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  • D David Wulff

    I know my sister took something with melatonin in it to try and help with jet lag, and she said it helped her to adjust more quickly than before. I have no proof if that was real or a placebo effect though. I've heard it's not ideal to increase it too much if you suffer from depression (either chronic or short-term like SAD). A friend of mine who is very reactive to the longer nights at this time of year avoids eating lots of rice because it makes him feel worse. Apparently rice contains melatonin. Again I really don't know if that is true, but he swears by it. Personally, I'd ask my doctor.


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    What, ask a doctor when you've got the lounge at your disposal ? That's crazy talk.

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      How many people here have used or use melatonin to treat your sleep problems? If so how effective is it? I have heard it will help get you to sleep and give you a higher quality sleep. It also has been known to induce extremely vivid dreams. I was thinking about combining it with 5-HTP to get a good sleep when I need. -- modified at 21:04 Tuesday 28th November, 2006

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      Nish Nishant
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      Never heard of it before :-)

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        What, ask a doctor when you've got the lounge at your disposal ? That's crazy talk.

        Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert

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        Christian Graus wrote:

        ask a doctor when you've got the lounge at your disposal ? That's crazy talk.

        :laugh:


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          How many people here have used or use melatonin to treat your sleep problems? If so how effective is it? I have heard it will help get you to sleep and give you a higher quality sleep. It also has been known to induce extremely vivid dreams. I was thinking about combining it with 5-HTP to get a good sleep when I need. -- modified at 21:04 Tuesday 28th November, 2006

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          You'd be much better off finding the reason you cant sleep and addressing it. Excersize more, find new ways to cope with the source of stress etc etc etc

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            How many people here have used or use melatonin to treat your sleep problems? If so how effective is it? I have heard it will help get you to sleep and give you a higher quality sleep. It also has been known to induce extremely vivid dreams. I was thinking about combining it with 5-HTP to get a good sleep when I need. -- modified at 21:04 Tuesday 28th November, 2006

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            Captain See SharpIf so how effective is it?

            Probably not nearly as effective as exercise. Be careful though, exercise has side effects; you may actually get into shape and feel better. At least the five zillion drugs on the market that address everything including not being able to pick your nose in public only have small side effects like liver issues, etc. :rolleyes:

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              Captain See SharpIf so how effective is it?

              Probably not nearly as effective as exercise. Be careful though, exercise has side effects; you may actually get into shape and feel better. At least the five zillion drugs on the market that address everything including not being able to pick your nose in public only have small side effects like liver issues, etc. :rolleyes:

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              Jeremy Falcon wrote:

              exercise has side effects; you may actually get into shape and feel better

              So true :-D


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                How many people here have used or use melatonin to treat your sleep problems? If so how effective is it? I have heard it will help get you to sleep and give you a higher quality sleep. It also has been known to induce extremely vivid dreams. I was thinking about combining it with 5-HTP to get a good sleep when I need. -- modified at 21:04 Tuesday 28th November, 2006

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                A friend of mine takes it with good results. Actually, he takes benadryl to help with falling asleep and melatonin to stay there. Some people do encounter side effects, the most common of which is nightmares. I tried it once, had a rather vivid experience of that sort, and decided that whiskey was better.

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                  A friend of mine takes it with good results. Actually, he takes benadryl to help with falling asleep and melatonin to stay there. Some people do encounter side effects, the most common of which is nightmares. I tried it once, had a rather vivid experience of that sort, and decided that whiskey was better.

                  Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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                  Christopher Duncan wrote:

                  the most common of which is nightmares

                  ROTFL - that's brilliant.  So, you can get to sleep faster, but you're less likely to stay there, or get rested ?

                  Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert

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                    How many people here have used or use melatonin to treat your sleep problems? If so how effective is it? I have heard it will help get you to sleep and give you a higher quality sleep. It also has been known to induce extremely vivid dreams. I was thinking about combining it with 5-HTP to get a good sleep when I need. -- modified at 21:04 Tuesday 28th November, 2006

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                    When winter came here I went out and bought the brightest compact flourescent lightbulbs I could afford and put them everywhere in the house, it's bright as day inside now and I find it makes a huge difference when you live in a bleak and dreary winter climate with no sunshine. I sleep better at night and feel awake in the morning. Last winter I felt pretty crappy pretty much until spring. I don't know about melatonin though, I know a guy who works on shifts and takes it and he says it helps with rotating shifts where he moves from one time period to another. Personally I avoid all medication unless it's absolutlely necessary. I don't even take an aspirin unless my headache is near migrane proportions. Alcohol though I consume quite regularly so I guess I don't avoid all medication. :)

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                      You'd be much better off finding the reason you cant sleep and addressing it. Excersize more, find new ways to cope with the source of stress etc etc etc

                      System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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                      I wanted to say that but I felt like it would probably be ignored or had already been tried. I personally think people take way too much medication without addressing problems that are the root of their need to take it, but it's like yelling "soylent green is people" no one's going to listen in this day and age.

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                        You'd be much better off finding the reason you cant sleep and addressing it. Excersize more, find new ways to cope with the source of stress etc etc etc

                        System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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                        Josh Gray wrote:

                        find new ways to cope with the source of stress

                        Think relaxing thoughts. every 51 seconds. ;P

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                        • J Jeremy Falcon

                          Captain See SharpIf so how effective is it?

                          Probably not nearly as effective as exercise. Be careful though, exercise has side effects; you may actually get into shape and feel better. At least the five zillion drugs on the market that address everything including not being able to pick your nose in public only have small side effects like liver issues, etc. :rolleyes:

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                          Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                          only have small side effects like liver issues, etc.

                          liver? ewwww.... doctors will just grow me a new one. ;)

                          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                            When winter came here I went out and bought the brightest compact flourescent lightbulbs I could afford and put them everywhere in the house, it's bright as day inside now and I find it makes a huge difference when you live in a bleak and dreary winter climate with no sunshine. I sleep better at night and feel awake in the morning. Last winter I felt pretty crappy pretty much until spring. I don't know about melatonin though, I know a guy who works on shifts and takes it and he says it helps with rotating shifts where he moves from one time period to another. Personally I avoid all medication unless it's absolutlely necessary. I don't even take an aspirin unless my headache is near migrane proportions. Alcohol though I consume quite regularly so I guess I don't avoid all medication. :)

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                            They recommend lots of flouro light exposure as and aid to getting over jetlag.

                            John Cardinal wrote:

                            Personally I avoid all medication unless it's absolutlely necessary. I don't even take an aspirin unless my headache is near migrane proportions

                            Yeah, I agree 200%.

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                              I wanted to say that but I felt like it would probably be ignored or had already been tried. I personally think people take way too much medication without addressing problems that are the root of their need to take it, but it's like yelling "soylent green is people" no one's going to listen in this day and age.

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                              John Cardinal wrote:

                              I wanted to say that but I felt like it would probably be ignored or had already been tried. I personally think people take way too much medication without addressing problems that are the root of their need to take it, but it's like yelling "soylent green is people" no one's going to listen in this day and age.

                              Exercise never seemed to help me much. Melatonin is a natural hormone produced by the penil gland in the center of your brain and it secretes th hormone at night and puts you to sleep. It is nothing like Xanax or Ambien.

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                                Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                the most common of which is nightmares

                                ROTFL - that's brilliant.  So, you can get to sleep faster, but you're less likely to stay there, or get rested ?

                                Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert

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                                Christian Graus wrote:

                                So, you can get to sleep faster, but you're less likely to stay there, or get rested ?

                                Kinda funny how much stuff people will endure just to avoid exercise.

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                                  A friend of mine takes it with good results. Actually, he takes benadryl to help with falling asleep and melatonin to stay there. Some people do encounter side effects, the most common of which is nightmares. I tried it once, had a rather vivid experience of that sort, and decided that whiskey was better.

                                  Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalStrategyConsulting.com

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                                  Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                  and decided that whiskey was better.

                                  Probably cheaper too. :-D

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                                    Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                    only have small side effects like liver issues, etc.

                                    liver? ewwww.... doctors will just grow me a new one. ;)

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                                    Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                                    doctors will just grow me a new one.

                                    Crazy to think that may be true in the not so distant future.

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                                      Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                      exercise has side effects; you may actually get into shape and feel better

                                      So true :-D


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                                      PaulC1972 wrote:

                                      So true

                                      Yeah, I pity those suffering souls who feel good every day. One can only imagine the horror. :rolleyes:

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                                        Captain See Sharp wrote:

                                        melatonin

                                        If that's a fancy word for whiskey, then yes. ;P

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                                        Shog9 wrote:

                                        whiskey

                                        Unfortunately I am considered to be not old enough to buy or drink it which makes it difficult for me to get.

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                                          When winter came here I went out and bought the brightest compact flourescent lightbulbs I could afford and put them everywhere in the house, it's bright as day inside now and I find it makes a huge difference when you live in a bleak and dreary winter climate with no sunshine. I sleep better at night and feel awake in the morning. Last winter I felt pretty crappy pretty much until spring. I don't know about melatonin though, I know a guy who works on shifts and takes it and he says it helps with rotating shifts where he moves from one time period to another. Personally I avoid all medication unless it's absolutlely necessary. I don't even take an aspirin unless my headache is near migrane proportions. Alcohol though I consume quite regularly so I guess I don't avoid all medication. :)

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                                          Jeremy Falcon
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                                          John Cardinal wrote:

                                          I don't even take an aspirin unless my headache is near migrane proportions.

                                          A man after my own heart!

                                          John Cardinal wrote:

                                          Alcohol though I consume quite regularly so I guess I don't avoid all medication.

                                          A man after my own heart! ;P

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