... so I used an old bible I had been using for cigarette paper.
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Actually I had been waiting for some instance on this forum to proove that non-believers are not less extreemist than believers/religious followers. In the presence of guys like Ed,Bassam and Nish[sometimes he does go insane but not much] it was not easy to prove since these guys tried their best to be neautral. I thankyou that you proved my point today. Surely aethits are not saints and they do follow a religion;to offend religion because they don't follow it. I also discovered it why you are a disbeliever. Offcourse everything got stuck in your ass and didn't get a way to come in your mind, hence you're unable to comprehend religion(s) or anyother thing. If verbal masturbation can help you to getrid of sperms of ignorance then we must all support you. Carry on as It doesn't hurt anyone.
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
Actually I had been waiting for some instance on this forum to proove that non-believers are not less extreemist than believers/religious followers. In the presence of guys like Ed,Bassam and Nish[sometimes he does go insane but not much] it was not easy to prove since these guys tried their best to be neautral.
They probably became disenchanted about religion when they found out Santa Klaus wasn't real or even Christian :laugh: Their are however neutral people who are say... spiritual and just find it hard to believe in religion(s) that has been tainted by the hands of men. The best religion is one that you keep to yourself...
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
Actually I had been waiting for some instance on this forum to proove that non-believers are not less extreemist
Bullshit. We don't kill those who blaspheme, or riot and burn property over words or cartoons. Only Muslims are that intemperate and violent. Must be a weak faith that is so easily threatened.
Rob Graham wrote:
Only Muslims are that intemperate and violent
That is untrue. Violence from ultra-orthodox Jews may halt gay march in Jerusalem[^] Two homemade bombs found on the roof of a movie theater where ``The Last Temptation of Christ`` was playing [^] Hard-line Hindus, bent on stopping love-struck couples from celebrating Valentine's Day, went on a rampage...in many parts of the country, invading gift shops, burning cards and disrupting festivities[^]
Where do you expect us to go when the bombs fall?
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Name a single example with the past 100 years.
There have been riots resulting in many deaths in Africa and Asia in recent years (this side of the millenium) carried out by groups calling themselves Christians. I can't recall the names of the countries though to gather some links, but hopefully someone here will be able to help? Or how about the various genocides that have happened over the past 100 years? Don't forget, 96% of Rwandians were following the various flavours of Christianity before the 1994 genocide. More than half of them were devout Catholics. The Muslim population actually increased from 4% to 14% after the murdering had slowed because it was the Muslims in those communities who were giving shelter to the people being exterminated. And let's not forget all the Catholic vs. Protestant riots and the violence and deaths that resulted all throughout the last 50 years in Northern Island - they all called themselves Christians. (And those aren't including IRA actions.) Most of those have been over petty things like land or perceived provocation. If you really compiled the evidence that's out there, you could probably find a major example from every one of those past one hundred years.
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Name a single example with the past 100 years.
I assume you mean examples of Christians killing non-belivers? (or do you mean Atheists killing believers?) In either case, the post before me mentions the Christian ones (at least some of them) ... and we can even go back as far as the birth of Christianity to see such actions. As for atheism, there is the mass genocides that occured in the USSR under Lenin and Stalin (much of which was largely due to religion), along with the same in China. It is nothing new to kill someone who doesn't think they way you do -- and it is quite common even in the most passive religions (and yes, atheism is a religion).
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But I thought atheism wasn't a religion... Besides, I don't mock atheism in the way that fat_boy mocked Islam (even though mockery of other religions is a religious practice for atheists). I criticise it and say specifically why it's flawed and worthy of criticism.
So I guess you are not going to answer my question. Shocking... no really it is
"When your argument falls apart...resort to name-calling."
Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the SoapboxWhereas "liberal" is just a moron.
Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapboxtypical left-wing pseudo-intellectual crackpot
Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the SoapboxActually you applied an incorrect and personal interpretation of "freedom"
Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the SoapboxThat's why Muslims need to be absolutely destroyed.
Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapboxled mike
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So I guess you are not going to answer my question. Shocking... no really it is
"When your argument falls apart...resort to name-calling."
Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the SoapboxWhereas "liberal" is just a moron.
Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapboxtypical left-wing pseudo-intellectual crackpot
Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the SoapboxActually you applied an incorrect and personal interpretation of "freedom"
Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the SoapboxThat's why Muslims need to be absolutely destroyed.
Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapboxled mike
I did. You just missed it.
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Alvaro Mendez wrote:
Finding humor in the mockery does not necessarily equate to supporting it.
Not only did you find it humorous, but you expressed your satisfaction with his statement and extended it by asking "which holy book have you found most gentle on your ass?", thereby demonstrating clear support.
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
You were also amused by his Koran mockery. Admit it.
No. I found it to be devoid of humor. I also believe that fruitless mockery of religion such as his (regardless of the religion) should be condemned. The point he proved was that the one person to voice support over religious mockery was you...an atheist.
Red Stateler wrote:
Alvaro Mendez wrote: Finding humor in the mockery does not necessarily equate to supporting it. Not only did you find it humorous, but you expressed your satisfaction with his statement and extended it by asking "which holy book have you found most gentle on your ass?", thereby demonstrating clear support.
I suppose if one chose a papyrus document it could be a little hard on the rectum... :-D
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I did. You just missed it.
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Alvaro Mendez wrote:
Finding humor in the mockery does not necessarily equate to supporting it.
Not only did you find it humorous, but you expressed your satisfaction with his statement and extended it by asking "which holy book have you found most gentle on your ass?", thereby demonstrating clear support.
Alvaro Mendez wrote:
You were also amused by his Koran mockery. Admit it.
No. I found it to be devoid of humor. I also believe that fruitless mockery of religion such as his (regardless of the religion) should be condemned. The point he proved was that the one person to voice support over religious mockery was you...an atheist.
Red Stateler wrote:
No. I found it to be devoid of humor. I also believe that fruitless mockery of religion such as his (regardless of the religion) should be condemned. The point he proved was that the one person to voice support over religious mockery was you...an atheist.
He didn't mock anything. Mocking is unflattering imitation. He simply showed his disrespect for a religious book with his toilet humor. I found it funny. You didn't (or so you claim). I wanted to keep laughing so I invited him to extend the joke. You got offended and decided to try to offend me in return. I gave you a silly response, and that was enough for you to delightfully declare that I had become offended. Then, being the compassionate conservative that you are, you offered an apology for presumably doing what you now claim should be condemned... May God forgive you. :rolleyes:
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fat_boy wrote:
You stil think this is blasphemy in light of that video showing people being killed in the name of god?
From the Muslim perspective it is. Of course I'm blasphemous from their perspective too, but my blasphomy generally has a point.
Red Stateler wrote:
but my blasphomy generally has a point.
I like it! Thanks.
"When your argument falls apart...resort to name-calling."
Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the SoapboxWhereas "liberal" is just a moron.
Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapboxtypical left-wing pseudo-intellectual crackpot
Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the SoapboxActually you applied an incorrect and personal interpretation of "freedom"
Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the SoapboxThat's why Muslims need to be absolutely destroyed.
Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapboxbut my blasphomy generally has a point.
Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapboxled mike
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Smoking is bad for you. :)
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Thank you for proving my point. You are a model of Islamic tolerance.
I don't need any point to prove your haterd against Islam. Keep burning! preaching starts from home. Apply such tolerence example on your family members then you would sound better to preach others.
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So you're saying that a boycott is as "extreme" as suicide bombing?
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
Actually I had been waiting for some instance on this forum to proove that non-believers are not less extreemist than believers/religious followers
At least, when we kill, we do not do it in the name of some fictious character.
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MP(2) wrote: At least, when we kill, we do not do it in the name of some fictious character. Well, so who is fictious? One whose life and everything is more documented, unchanged and preserved or one whose teachings, life and everything is being changed to suit one's smalla nd big greeds?????
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fat_boy wrote:
so I used an old bible I had been using for cigarette paper.
Well, it is OK but just be carefull: smoking is dangerous for health!!! :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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fat_boy wrote:
Watch it Adnan, in the forums present state of mind you might get 5 votes.
Don't get me wrong. Adnan never deserves 5 votes. But you're taking the "Piss Christ" approach of criticism which offers nothing of real value...just a statement. Of course, that's probably your intent.
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I also learnt about your ex-Religion. I assume you were a Bible follower. I could say that because you used the term 'toilet paper' for Koran and 'cigarette paper' for Bible. At one side you want to prove yourself a person who rejects all religion and on other hand you still have a soft corner for christianity/judaism and some day pope stan shannon could make you to accept bible again. I thankyou once again to give a proof that all of your anti-Religion thought is based on Islam only.
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
you used the term 'toilet paper' for Koran and 'cigarette paper' for Bible
No i didnt. I wrote that I was reading the Koran and ran out of toilet paper. So i went a got a bible that I had used for cigarette paper and used that to wipe my arse. I have just proved that you see what you want to see, not what I wrote.
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
I assume you were a Bible follower
By the way, I have never been a bible follower, i am not christained, baptised, or anything. I am a beer drinking pagan, raised by beer drinking pagans, living in a beer drinking pagan society.
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