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    Christian Graus
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    OK, so I am drowning in raspberries and strawberries, and I want to make topping and cordial, for use in winter.  I've googled and all the recipes for cordial have vodka in them ( does the word mean something different in the US ? ) and all the 'syrup' recipes say it keeps for 6 weeks in the fridge.  I want it to keep on the shelf for a year.  Does anyone have any suggestions ?

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      OK, so I am drowning in raspberries and strawberries, and I want to make topping and cordial, for use in winter.  I've googled and all the recipes for cordial have vodka in them ( does the word mean something different in the US ? ) and all the 'syrup' recipes say it keeps for 6 weeks in the fridge.  I want it to keep on the shelf for a year.  Does anyone have any suggestions ?

      Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert

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      We don't use the term cordial here. For US readers, cordial is kind of like a pre-mixed Kool-Aid that is super concentrated and syrupy. Then you can make it by the glass or pitcher. Just add water.

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        We don't use the term cordial here. For US readers, cordial is kind of like a pre-mixed Kool-Aid that is super concentrated and syrupy. Then you can make it by the glass or pitcher. Just add water.

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        Christian Graus
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        leckey wrote:

        We don't use the term cordial here.

        Not at all ? Then why do the US recipe sites have recipes, but with grog in them ? I did notice that the shops didn't sell cordial, that I could see.  But, they sell 'lemonade', which is basically mixed up lemon cordial.  Weird.

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          leckey wrote:

          We don't use the term cordial here.

          Not at all ? Then why do the US recipe sites have recipes, but with grog in them ? I did notice that the shops didn't sell cordial, that I could see.  But, they sell 'lemonade', which is basically mixed up lemon cordial.  Weird.

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          Chris Losinger
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          in the US, a 'cordial' is a sweet, potent, (usually) after-dinner drink: a liqueur.

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            in the US, a 'cordial' is a sweet, potent, (usually) after-dinner drink: a liqueur.

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            Christian Graus
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            Ah, well, that makes sense.  b/c that's what the recipes I found were for :-)

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              OK, so I am drowning in raspberries and strawberries, and I want to make topping and cordial, for use in winter.  I've googled and all the recipes for cordial have vodka in them ( does the word mean something different in the US ? ) and all the 'syrup' recipes say it keeps for 6 weeks in the fridge.  I want it to keep on the shelf for a year.  Does anyone have any suggestions ?

              Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert

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              Christian Graus wrote:

              I've googled and all the recipes for cordial have vodka in them ( does the word mean something different in the US ? )

              Cordial means booze in the US, yes. It's not a common term, either - usually it'd be called "liqueur"; i think the only places i've heard "corial" used were in reference to homemade stuff.

              Christian Graus wrote:

              I want it to keep on the shelf for a year.

              Well, if you don't want to put enough alcohol in it to prevent any bacteria growth, i'd suggest freezing or pressure canning.

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                OK, so I am drowning in raspberries and strawberries, and I want to make topping and cordial, for use in winter.  I've googled and all the recipes for cordial have vodka in them ( does the word mean something different in the US ? ) and all the 'syrup' recipes say it keeps for 6 weeks in the fridge.  I want it to keep on the shelf for a year.  Does anyone have any suggestions ?

                Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert

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                Chris Losinger
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                Christian Graus wrote:

                I want it to keep on the shelf for a year.

                you could probably freeze the stuff indefinitely. if i was searching for a recipe for fruit topping, i'd start with 'coulis'.

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                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  I've googled and all the recipes for cordial have vodka in them ( does the word mean something different in the US ? )

                  Cordial means booze in the US, yes. It's not a common term, either - usually it'd be called "liqueur"; i think the only places i've heard "corial" used were in reference to homemade stuff.

                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  I want it to keep on the shelf for a year.

                  Well, if you don't want to put enough alcohol in it to prevent any bacteria growth, i'd suggest freezing or pressure canning.

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                  Christian Graus
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                  But, I can buy bottles of cordial in the supermarket, and it keeps forever.  We make jam, and it keeps for over a year.  Maybe I can figure out what goes in the jam, and make one without seeds ( and make the cordial as I need it from there ).

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                    OK, so I am drowning in raspberries and strawberries, and I want to make topping and cordial, for use in winter.  I've googled and all the recipes for cordial have vodka in them ( does the word mean something different in the US ? ) and all the 'syrup' recipes say it keeps for 6 weeks in the fridge.  I want it to keep on the shelf for a year.  Does anyone have any suggestions ?

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                    El Corazon
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                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    Does anyone have any suggestions

                    canning? preserves?

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                      in the US, a 'cordial' is a sweet, potent, (usually) after-dinner drink: a liqueur.

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                      yeah I think sherry is refered to as a cordial. Forgot about using it like that.

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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        I want it to keep on the shelf for a year.

                        you could probably freeze the stuff indefinitely. if i was searching for a recipe for fruit topping, i'd start with 'coulis'.

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                        Fruit does not usually keep more than 6 months. We bought one of those food vaccuum things so stuff keeps longer in the freezer. I haven't seen any freezer burn since.

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                          But, I can buy bottles of cordial in the supermarket, and it keeps forever.  We make jam, and it keeps for over a year.  Maybe I can figure out what goes in the jam, and make one without seeds ( and make the cordial as I need it from there ).

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                          Christian Graus wrote:

                          We make jam, and it keeps for over a year.

                          Do you can it though? It's one thing if it's hermetically sealed, quite another if it's sitting in your fridge, being opened every day.

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                            Fruit does not usually keep more than 6 months. We bought one of those food vaccuum things so stuff keeps longer in the freezer. I haven't seen any freezer burn since.

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                            leckey wrote:

                            We bought one of those food vaccuum things so stuff keeps longer in the freezer. I haven't seen any freezer burn since.

                            If you take a freezer bag (Ziplock-style, thick plastic), fill it with food, and submerge it in water before sealing it, it'll usually push most of the air out, and will keep fairly well. I do this frequently for vegetables and meat, as well as apples.

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                              OK, so I am drowning in raspberries and strawberries, and I want to make topping and cordial, for use in winter.  I've googled and all the recipes for cordial have vodka in them ( does the word mean something different in the US ? ) and all the 'syrup' recipes say it keeps for 6 weeks in the fridge.  I want it to keep on the shelf for a year.  Does anyone have any suggestions ?

                              Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert

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                              My grand-ma makes syrup, only I can't reach her right now. Her syrup stays good for a year, but be prepared: She adds quite a large amount of sugar, that's what keeps the syrup good. Also she uses some kind of technique to vacuum the bottles. Once you open the bottle the clock starts ticking and it will indeed only stay good for a couple of weeks. Hope I did help you in the right direction.. Don't you have a grand-ma that makes syrup and jam?

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                                OK, so I am drowning in raspberries and strawberries, and I want to make topping and cordial, for use in winter.  I've googled and all the recipes for cordial have vodka in them ( does the word mean something different in the US ? ) and all the 'syrup' recipes say it keeps for 6 weeks in the fridge.  I want it to keep on the shelf for a year.  Does anyone have any suggestions ?

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                                I think if you aren't preserving something naturally acidic eg, tomatoes, or adding vinegar (like to make pickle) then you have to vacuum seal it or something, you can't just put it in a jar. But if you made jam already, then you already know how to safely preserve non-acidic things, so I guess you have to do it a similar way. I only vaguely remember what the preserving book was talking about. Cordial can be made out of fruits or whatever without being that crap stuff you get from supermarkets and mix up with water to create hyper-active children. Because you can buy elder-berry cordial and so on, which has no alcohol, but is similar in that you mix it with water. I imagine it still has a fair amount of sugar, and I don't know how you'd concentrate the flavour in that way. Except, since you are asking about cordials you presumably actually already know what it is... Presuming you don't have a massive freezer (cos then I'd mostly just freeze them and eat them later - well, the raspberries at least) I can't actually think of anything useful though.

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                                  Ah, well, that makes sense.  b/c that's what the recipes I found were for :-)

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                                  cordials are also little candies - 'cherry cordials' are little hollow chocolates filled with a cherry in some sweet liquid. they're vile.

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                                    Christian Graus wrote:

                                    I want it to keep on the shelf for a year.

                                    you could probably freeze the stuff indefinitely. if i was searching for a recipe for fruit topping, i'd start with 'coulis'.

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                                    Christian Graus
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                                    Chris Losinger wrote:

                                    you could probably freeze the stuff indefinitely.

                                    I have BIG freezers, but that's precisely what I hoped to avoid, I'm wanting to find ways of storing them, outside the freezer.

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                                      Christian Graus wrote:

                                      Does anyone have any suggestions

                                      canning? preserves?

                                      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                      Christian Graus
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                                      Yeah, I guess I need to scour the op shops for a Fowlers kit.

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                                        cordials are also little candies - 'cherry cordials' are little hollow chocolates filled with a cherry in some sweet liquid. they're vile.

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                                        Christian Graus
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                                        Yeah, I saw those, and they are what I expected.  Chocolates full of cordial ( sweep syrup ).  Here, we put brandy in those.

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                                          My grand-ma makes syrup, only I can't reach her right now. Her syrup stays good for a year, but be prepared: She adds quite a large amount of sugar, that's what keeps the syrup good. Also she uses some kind of technique to vacuum the bottles. Once you open the bottle the clock starts ticking and it will indeed only stay good for a couple of weeks. Hope I did help you in the right direction.. Don't you have a grand-ma that makes syrup and jam?

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                                          IIRC you need at least 50% sugar to avoid other preservatives. (Might even be more)

                                          WillemM wrote:

                                          Also she uses some kind of technique to vacuum the bottles.

                                          for glasses with glass/metal screw-on cover, you use alcohol: a few drops on the inside of the lid, ignite it with a match, screw on quickly. Grandma di make the bottles hot and very full, and used rubber lids on them. I guess the idea is to have a lower air pressure inside, thus the outer air pressure pushing the rubber tihtly against the bottle.


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