Hawking: Humans must colonize other planets
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you type much faster than me... I call foul!
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Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
you type much faster than me... I call foul!
Yeah, and I just noticed some typos in my post too. Oh well, we can't have everything. :laugh:
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Gary Kirkham wrote:
but once he's in space he wouldn't need one.
actually he would. He has almost no mobility, although he could float easily enough he would not even have the strength to push himself around. But a proper space designed harness should be able to be adapted to something similar to his voice synthesizer.
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OK...I know very little about him. I guess I was thinking in terms of paraplegia. I had another thought. Maybe we need a hospital in space that cares for long term bedridden patients. They wouldn't need to be turned to prevent bed sores; just a couple of tethers to keep them from wandering too far.
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I wonder how wheelchair accessible the Space Shuttle really is? :-D
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Be fair. The guys already like Davros.
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OK...I know very little about him. I guess I was thinking in terms of paraplegia. I had another thought. Maybe we need a hospital in space that cares for long term bedridden patients. They wouldn't need to be turned to prevent bed sores; just a couple of tethers to keep them from wandering too far.
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Gary Kirkham wrote:
I had another thought. Maybe we need a hospital in space that cares for long term bedridden patients.
Unfortunately the results of microgravity prolonged exposure could be worse than any other health problems: http://www.nasa.gov/audience/foreducators/k-4/features/F_Microgravity_Bad_Hair_Day.html[^]
The most serious concern is the loss of bone calcium that increases with the length of a mission and shows no sign of cessation. The calcium loss from bones subjected to extended microgravity takes place at 10 times the rate of an elderly person suffering from osteoporosis._________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Gary Kirkham wrote:
I had another thought. Maybe we need a hospital in space that cares for long term bedridden patients.
Unfortunately the results of microgravity prolonged exposure could be worse than any other health problems: http://www.nasa.gov/audience/foreducators/k-4/features/F_Microgravity_Bad_Hair_Day.html[^]
The most serious concern is the loss of bone calcium that increases with the length of a mission and shows no sign of cessation. The calcium loss from bones subjected to extended microgravity takes place at 10 times the rate of an elderly person suffering from osteoporosis._________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Well it depends if you want to come back down to earth or not. On the other hand, microgravity could help the healing of patients with hearts problems (less effort, less strain on the muscle).
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Well it depends if you want to come back down to earth or not. On the other hand, microgravity could help the healing of patients with hearts problems (less effort, less strain on the muscle).
Pierre Leclercq wrote:
Well it depends if you want to come back down to earth or not.
true, but given the rate of loss of calcium, no one really understands what that will do to the human body. The bones could become so brittle that you could break your own arm pushing off from the side of the space ship.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Pierre Leclercq wrote:
Well it depends if you want to come back down to earth or not.
true, but given the rate of loss of calcium, no one really understands what that will do to the human body. The bones could become so brittle that you could break your own arm pushing off from the side of the space ship.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Oops, that would be like that crystal bone disease. I think some cosmonauts have stayed in space for over a year. 6 years is much longer. Might have to build an artificial gravity ship (one of those with turning wheels).
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Oops, that would be like that crystal bone disease. I think some cosmonauts have stayed in space for over a year. 6 years is much longer. Might have to build an artificial gravity ship (one of those with turning wheels).
Over two years actually... guy looks pretty good for now. Astronauts who were on SkyLab for a long time did have muscle problems when they came back though. http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7852[^]
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Oops, that would be like that crystal bone disease. I think some cosmonauts have stayed in space for over a year. 6 years is much longer. Might have to build an artificial gravity ship (one of those with turning wheels).
Yes, but, as Professor Hawking pointed out, it would not seem like six years to the astronauts making the journey. This is because of the effects of special relativity. As velocity increases, the passage of time slows. This has been verified by experimentation. At near the speed of light time would pass so slowly that what we on earth would measure as six years the astronauts would only measure as a matter of months or weeks or maybe even days depending on how long it took to reach maximum velocity.
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Gary Kirkham wrote:
I had another thought. Maybe we need a hospital in space that cares for long term bedridden patients.
Unfortunately the results of microgravity prolonged exposure could be worse than any other health problems: http://www.nasa.gov/audience/foreducators/k-4/features/F_Microgravity_Bad_Hair_Day.html[^]
The most serious concern is the loss of bone calcium that increases with the length of a mission and shows no sign of cessation. The calcium loss from bones subjected to extended microgravity takes place at 10 times the rate of an elderly person suffering from osteoporosis._________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
Unfortunately the results of microgravity prolonged exposure could be worse than any other health problems: http://www.nasa.gov/audience/foreducators/k-4/features/F\_Microgravity\_Bad\_Hair\_Day.html\[^\] The most serious concern is the loss of bone calcium that increases with the length of a mission and shows no sign of cessation. The calcium loss from bones subjected to extended microgravity takes place at 10 times the rate of an elderly person suffering from osteoporosis.
If you are staying in space permenetly that wouldn't be an issue
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Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:
Unfortunately the results of microgravity prolonged exposure could be worse than any other health problems: http://www.nasa.gov/audience/foreducators/k-4/features/F\_Microgravity\_Bad\_Hair\_Day.html\[^\] The most serious concern is the loss of bone calcium that increases with the length of a mission and shows no sign of cessation. The calcium loss from bones subjected to extended microgravity takes place at 10 times the rate of an elderly person suffering from osteoporosis.
If you are staying in space permenetly that wouldn't be an issue
ProSlacker wrote:
If you are staying in space permenetly that wouldn't be an issue
Actually it is.... loss of calcium eventually results in a host of illnesses as well as loss of teeth and hair. Calcium loss would result in much shorter life-spans which is why they are researching just how much gravity the human body needs to maintain normal bodily functions (life). The cosmonaughts who stayed up for a year were already suffering a host of illnesses from microgravity. Bringing them down only made them physically weak from muscle loss, but they were a long time recovering, not just in bones but with a host of internal issues. Calcium absorbancy is just one of the issues, it is simply the worst. Even if you never intended to come down, permanent exile to microgravity would accelerate your demise.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Over two years actually... guy looks pretty good for now. Astronauts who were on SkyLab for a long time did have muscle problems when they came back though. http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7852[^]
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It's an "all your eggs in one basket" type scenerio. Yes the people colonizing other planets would have the same hatreds, same political issues, same tendancy toward violence that is part of our society at large. But if xx colony goes it won't take Earth, if Earth goes xx colony won't. The more colonies the greater chance of at least one surviving, is the theory.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Also, if we colonised a planet say orbiting Proxima Centauri (the nearest star to Sol), by the time we heard about a nuclear war back on Earth (assuming we would), they'd all have been dead for nearly 4 years. Communication can't travel faster than light any more than we can. Not even bad news can travel faster than light. ;P