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  • C Colin Angus Mackay

    This forum is for suggestions to the site admin about how to improve the site. There is a thing such as: Kids Programming Language[^ that might be suitable. However, I started programming at the age of 8 and I used a number of books by Osborne (who publish kids educational books). You might find some ideas in your local book shop or Library. However, an easily structured book like step-by-step C# might be good also because I suplimented my reading of the kids books (to get ideas of fun projects) with the drier adult books. There were lots of programming magazines when I was a kid also. Another route you might want to take is with robotics. You can get lots of hobbyt kits with easy to understand instructions that a kid could use. [EDIT] I'm not really sure why this got voted down - Anyone care to explain? The only explanation I can come up with is that this was on the "Suggestions" forum until someone moved it to a more appropriate place. [EDIT] -- modified at 11:09 Thursday 7th December, 2006


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    That is very help information Colin, I was heading to our local book store shortly any way. I will look for the Osborne book. Thank you. R/ Howard

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      Hello All, My 9-year-old has expressed an interest in computer programming. I am currently taking a college level course in C#, which probably would not be suitable for him. I would like to get some suggestion on where to get him started. Thank you, R/ Howard -- moved at 16:33 Wednesday 6th December, 2006

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      pnhnt wrote:

      My 9-year-old has expressed an interest in computer programming. I am currently taking a college level course in C#, which probably would not be suitable for him. I would like to get some suggestion on where to get him started.

      You might want to take a look at our Plain English development system, designed specifically with "the programmers of tomorrow" in mind. There's a sample program you can download at www.osmosian.com, and you can write us for further information: help@osmosian.com.

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        John, Since this si the Suggestions Dicussion board, I would think this is would be an approriate forum for such questions. However, Where would you suggest I ask the question. Thank you, R/ Howard

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        The Lounge is probably the best place. This forum is for suggestions/bug reporting for the site itself.

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          pnhnt wrote:

          My 9-year-old has expressed an interest in computer programming. I am currently taking a college level course in C#, which probably would not be suitable for him. I would like to get some suggestion on where to get him started.

          You might want to take a look at our Plain English development system, designed specifically with "the programmers of tomorrow" in mind. There's a sample program you can download at www.osmosian.com, and you can write us for further information: help@osmosian.com.

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          It only took you 7 hours to reply :|


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            The Lounge is probably the best place. This forum is for suggestions/bug reporting for the site itself.

            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

            The Lounge is probably the best place.

            But wouldn't someone get on the OP's case for a "programming question"?


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              Hello All, My 9-year-old has expressed an interest in computer programming. I am currently taking a college level course in C#, which probably would not be suitable for him. I would like to get some suggestion on where to get him started. Thank you, R/ Howard -- moved at 16:33 Wednesday 6th December, 2006

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              It gets laughed at sometimes but how about VB.NET? Then the transition to C# etc. would be easier. Elaine :rose:

              The tigress is here :-D

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                Hello All, My 9-year-old has expressed an interest in computer programming. I am currently taking a college level course in C#, which probably would not be suitable for him. I would like to get some suggestion on where to get him started. Thank you, R/ Howard -- moved at 16:33 Wednesday 6th December, 2006

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                At 9 years old, I think that is too young to start learning programming.

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                  Hello All, My 9-year-old has expressed an interest in computer programming. I am currently taking a college level course in C#, which probably would not be suitable for him. I would like to get some suggestion on where to get him started. Thank you, R/ Howard -- moved at 16:33 Wednesday 6th December, 2006

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                  You could try teaching him KPL (Kid's Programming Language).

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                    It gets laughed at sometimes but how about VB.NET? Then the transition to C# etc. would be easier. Elaine :rose:

                    The tigress is here :-D

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                    Trollslayer wrote:

                    how about VB.NET?

                    Yes if you want him to "think" he can develop software, but if you want him to "learn" how to develop software... ummm no.

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                      At 9 years old, I think that is too young to start learning programming.

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                      Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                      At 9 years old, I think that is too young to start learning programming.

                      Nonsense! http://www.papert.org/[^]

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                        pnhnt wrote:

                        My 9-year-old has expressed an interest in computer programming. I am currently taking a college level course in C#, which probably would not be suitable for him. I would like to get some suggestion on where to get him started.

                        You might want to take a look at our Plain English development system, designed specifically with "the programmers of tomorrow" in mind. There's a sample program you can download at www.osmosian.com, and you can write us for further information: help@osmosian.com.

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                        Osmobi-Wan, why did you change your name? Did you think "The Grand Negut" looked better in grey than "Osmobi-Wan"? It doesn't. However currently Score: 1:0(3 votes) induces a Kyle chuckle.

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                          Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                          At 9 years old, I think that is too young to start learning programming.

                          Nonsense! http://www.papert.org/[^]

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                          Think we might have to agree to disagree.

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                            Osmobi-Wan, why did you change your name? Did you think "The Grand Negut" looked better in grey than "Osmobi-Wan"? It doesn't. However currently Score: 1:0(3 votes) induces a Kyle chuckle.

                            led mike

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                            led mike wrote:

                            Osmobi-Wan, why did you change your name?

                            Y'know, I like "Osmobi-Wan"; wish I'd thought of it. But my official title has been Grand Negus since we formed the Order, and I've got the hair in my ears to justify it. The change occurred when we removed ourselves from these forums, ran a few experiments under other names, and then returned.

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                            However currently Score: 1:0(3 votes) induces a Kyle chuckle.

                            Yeah, I get the reference. But 3 out of 3,603,949! What are we to do? Surely, the people have spoken! Here's a thread with (I think) the most votes we've ever generated on this site - 24 out of 3,603,949 [^]. And almost all of them got the answer wrong! Shog's thread (just above the one sited) got 25 votes, from apparently brighter (or less biased) people. But still a tiny minority...

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                              Hello All, My 9-year-old has expressed an interest in computer programming. I am currently taking a college level course in C#, which probably would not be suitable for him. I would like to get some suggestion on where to get him started. Thank you, R/ Howard -- moved at 16:33 Wednesday 6th December, 2006

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                              LOGO and nothing else, or maybe the new lego thingy.


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                                led mike wrote:

                                Osmobi-Wan, why did you change your name?

                                Y'know, I like "Osmobi-Wan"; wish I'd thought of it. But my official title has been Grand Negus since we formed the Order, and I've got the hair in my ears to justify it. The change occurred when we removed ourselves from these forums, ran a few experiments under other names, and then returned.

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                                However currently Score: 1:0(3 votes) induces a Kyle chuckle.

                                Yeah, I get the reference. But 3 out of 3,603,949! What are we to do? Surely, the people have spoken! Here's a thread with (I think) the most votes we've ever generated on this site - 24 out of 3,603,949 [^]. And almost all of them got the answer wrong! Shog's thread (just above the one sited) got 25 votes, from apparently brighter (or less biased) people. But still a tiny minority...

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                                The Grand Negus wrote:

                                most votes we've ever generated on this site

                                :| I've seen people a while back do a trick to get over 200 votes that were all 5's :suss:


                                I'd like to help but I don't feel like Googling it for you.

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                                  LOGO and nothing else, or maybe the new lego thingy.


                                  Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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                                  Yeah LOGO was the first language I learned. Simple environment and good visual feedback. VB.Net would probably be a bit overwhelming. My nephews are around that age and they played around with Flash a fair bit. I think this could be a good start.

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                                    At 9 years old, I think that is too young to start learning programming.

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                                    I disagree, I was doing BASIC programming at age 9. It's never too early to try new things and discover what you're good or bad at. I thought I was going to be an architect until I discovered that I can't draw.

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                                      I disagree, I was doing BASIC programming at age 9. It's never too early to try new things and discover what you're good or bad at. I thought I was going to be an architect until I discovered that I can't draw.

                                      --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ

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                                      A child aged 9 should be having fun with his/her friends playing whatever games etc that is suitable for that age group. And yes that can include some PlayStation games. There is plenty of time for a child to develop an interest in the finer workings of computing insofar that children are not expected to have any kind of computing knowledge until they reach the latter years of primary education and even then the kind of knowledge should be restricted to how to use a web browser for very basic research and the low-end basics of how to use a word processor, but not much else until they start High School education.

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                                        A child aged 9 should be having fun with his/her friends playing whatever games etc that is suitable for that age group. And yes that can include some PlayStation games. There is plenty of time for a child to develop an interest in the finer workings of computing insofar that children are not expected to have any kind of computing knowledge until they reach the latter years of primary education and even then the kind of knowledge should be restricted to how to use a web browser for very basic research and the low-end basics of how to use a word processor, but not much else until they start High School education.

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                                        Colin Angus Mackay
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                                        Why shouldn't a child want to learn how computer programs work? I was 8 when I got interested in that sort of thing. I wrote programs in BASIC and assembler (although I have to admit the assembler programs were very simple and only did things like drive the audio to produce a siren sound rather than the simple beeps the supplied BASIC language would permit)


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                                          John, Since this si the Suggestions Dicussion board, I would think this is would be an approriate forum for such questions. However, Where would you suggest I ask the question. Thank you, R/ Howard

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                                          pnhnt wrote:

                                          Since this si the Suggestions Dicussion board

                                          Am I missing something? I see this in the general discussions forum, not the suggestions forum.:confused:


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