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    pnhnt wrote:

    Since this si the Suggestions Dicussion board

    Am I missing something? I see this in the general discussions forum, not the suggestions forum.:confused:


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    Dan Neely
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    The thread was moved.

    -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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      The thread was moved.

      -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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      :cool:


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        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

        The Lounge is probably the best place.

        But wouldn't someone get on the OP's case for a "programming question"?


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        It's not a programming question.

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          Why shouldn't a child want to learn how computer programs work? I was 8 when I got interested in that sort of thing. I wrote programs in BASIC and assembler (although I have to admit the assembler programs were very simple and only did things like drive the audio to produce a siren sound rather than the simple beeps the supplied BASIC language would permit)


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          Colin, don't get me wrong, I am all in favour of all our children learning the art of programming but not until such time that they are ready, willing and able. But if, from a child's perspective, they see their parents using the computer for programming then the child is likely to show an interest which dependant upon the age of the child could be either a good thing or an unhealthy thing. This argument is equally true if say a parent was a graphics artist, the child being inquisitive, will show similar interest in that rather than programming. Above I said "ready, willing and able", I qualify that by saying that in terms of a child's development, they all develop at different at rates, but broadly, statistics can show when a child is most likely to be receptive of a particular subject, consequently the UK National Curriculum addresses that. This is also a reason why calculus is not taught to a child at an earlier age, although there are exceptions such as where a child might be particularly gifted in mathematics. But I am still of the opinion that a 9 year old child should be playing with his/her friends and/or brothers/sisters rather than sitting in front of a computer monitor, which does nothing to address the problem of childhood obesity and childhood health and fitness. Richard.

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            Colin, don't get me wrong, I am all in favour of all our children learning the art of programming but not until such time that they are ready, willing and able. But if, from a child's perspective, they see their parents using the computer for programming then the child is likely to show an interest which dependant upon the age of the child could be either a good thing or an unhealthy thing. This argument is equally true if say a parent was a graphics artist, the child being inquisitive, will show similar interest in that rather than programming. Above I said "ready, willing and able", I qualify that by saying that in terms of a child's development, they all develop at different at rates, but broadly, statistics can show when a child is most likely to be receptive of a particular subject, consequently the UK National Curriculum addresses that. This is also a reason why calculus is not taught to a child at an earlier age, although there are exceptions such as where a child might be particularly gifted in mathematics. But I am still of the opinion that a 9 year old child should be playing with his/her friends and/or brothers/sisters rather than sitting in front of a computer monitor, which does nothing to address the problem of childhood obesity and childhood health and fitness. Richard.

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            Richard A. Abbott wrote:

            I am still of the opinion that a 9 year old child should be playing with his/her friends

            I did when I was 9 and learning to program then, too. So learning to program at the age of 9 may not necessarily hurt a kid's social skills.


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              Richard A. Abbott wrote:

              I am still of the opinion that a 9 year old child should be playing with his/her friends

              I did when I was 9 and learning to program then, too. So learning to program at the age of 9 may not necessarily hurt a kid's social skills.


              If you try to write that in English, I might be able to understand more than a fraction of it. - Guffa

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              I do accept your views.

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                It's not a programming question.

                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                It's not a programming question.

                I know, but it is almost certainly given that somebody would start spouting off about it in the Lounge.


                If you try to write that in English, I might be able to understand more than a fraction of it. - Guffa

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                  I do accept your views.

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                  Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                  I do accept your views.

                  Same here. I knew kids who couldn't be pulled away from computers and programming when I was 9, and the odd thing is, most of them did not go for jobs in IT :suss:


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                    At 9 years old, I think that is too young to start learning programming.

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                    I started playing around with a primitive version of BASIC when I was 8. I taught myself TMS9900 Assembler at 12, Intel x86 Assembler at 15, COBOL, FORTRAN, and C at 16. What do you think is an appropriate age?

                    Dave Kreskowiak Microsoft MVP - Visual Basic

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                      Hello All, My 9-year-old has expressed an interest in computer programming. I am currently taking a college level course in C#, which probably would not be suitable for him. I would like to get some suggestion on where to get him started. Thank you, R/ Howard -- moved at 16:33 Wednesday 6th December, 2006

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                      If you'r looking for a simple language to get your kid started on then I would recommend (although it is my opinion), Python [^]. While most developers I know don't know python it is quite a useful language for teaching. It was originally developed to be an educational language (although is has grown far bigger these days). The nice thing about Python is that it comes with an interpreter as well. So your kid can type a command and see instantly what it does. E.g.: >>> a = 25 >>> b = 45 >>> print(a+b) 70 >>> Python has often been described as a minimalistic programming language because it's core is very basic.

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