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That's it, I'm ditching CVS!

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    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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    Subversion is really slick! Branching, merging, versioning, etc, just became a whole lot easier. I'm switching Real Soon NowTM. :cool: If you haven't checked out Subversion yet, do. Don't forget TortoiseSVN (A shell extension which puts its cousin TortoiseCVS into shame!).

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      Subversion is really slick! Branching, merging, versioning, etc, just became a whole lot easier. I'm switching Real Soon NowTM. :cool: If you haven't checked out Subversion yet, do. Don't forget TortoiseSVN (A shell extension which puts its cousin TortoiseCVS into shame!).

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      Christian Graus
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      VSTS is also pretty cool :-)

      Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert

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        VSTS is also pretty cool :-)

        Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert

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        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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        I have heard that there are a few job openings for VSTS evangelists.


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          Subversion is really slick! Branching, merging, versioning, etc, just became a whole lot easier. I'm switching Real Soon NowTM. :cool: If you haven't checked out Subversion yet, do. Don't forget TortoiseSVN (A shell extension which puts its cousin TortoiseCVS into shame!).

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          Lost User
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          About time, CVS is the worst system I've used. Elaine (progressive fluffy tigress)

          The tigress is here :-D

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            I have heard that there are a few job openings for VSTS evangelists.


            Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. -Brian Kernighan

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            Christian Graus
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            I'll bet.  If I'd paid for it, I'd be annoyed, mostly because parts of the setup are ludicrous ( to migrate VSS, you need to create and hand edit XML files ), but once it's running, it's pretty sweet.

            Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert

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              I'll bet.  If I'd paid for it, I'd be annoyed, mostly because parts of the setup are ludicrous ( to migrate VSS, you need to create and hand edit XML files ), but once it's running, it's pretty sweet.

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              Ray Cassick
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              I wish I could afford it.


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                Subversion is really slick! Branching, merging, versioning, etc, just became a whole lot easier. I'm switching Real Soon NowTM. :cool: If you haven't checked out Subversion yet, do. Don't forget TortoiseSVN (A shell extension which puts its cousin TortoiseCVS into shame!).

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                I've been using it for the last year or so and its great. Tortoise has some quirky bugs though

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                  I've been using it for the last year or so and its great. Tortoise has some quirky bugs though

                  System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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                  Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                  Josh Gray wrote:

                  Tortoise has some quirky bugs though

                  Hmm.. care to share? I've found one (not a show stopper, but still annoying): If you do a merge from one branch to another (trunk included), and you mismatch source/target (e.g. source = a file from branch, and target = a directory in trunk), it'll give you some nonsensical error saying "attempted to get checksum of a non file node". It ought to tell me "Hey moron, that's a mismatch!". :)

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                    Josh Gray wrote:

                    Tortoise has some quirky bugs though

                    Hmm.. care to share? I've found one (not a show stopper, but still annoying): If you do a merge from one branch to another (trunk included), and you mismatch source/target (e.g. source = a file from branch, and target = a directory in trunk), it'll give you some nonsensical error saying "attempted to get checksum of a non file node". It ought to tell me "Hey moron, that's a mismatch!". :)

                    -- Federal law prohibits changing the channel

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                    Just little things like the icons in Explorer not updating correctly, there is a feature that allows you can set default svn properties to be attached to a file when added to the repository. For example we always have svn:eol-style set to LF for cpp files and have checks on the server side so files cant be committed without this. Tortise should set this automatically but it only works about %50 of the time I always use Tortise to work with svn but some of the guys here like to use a combination of the command line tools and Tortise. There have been instances where versions of Tortise have not worked well specific versions of svn dispite the doco claiming that it should work. And of course there's the error you get sometimes that reads something like "Operation failed, please perform a clean-up command". Never worked out why this happens. We also have some commercially sensative stuff and access to this is restricted to the people that actually work on it. The rest of us cant see the change log for these projects and sometimes this makes merging very hard. This is mostly our fault though I think. On the whole its a great tool.

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                      About time, CVS is the worst system I've used. Elaine (progressive fluffy tigress)

                      The tigress is here :-D

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                      Paul M Watt
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                      I hate it too. I have worked at quite a few places that prefer it simply because it is free. I have found it adequate at archiving, but its feature set for identifying changes and such when someone on your team checks in a large number of files and breaks the build is seriously lacking.

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                        David Wulff
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                        FYI: The workgroup edition is included in all VS2005 TE MSDN subscriptions. If you don't have one then that's not much use, but it might help someone.


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                          Subversion is really slick! Branching, merging, versioning, etc, just became a whole lot easier. I'm switching Real Soon NowTM. :cool: If you haven't checked out Subversion yet, do. Don't forget TortoiseSVN (A shell extension which puts its cousin TortoiseCVS into shame!).

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                          Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                          Subversion is really slick!

                          Yup, that it is. :)

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                            Subversion is really slick! Branching, merging, versioning, etc, just became a whole lot easier. I'm switching Real Soon NowTM. :cool: If you haven't checked out Subversion yet, do. Don't forget TortoiseSVN (A shell extension which puts its cousin TortoiseCVS into shame!).

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                            Yeah, I'm working in SVN some moths now, because of CPians suggestions. Now I'm happy and my hair is most beautiful ;P, but my voice continues the same...


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                              VSTS is also pretty cool :-)

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                              Andy Brummer
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                              Yeah, but it's no subversion. I'm sure they will eventually catch up, but it's still a 1.0 Microsoft product.

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                                Subversion is really slick! Branching, merging, versioning, etc, just became a whole lot easier. I'm switching Real Soon NowTM. :cool: If you haven't checked out Subversion yet, do. Don't forget TortoiseSVN (A shell extension which puts its cousin TortoiseCVS into shame!).

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                                Andy Brummer
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                                Yeah, it's one of those products that just does it's one job really well without any extra crap to get in the way.

                                Using the GridView is like trying to explain to someone else how to move a third person's hands in order to tie your shoelaces for you. -Chris Maunder

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                                  Subversion is really slick! Branching, merging, versioning, etc, just became a whole lot easier. I'm switching Real Soon NowTM. :cool: If you haven't checked out Subversion yet, do. Don't forget TortoiseSVN (A shell extension which puts its cousin TortoiseCVS into shame!).

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                                  Marc Clifton
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                                  Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                  Subversion is really slick!

                                  Ah, phooey. I like CVS. I guess the next project I'll try Subversion. I just couldn't get my head wrapped around their suggested setup. Marc

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                                    Subversion is really slick! Branching, merging, versioning, etc, just became a whole lot easier. I'm switching Real Soon NowTM. :cool: If you haven't checked out Subversion yet, do. Don't forget TortoiseSVN (A shell extension which puts its cousin TortoiseCVS into shame!).

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                                    Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                    Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                    If you haven't checked out Subversion yet, do. Don't forget TortoiseSVN

                                    Yep, SVN is not bad, although not perfect either. As for Tortoise, I use it only very rarely, since I mostly develop on Linux these days. Actually, svn from command line is pretty good once you get used to it.


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                                      Subversion is really slick! Branching, merging, versioning, etc, just became a whole lot easier. I'm switching Real Soon NowTM. :cool: If you haven't checked out Subversion yet, do. Don't forget TortoiseSVN (A shell extension which puts its cousin TortoiseCVS into shame!).

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                                      James Brown
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                                      A warning to anyone installing tortoiseSvn on Vista - it keeps crashing. Plus it wipes out the themes on the explorer shell menu.


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                                        Just little things like the icons in Explorer not updating correctly, there is a feature that allows you can set default svn properties to be attached to a file when added to the repository. For example we always have svn:eol-style set to LF for cpp files and have checks on the server side so files cant be committed without this. Tortise should set this automatically but it only works about %50 of the time I always use Tortise to work with svn but some of the guys here like to use a combination of the command line tools and Tortise. There have been instances where versions of Tortise have not worked well specific versions of svn dispite the doco claiming that it should work. And of course there's the error you get sometimes that reads something like "Operation failed, please perform a clean-up command". Never worked out why this happens. We also have some commercially sensative stuff and access to this is restricted to the people that actually work on it. The rest of us cant see the change log for these projects and sometimes this makes merging very hard. This is mostly our fault though I think. On the whole its a great tool.

                                        System.IO.Path.IsPathRooted() does not behave as I would expect

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                                        m3ntat_
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                                        We are using Tortoise with CVS at work, 4 person team. I would like some VS 2005 integration if there is it, anyone suggest the best free add in? Also I look at SVN but apparently it's a b1tch to setup on a Windows box for server/client. Any quick dirty installers, tutorials that do the trick? Thanks

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                                          Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                          Subversion is really slick!

                                          Ah, phooey. I like CVS. I guess the next project I'll try Subversion. I just couldn't get my head wrapped around their suggested setup. Marc

                                          Thyme In The Country

                                          People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                                          There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                                          People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                                          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                          I do/did. Subversion is better. :)

                                          Marc Clifton wrote:

                                          I just couldn't get my head wrapped around their suggested setup.

                                          :~ Apache/http? They have a standalone server (svnserve) now, which can also be installed as a Windows service (since version 1.4).

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