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... so I used an old bible I had been using for cigarette paper.

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    Adnan Siddiqi
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    I also learnt about your ex-Religion. I assume you were a Bible follower. I could say that because you used the term 'toilet paper' for Koran and 'cigarette paper' for Bible. At one side you want to prove yourself a person who rejects all religion and on other hand you still have a soft corner for christianity/judaism and some day pope stan shannon could make you to accept bible again. I thankyou once again to give a proof that all of your anti-Religion thought is based on Islam only.

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      led mike wrote:

      Yes, well we condem all sorts of things that still happen on a regular basis so.... what is your point?

      That atheists regard competing religious beliefs as lumped together with "all sorts of things", but defend their own religious beliefs with a fervor comparable to Islam.

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      Well putting aside the fact that in your view mockery of religion by atheists should be condemned while it is perfectly OK for you to continually "condemn" atheists entirely :rolleyes: (You really should consider starting your own country so that you can control everything that everyone is allowed to say, do and think)... my question clearly was, what is the point in "condemning" religious mockery?

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        Well putting aside the fact that in your view mockery of religion by atheists should be condemned while it is perfectly OK for you to continually "condemn" atheists entirely :rolleyes: (You really should consider starting your own country so that you can control everything that everyone is allowed to say, do and think)... my question clearly was, what is the point in "condemning" religious mockery?

        led mike

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        But I thought atheism wasn't a religion... Besides, I don't mock atheism in the way that fat_boy mocked Islam (even though mockery of other religions is a religious practice for atheists). I criticise it and say specifically why it's flawed and worthy of criticism.

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          Rob Graham wrote:

          We don't kill those who blaspheme, or riot and burn property over words or cartoons.

          Sure they/you do.

          If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week Zac

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          Name a single example with the past 100 years.

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            Rob Graham wrote:

            We don't kill those who blaspheme,

            Because you're blasphemious yourself and don't need someone else but you guys get mad about *Evoluttion* =). Anyway I'm not in mood to make a search on google about examples of aethists' extreemism plus extreemist doesn't mean killing someone. The reaction of Fat and your IS extreemist but verbally because you can't kill me on this forum.

            Rob Graham wrote:

            Only Muslims are that intemperate and violent. Must be a weak faith that is so easily threatened.

            I think your kids used to swear at you and your wife all the time in the name of Freedom of expression. I also believe that Stan's kids used to pee on his face like he showed pic of Jesus[AS] because It's all about tolerence? Better you bastards keep your filthy reasons to yourself.

            Rob Graham wrote:

            Must be a weak faith that is so easily threatened.

            I don't care whether its a weaker faith or stronger. All I know It's spreading all over the world despite of infinite shit propagated by morons like you. deal with it!. As i said again that such *tacticts* are not doing anything harmful against us or Islam, such lame moves infact making non-muslims more curious to know further about Islam, they read about it and many accept it. The day you morons understand the nature of curiosity in humans then you would try your best to say anything crappy against Islam or muslims.

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            Thank you for proving my point. You are a model of Islamic tolerance.

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                fat_boy wrote:

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                Probably tasted pretty bad too as it wasn't designed for that purpose :laugh:

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                • A Adnan Siddiqi

                  Actually I had been waiting for some instance on this forum to proove that non-believers are not less extreemist than believers/religious followers. In the presence of guys like Ed,Bassam and Nish[sometimes he does go insane but not much] it was not easy to prove since these guys tried their best to be neautral. I thankyou that you proved my point today. Surely aethits are not saints and they do follow a religion;to offend religion because they don't follow it. I also discovered it why you are a disbeliever. Offcourse everything got stuck in your ass and didn't get a way to come in your mind, hence you're unable to comprehend religion(s) or anyother thing. If verbal masturbation can help you to getrid of sperms of ignorance then we must all support you. Carry on as It doesn't hurt anyone.

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                  Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                  Actually I had been waiting for some instance on this forum to proove that non-believers are not less extreemist than believers/religious followers. In the presence of guys like Ed,Bassam and Nish[sometimes he does go insane but not much] it was not easy to prove since these guys tried their best to be neautral.

                  They probably became disenchanted about religion when they found out Santa Klaus wasn't real or even Christian :laugh: Their are however neutral people who are say... spiritual and just find it hard to believe in religion(s) that has been tainted by the hands of men. The best religion is one that you keep to yourself...

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                    :laugh:

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                      Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                      Actually I had been waiting for some instance on this forum to proove that non-believers are not less extreemist

                      Bullshit. We don't kill those who blaspheme, or riot and burn property over words or cartoons. Only Muslims are that intemperate and violent. Must be a weak faith that is so easily threatened.

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                      Rob Graham wrote:

                      Only Muslims are that intemperate and violent

                      That is untrue. Violence from ultra-orthodox Jews may halt gay march in Jerusalem[^] Two homemade bombs found on the roof of a movie theater where ``The Last Temptation of Christ`` was playing [^] Hard-line Hindus, bent on stopping love-struck couples from celebrating Valentine's Day, went on a rampage...in many parts of the country, invading gift shops, burning cards and disrupting festivities[^]


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                        Name a single example with the past 100 years.

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                        There have been riots resulting in many deaths in Africa and Asia in recent years (this side of the millenium) carried out by groups calling themselves Christians. I can't recall the names of the countries though to gather some links, but hopefully someone here will be able to help? Or how about the various genocides that have happened over the past 100 years? Don't forget, 96% of Rwandians were following the various flavours of Christianity before the 1994 genocide. More than half of them were devout Catholics. The Muslim population actually increased from 4% to 14% after the murdering had slowed because it was the Muslims in those communities who were giving shelter to the people being exterminated. And let's not forget all the Catholic vs. Protestant riots and the violence and deaths that resulted all throughout the last 50 years in Northern Island - they all called themselves Christians. (And those aren't including IRA actions.) Most of those have been over petty things like land or perceived provocation. If you really compiled the evidence that's out there, you could probably find a major example from every one of those past one hundred years.


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                          Name a single example with the past 100 years.

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                          I assume you mean examples of Christians killing non-belivers? (or do you mean Atheists killing believers?) In either case, the post before me mentions the Christian ones (at least some of them) ... and we can even go back as far as the birth of Christianity to see such actions. As for atheism, there is the mass genocides that occured in the USSR under Lenin and Stalin (much of which was largely due to religion), along with the same in China. It is nothing new to kill someone who doesn't think they way you do -- and it is quite common even in the most passive religions (and yes, atheism is a religion).

                          If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week Zac

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                            But I thought atheism wasn't a religion... Besides, I don't mock atheism in the way that fat_boy mocked Islam (even though mockery of other religions is a religious practice for atheists). I criticise it and say specifically why it's flawed and worthy of criticism.

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                            So I guess you are not going to answer my question. Shocking... no really it is

                            "When your argument falls apart...resort to name-calling."
                            Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                            Whereas "liberal" is just a moron.
                            Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                            typical left-wing pseudo-intellectual crackpot
                            Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                            Actually you applied an incorrect and personal interpretation of "freedom"
                            Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                            That's why Muslims need to be absolutely destroyed.
                            Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

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                              So I guess you are not going to answer my question. Shocking... no really it is

                              "When your argument falls apart...resort to name-calling."
                              Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                              Whereas "liberal" is just a moron.
                              Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                              typical left-wing pseudo-intellectual crackpot
                              Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                              Actually you applied an incorrect and personal interpretation of "freedom"
                              Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                              That's why Muslims need to be absolutely destroyed.
                              Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                              led mike

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                              I did. You just missed it.

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                                :laugh:

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                                Show me how you can do that with a coin? ;P


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                                • R Red Stateler

                                  Alvaro Mendez wrote:

                                  Finding humor in the mockery does not necessarily equate to supporting it.

                                  Not only did you find it humorous, but you expressed your satisfaction with his statement and extended it by asking "which holy book have you found most gentle on your ass?", thereby demonstrating clear support.

                                  Alvaro Mendez wrote:

                                  You were also amused by his Koran mockery. Admit it.

                                  No. I found it to be devoid of humor. I also believe that fruitless mockery of religion such as his (regardless of the religion) should be condemned. The point he proved was that the one person to voice support over religious mockery was you...an atheist.

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                                  Red Stateler wrote:

                                  Alvaro Mendez wrote: Finding humor in the mockery does not necessarily equate to supporting it. Not only did you find it humorous, but you expressed your satisfaction with his statement and extended it by asking "which holy book have you found most gentle on your ass?", thereby demonstrating clear support.

                                  I suppose if one chose a papyrus document it could be a little hard on the rectum... :-D

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                                    I did. You just missed it.

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                                    led mike
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                                    No, I may have missed your bullshit, intentionally, but you never answered my question, which isn't even politically oriented so why you are avoiding it I have no idea.

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                                      Alvaro Mendez wrote:

                                      Finding humor in the mockery does not necessarily equate to supporting it.

                                      Not only did you find it humorous, but you expressed your satisfaction with his statement and extended it by asking "which holy book have you found most gentle on your ass?", thereby demonstrating clear support.

                                      Alvaro Mendez wrote:

                                      You were also amused by his Koran mockery. Admit it.

                                      No. I found it to be devoid of humor. I also believe that fruitless mockery of religion such as his (regardless of the religion) should be condemned. The point he proved was that the one person to voice support over religious mockery was you...an atheist.

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                                      Red Stateler wrote:

                                      No. I found it to be devoid of humor. I also believe that fruitless mockery of religion such as his (regardless of the religion) should be condemned. The point he proved was that the one person to voice support over religious mockery was you...an atheist.

                                      He didn't mock anything. Mocking is unflattering imitation. He simply showed his disrespect for a religious book with his toilet humor. I found it funny. You didn't (or so you claim). I wanted to keep laughing so I invited him to extend the joke. You got offended and decided to try to offend me in return. I gave you a silly response, and that was enough for you to delightfully declare that I had become offended. Then, being the compassionate conservative that you are, you offered an apology for presumably doing what you now claim should be condemned... May God forgive you. :rolleyes:


                                      A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything. - Friedrich Nietzsche

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                                        fat_boy wrote:

                                        You stil think this is blasphemy in light of that video showing people being killed in the name of god?

                                        From the Muslim perspective it is. Of course I'm blasphemous from their perspective too, but my blasphomy generally has a point.

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                                        Red Stateler wrote:

                                        but my blasphomy generally has a point.

                                        I like it! Thanks.

                                        "When your argument falls apart...resort to name-calling."
                                        Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                                        Whereas "liberal" is just a moron.
                                        Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                                        typical left-wing pseudo-intellectual crackpot
                                        Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                                        Actually you applied an incorrect and personal interpretation of "freedom"
                                        Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                                        That's why Muslims need to be absolutely destroyed.
                                        Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                                        but my blasphomy generally has a point.
                                        Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                                        led mike

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                                          Smoking is bad for you. :)

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