Windows Vista Notepad
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No, not the name of a new Windows Vista edition, but a comment about the Notepad application on Vista: Microsoft have finally updated Notepad so double clicking to select is aware of non-whitespace word breaks. It makes editing config files, xml, etc, 100 times easier. Characters like "'=-,. etc now break selections by default. It is just one more of those little changes in Windows - like file copying - that makes it a more pleasant tool to work with. All the more so when you don't even notice it was changed until you switch back to a Windows XP machine and find you can't do it. I've been using Vista for over a week now and since the somewhat trying installation fiasco my impression has been quite a positive one. I even like the new control panel now I've discovered how great the search feature is. I had turned UAC off while I set up the machine, but turned it over the weekend and so far haven't found it too intrusive. Time will tell just how useful it really is. For those of you that are evaluating the final build of Vista, what other changes (big or little) do you find make your day easier? Or harder?
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No, not the name of a new Windows Vista edition, but a comment about the Notepad application on Vista: Microsoft have finally updated Notepad so double clicking to select is aware of non-whitespace word breaks. It makes editing config files, xml, etc, 100 times easier. Characters like "'=-,. etc now break selections by default. It is just one more of those little changes in Windows - like file copying - that makes it a more pleasant tool to work with. All the more so when you don't even notice it was changed until you switch back to a Windows XP machine and find you can't do it. I've been using Vista for over a week now and since the somewhat trying installation fiasco my impression has been quite a positive one. I even like the new control panel now I've discovered how great the search feature is. I had turned UAC off while I set up the machine, but turned it over the weekend and so far haven't found it too intrusive. Time will tell just how useful it really is. For those of you that are evaluating the final build of Vista, what other changes (big or little) do you find make your day easier? Or harder?
Ðavid Wulff What kind of music to programmers listen to?
Join the Code Project Last.fm group | dwulff
If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby.(This is not a "Mac OS X had that years ago" post at all.)
David Wulff wrote:
I even like the new control panel now I've discovered how great the search feature is.
I was so glad to see that in Vista since it has become indespensible to me from having used it in Mac OS X. All interfaces that list options should have that top-right filter/search feature. Bloody marvelous. As for harder I am finding the new Explorer to be a bit finicky. Especially trying to just type stuff into the address bar. Microsoft should copy the column feature from Mac OS X Finder. That works wonderfully well.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.
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No, not the name of a new Windows Vista edition, but a comment about the Notepad application on Vista: Microsoft have finally updated Notepad so double clicking to select is aware of non-whitespace word breaks. It makes editing config files, xml, etc, 100 times easier. Characters like "'=-,. etc now break selections by default. It is just one more of those little changes in Windows - like file copying - that makes it a more pleasant tool to work with. All the more so when you don't even notice it was changed until you switch back to a Windows XP machine and find you can't do it. I've been using Vista for over a week now and since the somewhat trying installation fiasco my impression has been quite a positive one. I even like the new control panel now I've discovered how great the search feature is. I had turned UAC off while I set up the machine, but turned it over the weekend and so far haven't found it too intrusive. Time will tell just how useful it really is. For those of you that are evaluating the final build of Vista, what other changes (big or little) do you find make your day easier? Or harder?
Ðavid Wulff What kind of music to programmers listen to?
Join the Code Project Last.fm group | dwulff
If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby.Haven't started evaluating it yet, but I sent them an email (well several) a while back on the Add/Remove programs. I find it better if that thing was displayed in trees under company name first, then application, and finally updates. Also, it would be nice if all the Windows HotFixes were in a separate tab since there are a million of them on any given machine. :) My other "request" was for them to quit affixing Microsoft in front of every application in there Program Files folder and give the user a way to install it under Company name or Group (i.e., development, graphics, office). Yes I know the installer can place it anywhere we want, but if Microsoft doesn't do it with their's first, then no-one will follow. I currently do it manually and have a Microsoft folder with the following under it: :rolleyes: IIS Resources Log Parser 2.2 MSXML 4.0 Microsoft .NET Framework SDK v1.1 Microsoft .NET Framework SDK v2.0 Microsoft ASP.NET Atlas Microsoft ASP.NET Web Matrix Microsoft Application Security Microsoft Calculator Plus Microsoft Developer Network Microsoft FxCop 1.35 Microsoft Office Microsoft Office Small Business Tools Microsoft Office Tools Microsoft Platform SDK for Windows Server 2003 SP1 Microsoft Platform SDK for Windows XP SP2 Microsoft Private Folder 1.0 Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Microsoft Visual C++ 6.0 Microsoft Visual SourceSafe Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 Microsoft Visual Studio Content Instller Power Toys Microsoft XML Notepad Microsoft XSD Inference Tool 1.0 Power Toys for Visual Studio PowerToys for Visual Studio 8 Powertoys for Windows XP Windows PowerShell 1.0 XML Notepad 2006
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No, not the name of a new Windows Vista edition, but a comment about the Notepad application on Vista: Microsoft have finally updated Notepad so double clicking to select is aware of non-whitespace word breaks. It makes editing config files, xml, etc, 100 times easier. Characters like "'=-,. etc now break selections by default. It is just one more of those little changes in Windows - like file copying - that makes it a more pleasant tool to work with. All the more so when you don't even notice it was changed until you switch back to a Windows XP machine and find you can't do it. I've been using Vista for over a week now and since the somewhat trying installation fiasco my impression has been quite a positive one. I even like the new control panel now I've discovered how great the search feature is. I had turned UAC off while I set up the machine, but turned it over the weekend and so far haven't found it too intrusive. Time will tell just how useful it really is. For those of you that are evaluating the final build of Vista, what other changes (big or little) do you find make your day easier? Or harder?
Ðavid Wulff What kind of music to programmers listen to?
Join the Code Project Last.fm group | dwulff
If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby.This is totally an "OS/2 had that years ago" post... ;P
David Wulff wrote:
Microsoft have finally updated Notepad so double clicking to select is aware of non-whitespace word breaks.
Wow. That's entirely worth tracking down printer and scanner drivers. :rolleyes: I like the sound system changes. It actually ships with drivers for my old Creative Extigy box, and sounds great without any tweaking. If you've never had to install Creative drivers, you cannot understand how great this is. And the simplified volume controls are great. If my printer worked, i would switch today. But yeah, OS/2 still shipped with a better text editor. Twelve years ago. Golf clap for MS, everybody...
---- I just want you to be happy; That's my only little wish...
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(This is not a "Mac OS X had that years ago" post at all.)
David Wulff wrote:
I even like the new control panel now I've discovered how great the search feature is.
I was so glad to see that in Vista since it has become indespensible to me from having used it in Mac OS X. All interfaces that list options should have that top-right filter/search feature. Bloody marvelous. As for harder I am finding the new Explorer to be a bit finicky. Especially trying to just type stuff into the address bar. Microsoft should copy the column feature from Mac OS X Finder. That works wonderfully well.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.
Paul Watson wrote:
Microsoft should copy the column feature from Mac OS X Finder. That works wonderfully well.
I could swear that column feature was from NextStep. Sad to say, but if MS hasn't copied it yet, i doubt they're gonna... (for those who haven't seen it, it's nothing like the List view in Explorer. For starters, it's useful.)
---- I just want you to be happy; That's my only little wish...
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This is totally an "OS/2 had that years ago" post... ;P
David Wulff wrote:
Microsoft have finally updated Notepad so double clicking to select is aware of non-whitespace word breaks.
Wow. That's entirely worth tracking down printer and scanner drivers. :rolleyes: I like the sound system changes. It actually ships with drivers for my old Creative Extigy box, and sounds great without any tweaking. If you've never had to install Creative drivers, you cannot understand how great this is. And the simplified volume controls are great. If my printer worked, i would switch today. But yeah, OS/2 still shipped with a better text editor. Twelve years ago. Golf clap for MS, everybody...
---- I just want you to be happy; That's my only little wish...
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No, not the name of a new Windows Vista edition, but a comment about the Notepad application on Vista: Microsoft have finally updated Notepad so double clicking to select is aware of non-whitespace word breaks. It makes editing config files, xml, etc, 100 times easier. Characters like "'=-,. etc now break selections by default. It is just one more of those little changes in Windows - like file copying - that makes it a more pleasant tool to work with. All the more so when you don't even notice it was changed until you switch back to a Windows XP machine and find you can't do it. I've been using Vista for over a week now and since the somewhat trying installation fiasco my impression has been quite a positive one. I even like the new control panel now I've discovered how great the search feature is. I had turned UAC off while I set up the machine, but turned it over the weekend and so far haven't found it too intrusive. Time will tell just how useful it really is. For those of you that are evaluating the final build of Vista, what other changes (big or little) do you find make your day easier? Or harder?
Ðavid Wulff What kind of music to programmers listen to?
Join the Code Project Last.fm group | dwulff
If atheism is a religion, then not collecting stamps is a hobby. -
Paul Watson wrote:
Microsoft should copy the column feature from Mac OS X Finder. That works wonderfully well.
I could swear that column feature was from NextStep. Sad to say, but if MS hasn't copied it yet, i doubt they're gonna... (for those who haven't seen it, it's nothing like the List view in Explorer. For starters, it's useful.)
---- I just want you to be happy; That's my only little wish...
Shog9 wrote:
I could swear that column feature was from NextStep
Possibly, seeing as a Mac OS was made from Next. They aren't afraid to copy.
Shog9 wrote:
(for those who haven't seen it, it's nothing like the List view in Explorer. For starters, it's useful.)
:laugh: Yeah. Just what is the list option for? I used thumbnail, icons and detailed plenty but never list.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.
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I hope not. Text editors don't need em.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.
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Shog9 wrote:
I could swear that column feature was from NextStep
Possibly, seeing as a Mac OS was made from Next. They aren't afraid to copy.
Shog9 wrote:
(for those who haven't seen it, it's nothing like the List view in Explorer. For starters, it's useful.)
:laugh: Yeah. Just what is the list option for? I used thumbnail, icons and detailed plenty but never list.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.
Paul Watson wrote:
Just what is the list option for?
Near as i can tell, cramming lots and lots of files into the small browser of the standard Open dialog. Of course, that probably worked a lot better when most filenames were 8.3. I mostly just use Details. And curse at Windows for being so slow across the WAN.
---- I just want you to be happy; That's my only little wish...
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This is totally an "OS/2 had that years ago" post... ;P
David Wulff wrote:
Microsoft have finally updated Notepad so double clicking to select is aware of non-whitespace word breaks.
Wow. That's entirely worth tracking down printer and scanner drivers. :rolleyes: I like the sound system changes. It actually ships with drivers for my old Creative Extigy box, and sounds great without any tweaking. If you've never had to install Creative drivers, you cannot understand how great this is. And the simplified volume controls are great. If my printer worked, i would switch today. But yeah, OS/2 still shipped with a better text editor. Twelve years ago. Golf clap for MS, everybody...
---- I just want you to be happy; That's my only little wish...
Shog9 wrote:
But yeah, OS/2 still shipped with a better text editor.
And you know the difference between Elvis and OS/2...?
Kevin
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Shog9 wrote:
But yeah, OS/2 still shipped with a better text editor.
And you know the difference between Elvis and OS/2...?
Kevin
Kevin McFarlane wrote:
And you know the difference between Elvis and OS/2...?
Well, let's see...
- Both of them were born and died before Vista ever shipped, so that's not it.
- Both of them suffered from poor management, so that's not it.
- Ah, i've got it! People still remember Elvis... ;)
---- I just want you to be happy; That's my only little wish...
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Kevin McFarlane wrote:
And you know the difference between Elvis and OS/2...?
Well, let's see...
- Both of them were born and died before Vista ever shipped, so that's not it.
- Both of them suffered from poor management, so that's not it.
- Ah, i've got it! People still remember Elvis... ;)
---- I just want you to be happy; That's my only little wish...
Yes or, alternatively: "OS/2 is really dead." :)
Kevin
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Shog9 wrote:
I could swear that column feature was from NextStep
Possibly, seeing as a Mac OS was made from Next. They aren't afraid to copy.
Shog9 wrote:
(for those who haven't seen it, it's nothing like the List view in Explorer. For starters, it's useful.)
:laugh: Yeah. Just what is the list option for? I used thumbnail, icons and detailed plenty but never list.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.
List view is useful for large directories of files - it fits the absolute maximum number on screen at once. I have used it as my default view for the last 7 or 8 years now. But then, you already knew I would be saying that. :)
Ðavid Wulff What kind of music to programmers listen to?
Join the Code Project Last.fm group | dwulff
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This is totally an "OS/2 had that years ago" post... ;P
David Wulff wrote:
Microsoft have finally updated Notepad so double clicking to select is aware of non-whitespace word breaks.
Wow. That's entirely worth tracking down printer and scanner drivers. :rolleyes: I like the sound system changes. It actually ships with drivers for my old Creative Extigy box, and sounds great without any tweaking. If you've never had to install Creative drivers, you cannot understand how great this is. And the simplified volume controls are great. If my printer worked, i would switch today. But yeah, OS/2 still shipped with a better text editor. Twelve years ago. Golf clap for MS, everybody...
---- I just want you to be happy; That's my only little wish...
But did OS/2 have Purble Palace[^]? (If you buy the Ultimate edition you get an extra game type too.)
Ðavid Wulff What kind of music to programmers listen to?
Join the Code Project Last.fm group | dwulff
Sleep deprivation does not cause physical harm. Humans can only survive about a week without sleep before flat out dying. - Espeir Logic Prism. -
Nope.
Ðavid Wulff What kind of music to programmers listen to?
Join the Code Project Last.fm group | dwulff
Sleep deprivation does not cause physical harm. Humans can only survive about a week without sleep before flat out dying. - Espeir Logic Prism. -
List view is useful for large directories of files - it fits the absolute maximum number on screen at once. I have used it as my default view for the last 7 or 8 years now. But then, you already knew I would be saying that. :)
Ðavid Wulff What kind of music to programmers listen to?
Join the Code Project Last.fm group | dwulff
Sleep deprivation does not cause physical harm. Humans can only survive about a week without sleep before flat out dying. - Espeir Logic Prism.How is it useful though to list all those files without any info except their name and an icon?
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.
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How is it useful though to list all those files without any info except their name and an icon?
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.
Why do you go in to a directory? You go in to find a file or group of files. The more you can see at once, the less time it will take to find the one/s you want. Files are identified by their name, what use is other information 99% of the time? I was not aware that the list view was at all unpopular, especially amojng devs. All of the devs I work with use list view 100% the time like myself. The only exception is when I actually need to see a modified date and sorting alone isn't enough, in which case I'll swap to detailed view temporarily. It is also significantly faster to use the list and/or detailed view than using the icon or tile views, particularly when you are navigating directories containing many hundreds of file or over a network.
Ðavid Wulff What kind of music to programmers listen to?
Join the Code Project Last.fm group | dwulff
Sleep deprivation does not cause physical harm. Humans can only survive about a week without sleep before flat out dying. - Espeir Logic Prism. -
But did OS/2 have Purble Palace[^]? (If you buy the Ultimate edition you get an extra game type too.)
Ðavid Wulff What kind of music to programmers listen to?
Join the Code Project Last.fm group | dwulff
Sleep deprivation does not cause physical harm. Humans can only survive about a week without sleep before flat out dying. - Espeir Logic Prism. -
Why do you go in to a directory? You go in to find a file or group of files. The more you can see at once, the less time it will take to find the one/s you want. Files are identified by their name, what use is other information 99% of the time? I was not aware that the list view was at all unpopular, especially amojng devs. All of the devs I work with use list view 100% the time like myself. The only exception is when I actually need to see a modified date and sorting alone isn't enough, in which case I'll swap to detailed view temporarily. It is also significantly faster to use the list and/or detailed view than using the icon or tile views, particularly when you are navigating directories containing many hundreds of file or over a network.
Ðavid Wulff What kind of music to programmers listen to?
Join the Code Project Last.fm group | dwulff
Sleep deprivation does not cause physical harm. Humans can only survive about a week without sleep before flat out dying. - Espeir Logic Prism.I don't go into directories just for large groups of files. I'd say it is a 50/50 split between big groups and individual files. I find it faster to scan a single column list too, rather than side by side columns. Dates are important as I often know when I edited a file. It is easy to scan date lists for the right day or time block and then start reading filenames. Size is also important. I found my vista download in my downloads directory by going for size. I guess it is just different ways of finding things. Good thing they left the List view in then, for odd types like you ;) (never met a dev who liked List view, till you.)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Shog9 wrote:
I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.
