed with the criminals in the first place, or they offer a service you could do for yourself for less money. Make sure they detail exactly what services they are providing. If it's simply checking your credit report every so often, you can do that yourself for free. Many banks also offer services to prevent fraud.

                "Quality Software since 1983!" http://www.smoothjazzy.com/

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                My few months experience with lifelock.com indicates They seem to be successful with the "continuous fraud alert" I know this because I have now received my second batch of "you are on fraud alert" notifications. Like I say the ultimate effect of this "Fraud Alert Inflation" may not be good, that is, if 100% of consumers were on continuous fraud alert, it would have no value. But in the meantime, this fraud alert seems likely to have some value. Secondly, I don't get hardly any credit-card-invites in the mail anymore They were successful in taking me of the list for those. I still get a couple from my alumni-association-memberships, that is somewhat different. Plus which googling lifelock or following their press-links, the "consensus" is they must have fooled CNN and ABC, etc.

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                  Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                  You need a credit history is all

                  Eh?


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                  David Wulff wrote:

                  Eh?

                  Over here at least your credit score is determined by how much credit you have. It's kind a catch-22.

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                    My few months experience with lifelock.com indicates They seem to be successful with the "continuous fraud alert" I know this because I have now received my second batch of "you are on fraud alert" notifications. Like I say the ultimate effect of this "Fraud Alert Inflation" may not be good, that is, if 100% of consumers were on continuous fraud alert, it would have no value. But in the meantime, this fraud alert seems likely to have some value. Secondly, I don't get hardly any credit-card-invites in the mail anymore They were successful in taking me of the list for those. I still get a couple from my alumni-association-memberships, that is somewhat different. Plus which googling lifelock or following their press-links, the "consensus" is they must have fooled CNN and ABC, etc.

                    pg--az

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                    I'm not saying they're worthless, just suspicious. Removal from the mailing lists is a nice feature. You should commit some fraud and see if they catch it. Sending you notices doesn't mean they are actually doing anything but sending out notices. The whole company could be a kid in his mom's basement sending out reminder emails. (Lifelock seems to be legit) This is an effort to protect you from a crime. I was under the impression that there was already a group of folks who are supposed to protect us from crimes. This service is kind of like having a burglar alarm I think... but what happens when it goes off? Also you should keep in mind that I know nothing about this specific company. I'm only passing on a warning about this type of company. (I saw this warning either on Jim Lehrer or my local news, not sure which but those are the only ones I watch) I hope you realise the falsehood in the last sentence you said there...

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                    • C canOgrog

                      Very true that this how the world works!!! I suppose people live with things like this, but it should change depending on the circumstances you're in. This poor soul has had a crime committed against him... shouldn't this become an exception for help? It's fair to say I'd trust my own programs given decent testing! But I haven't looked into (or thought) how a program like this might work, it's just something off the cuff and I'd need to put a lot of thought into it. I don't actually know how Norton's password management works to be honest; I should have a try of it before I pass it off!

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                      It's a really interesting idea - an idea for a colabarative project! Feel like starting it? I'm game if you are.

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                      • N Nish Nishant

                        brucerchapman wrote:

                        Just borrow a small amount of money ($2-3,000) for something like a very cheap car. Pay it back over a period of 3/4 months (based on your affordability, of course!). After two payments, someone will give you a $500 credit card. Get one of those. Max it out on stuff and pay it down a couple of times. Hey presto! Instant credit! You'll be flooded with credit cards in the post now

                        Thanks for the tip. I have a car already (drove it from Canada). So I can't get a car loan. But I'll see if I can get a personal loan of some sort.

                        Regards, Nish


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                        Hi Nish, Try getting a secure credit card. Any of the bank would approve a secure credit card with very limited credit on it, as long as you have enough money to cover it in a bank account with them. And just use that credit card for your regular bill payments for few months and you will have enough credit to get a regular credit card. Ankita

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                          Hi Nish, Try getting a secure credit card. Any of the bank would approve a secure credit card with very limited credit on it, as long as you have enough money to cover it in a bank account with them. And just use that credit card for your regular bill payments for few months and you will have enough credit to get a regular credit card. Ankita

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                          Nish Nishant
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                          ankita patel wrote:

                          Try getting a secure credit card. Any of the bank would approve a secure credit card with very limited credit on it, as long as you have enough money to cover it in a bank account with them. And just use that credit card for your regular bill payments for few months and you will have enough credit to get a regular credit card.

                          Thanks Ankita. That's what I am going to do now.

                          Regards, Nish


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                          • J Jeremy Falcon

                            David Wulff wrote:

                            Eh?

                            Over here at least your credit score is determined by how much credit you have. It's kind a catch-22.

                            Jeremy Falcon A multithreaded, OpenGL-enabled application.[^]

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                            The eh was because I dind't understand what you said. I am not familiar with the term "is all".


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                              The eh was because I dind't understand what you said. I am not familiar with the term "is all".


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                              Jeremy Falcon
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                              David Wulff wrote:

                              I am not familiar with the term "is all".

                              Ah. It just means that's the only thing stopping him. It's not because he's Indian but because of no credit history over here. Only need to change that and things will get better.

                              Jeremy Falcon A multithreaded, OpenGL-enabled application.[^]

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                              • L leckey 0

                                They probably profiled you based on your name.

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                                Lilith C
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                                It's nothing personal. At least I don't think it is. Six years ago I bought my house and a credit check showed my credit rating to be just shy of 800. A year later I got my first name changed and two months after that went to get buy a car. My credit report came back "Limited credit history." Apparently my credit wasn't tracked by my Social Security number. Lilith

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                                  I'm not saying they're worthless, just suspicious. Removal from the mailing lists is a nice feature. You should commit some fraud and see if they catch it. Sending you notices doesn't mean they are actually doing anything but sending out notices. The whole company could be a kid in his mom's basement sending out reminder emails. (Lifelock seems to be legit) This is an effort to protect you from a crime. I was under the impression that there was already a group of folks who are supposed to protect us from crimes. This service is kind of like having a burglar alarm I think... but what happens when it goes off? Also you should keep in mind that I know nothing about this specific company. I'm only passing on a warning about this type of company. (I saw this warning either on Jim Lehrer or my local news, not sure which but those are the only ones I watch) I hope you realise the falsehood in the last sentence you said there...

                                  "Quality Software since 1983!" http://www.smoothjazzy.com/

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                                  >> I was under the impression that there was already a group of folks who are supposed to protect us from crimes. << The subject warned the reader, that at your invitation, we now venture outside the box, we dare to question "what, a box, who put us in this box ?" I can't remember the name of the PBS video in which they show that while ducks have simple pair-bonding software, ( I saw the video, "believe it or not" ) ostriches WILL trust one mommy to guard the eggs of the entire gang of ostrich-moms. Hence, as proved on tape, mommy ostriches have evolved to be able to tell which eggs are HERS, when resources become scarce. Recently I asked this question of PBS, no response yet: http://discussions.pbs.org/viewforum.pbs?f=175&sid=8fc27c9e364d8ac394c871c58a8e2b9e Monopolies intrinsically tend to rot, and government falls into that category, sigh. But you have probably also thought deeply on this, your "under the impression" suggests tongue-in-cheek, right ?

                                  pg--az

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                                    It's a really interesting idea - an idea for a colabarative project! Feel like starting it? I'm game if you are.

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                                    Well, the problem is with passwords in the first place. You can't keep them secure and keep them useable at the same time. Biometrics may be an answer to that, but it's unreliable in some special cases. The base problem with identity theft is that the commonly accepted set of information doesn't really prove that you are who you say you are. In most cases a Photo ID is all that's needed to identify yourself, and anyone under 21 knows how worthless that idea is. What we need, and I've been thinking about this a long time, is some way to identify yourself remotely which would be impossible for a third party to replicate. You know, humans recognise each other by looking at their faces usually. Nobody can steal that from you, but almost any form of ID that is detachable from your person, can be copied, stolen or spoofed. "You'll steal my identity over my dead, faceless body!"

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                                      >> I was under the impression that there was already a group of folks who are supposed to protect us from crimes. << The subject warned the reader, that at your invitation, we now venture outside the box, we dare to question "what, a box, who put us in this box ?" I can't remember the name of the PBS video in which they show that while ducks have simple pair-bonding software, ( I saw the video, "believe it or not" ) ostriches WILL trust one mommy to guard the eggs of the entire gang of ostrich-moms. Hence, as proved on tape, mommy ostriches have evolved to be able to tell which eggs are HERS, when resources become scarce. Recently I asked this question of PBS, no response yet: http://discussions.pbs.org/viewforum.pbs?f=175&sid=8fc27c9e364d8ac394c871c58a8e2b9e Monopolies intrinsically tend to rot, and government falls into that category, sigh. But you have probably also thought deeply on this, your "under the impression" suggests tongue-in-cheek, right ?

                                      pg--az

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                                      Yeah. The cops are pretty worthless at preventing crime. Not too bad at catching people after the fact, but that doesn't help too much. I'll actually use my Biology degree for once and answer your other question. The thing about ostriches is fairly common in the animal world. Humans do it all the time. Usually the behavior is confined within family units, so the act of protecting eggs that aren't yours results in increased propogation of some of your genes, since you are all related. In hard times though, priority goes to your own offspring. Behavioral genetics is all about genes that define instinctive behaviors that have the sole purpose of propogating the rest of the genome. "Selfish genes" are concerned with nothing beyond survival to the next generation, so the concept can be used to explain seemingly altruistic behaviors in animal populations and to some extent, human beings. I often wonder if my transgender condition has something to do with this. It's not important for me to procreate because I have 3 brothers... it's more important to have an extra hand in the nurturing role since the family is overloaded with males. Thus, there is pressure to switch gender roles in order to ensure survival of the family. Of course, humans fight these instincts so I have two kids of my own - possibly resulting in propogation of transgender 'ability' to the next generation. (note, we are concerned with behavior here (gender roles), not physiology(sexual roles), as is seen in the sex-switching frogs) /now that I read your PBS question I figure you probly understand all that, but I'm not going to un-type it :)

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                                        Yeah. The cops are pretty worthless at preventing crime. Not too bad at catching people after the fact, but that doesn't help too much. I'll actually use my Biology degree for once and answer your other question. The thing about ostriches is fairly common in the animal world. Humans do it all the time. Usually the behavior is confined within family units, so the act of protecting eggs that aren't yours results in increased propogation of some of your genes, since you are all related. In hard times though, priority goes to your own offspring. Behavioral genetics is all about genes that define instinctive behaviors that have the sole purpose of propogating the rest of the genome. "Selfish genes" are concerned with nothing beyond survival to the next generation, so the concept can be used to explain seemingly altruistic behaviors in animal populations and to some extent, human beings. I often wonder if my transgender condition has something to do with this. It's not important for me to procreate because I have 3 brothers... it's more important to have an extra hand in the nurturing role since the family is overloaded with males. Thus, there is pressure to switch gender roles in order to ensure survival of the family. Of course, humans fight these instincts so I have two kids of my own - possibly resulting in propogation of transgender 'ability' to the next generation. (note, we are concerned with behavior here (gender roles), not physiology(sexual roles), as is seen in the sex-switching frogs) /now that I read your PBS question I figure you probly understand all that, but I'm not going to un-type it :)

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                                        Xlnt - you must know the details I forget, I saw somewhere that entire SPECIES of insects avoid getting eaten by imitating the coloration of Insects with some actual deterrent, poison or whatever, kind of "stealing the other Insect's card". Imagine some predator eating one of the fake insects, exclaiming "YUM", and then it eats one of the real insects and gets poisoned. Via the magic of the Internet just remembering << "Paul Davies" "nature got there first" >> confirms that is one of his favorite memes.

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                                          It's a really interesting idea - an idea for a colabarative project! Feel like starting it? I'm game if you are.

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                                          canOgrog
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                                          Actually my creative mind is at a standstill, so I don't quite know how it'd work. Also, me and my ex-colleague are thinking of starting up a small business in web design, so I have to focus all my non-working hours into that!

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