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  • K Kevin McFarlane

    http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2068351,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K0000594[^] About half of the average business PCs in North America are unable to meet the minimum requirements for Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system, while 94 percent do not meet the system requirements for Vista Premium. Within these figures, 41 percent and 78 percent, respectively, require RAM upgrades to meet the minimum and premium system requirements of Vista, says a new study by Softchoice Research, which is expected to be released later this week. In comparison, when Windows XP was released, some 71 percent of the PCs met its system requirements, Softchoice services consultant Dean Williams said in an executive summary of the report.

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    That's a good thing. Maybe business will back off of Vista completely. The reality is that there is really nothing in Vista that businesses "need". There's a bottom line of ROI. Since it's minimal (if any at all), they may stay away.

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    • K Kevin McFarlane

      http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2068351,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K0000594[^] About half of the average business PCs in North America are unable to meet the minimum requirements for Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system, while 94 percent do not meet the system requirements for Vista Premium. Within these figures, 41 percent and 78 percent, respectively, require RAM upgrades to meet the minimum and premium system requirements of Vista, says a new study by Softchoice Research, which is expected to be released later this week. In comparison, when Windows XP was released, some 71 percent of the PCs met its system requirements, Softchoice services consultant Dean Williams said in an executive summary of the report.

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      I love how the racket in the pc industry works. Hardware manufactures package MS operating systems in order to sell windows. MS produces code that requires upgrades to sell hardware. All of them making fat ca$h, while us consumers foot the bill. God bless America.

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        That's a good thing. Maybe business will back off of Vista completely. The reality is that there is really nothing in Vista that businesses "need". There's a bottom line of ROI. Since it's minimal (if any at all), they may stay away.

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        I can imagine Microsoft making the next version of Office only run on Vista, at which point businesses will be forced to upgrade, as they won't want to risk losing trade when they can't open office documents that are emailed to them from third parties. Either that, or the boss wants to play Halo 2

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          I can imagine Microsoft making the next version of Office only run on Vista, at which point businesses will be forced to upgrade, as they won't want to risk losing trade when they can't open office documents that are emailed to them from third parties. Either that, or the boss wants to play Halo 2

          -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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          Halo 2 is the ONLY thing that interested me about Vista.

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          • K Kevin McFarlane

            http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2068351,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K0000594[^] About half of the average business PCs in North America are unable to meet the minimum requirements for Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system, while 94 percent do not meet the system requirements for Vista Premium. Within these figures, 41 percent and 78 percent, respectively, require RAM upgrades to meet the minimum and premium system requirements of Vista, says a new study by Softchoice Research, which is expected to be released later this week. In comparison, when Windows XP was released, some 71 percent of the PCs met its system requirements, Softchoice services consultant Dean Williams said in an executive summary of the report.

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            Michael P Butler
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            The development box given to me is barely spec'd to run Windows 2000. One day I must work for one of these companies who give their developers Windows XP

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            • K Kevin McFarlane

              http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2068351,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K0000594[^] About half of the average business PCs in North America are unable to meet the minimum requirements for Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system, while 94 percent do not meet the system requirements for Vista Premium. Within these figures, 41 percent and 78 percent, respectively, require RAM upgrades to meet the minimum and premium system requirements of Vista, says a new study by Softchoice Research, which is expected to be released later this week. In comparison, when Windows XP was released, some 71 percent of the PCs met its system requirements, Softchoice services consultant Dean Williams said in an executive summary of the report.

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              Dan Neely
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              So what! Most businesses won't be upgrading the OS on their existing PCs. Users will get vista when their old computer ends it's lease and is replaced with a new one.

              -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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                The development box given to me is barely spec'd to run Windows 2000. One day I must work for one of these companies who give their developers Windows XP

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                2-3 years back in Uni, we had PC's barely running Redhat 6!!! for CS prac class...

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                • K Kevin McFarlane

                  http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2068351,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K0000594[^] About half of the average business PCs in North America are unable to meet the minimum requirements for Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system, while 94 percent do not meet the system requirements for Vista Premium. Within these figures, 41 percent and 78 percent, respectively, require RAM upgrades to meet the minimum and premium system requirements of Vista, says a new study by Softchoice Research, which is expected to be released later this week. In comparison, when Windows XP was released, some 71 percent of the PCs met its system requirements, Softchoice services consultant Dean Williams said in an executive summary of the report.

                  Kevin

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                  The federal government probably won't even allow Vista on their systems until 2009... I would bet that the percentage of existing home systems capable of running Vista is much lower. I personally don't see many people buying new systems just so they can use Vista. That would amount to a $1000 OS upgrade (and I use the term "upgrade" very lightly). I wonder what Microsoft was thinking...

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                    I can imagine Microsoft making the next version of Office only run on Vista, at which point businesses will be forced to upgrade, as they won't want to risk losing trade when they can't open office documents that are emailed to them from third parties. Either that, or the boss wants to play Halo 2

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                    benjymous wrote:

                    Either that, or the boss wants to play Halo 2

                    It'd probably be cheaper to buy an Xbox and a used copy of Halo 2. In fact, do that anyway... it's the best online FPS I've ever played.

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                      So what! Most businesses won't be upgrading the OS on their existing PCs. Users will get vista when their old computer ends it's lease and is replaced with a new one.

                      -- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.

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                      Yep, eventually in 3/4 years Vista will be mainstream, I really don't know why people are whining.

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                      • M Michael P Butler

                        The development box given to me is barely spec'd to run Windows 2000. One day I must work for one of these companies who give their developers Windows XP

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                        You would be so jealous. I have a workstation beefed up like a server. It has a 3.0 Gig Xeon processor, 2 gigs of ram, SCSI Array drives and Dual Monitors. The workstation is almost 2 years old and it still runs twice as fast as my new dual core machine at home.

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                        • M Michael P Butler

                          The development box given to me is barely spec'd to run Windows 2000. One day I must work for one of these companies who give their developers Windows XP

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                          What about stopwatching compile times? It took a while to get the company out of the "go to (german consumer electronics mega chain), buy some machine, not to expensive." habit. You get a good workhorse for €600 here, it's one of the better investments for the company to make.


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                          • K Kevin McFarlane

                            http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2068351,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K0000594[^] About half of the average business PCs in North America are unable to meet the minimum requirements for Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system, while 94 percent do not meet the system requirements for Vista Premium. Within these figures, 41 percent and 78 percent, respectively, require RAM upgrades to meet the minimum and premium system requirements of Vista, says a new study by Softchoice Research, which is expected to be released later this week. In comparison, when Windows XP was released, some 71 percent of the PCs met its system requirements, Softchoice services consultant Dean Williams said in an executive summary of the report.

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                            Much less *need* to run Vista. Xp woks fin (which can noc be said from all Microsoft products), and moving hastily can only worsen things. So keep your feet still - the next PC you buy will bring Vista anyway. The only one who cares is Microsofts CFO.


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                              I can imagine Microsoft making the next version of Office only run on Vista, at which point businesses will be forced to upgrade, as they won't want to risk losing trade when they can't open office documents that are emailed to them from third parties. Either that, or the boss wants to play Halo 2

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                              benjymous wrote:

                              I can imagine Microsoft making the next version of Office only run on Vista,

                              To have OpenOffice take over all of the market of their cash cow? I seriously doubt this. They will force the PC-vendors to bundle Vista and reliy on the natural turnover of PC-Hardware.


                              "We trained hard, but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams we would be reorganised. I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganising: and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress, while producing confusion, inefficiency and demoralisation." -- Caius Petronius, Roman Consul, 66 A.D.

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                              • E ednrgc

                                That's a good thing. Maybe business will back off of Vista completely. The reality is that there is really nothing in Vista that businesses "need". There's a bottom line of ROI. Since it's minimal (if any at all), they may stay away.

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                                edboe wrote:

                                The reality is that there is really nothing in Vista that businesses "need". There's a bottom line of ROI. Since it's minimal (if any at all), they may stay away.

                                Well, businesses might not "need" single-source easily update-able images which make for easier deployment, tighter group policy control for things like USB drives, and user-mode drivers that let folks skip the call to the help desk, but all those things sure would come in handy. I'm always so sure I'll come off sounding like a Microsoft fanboy when I say things like that (I'm not), but the Vista FUD crusade is ridiculous. Vista is the most business friendly version of Windows there has ever been.


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                                  edboe wrote:

                                  The reality is that there is really nothing in Vista that businesses "need". There's a bottom line of ROI. Since it's minimal (if any at all), they may stay away.

                                  Well, businesses might not "need" single-source easily update-able images which make for easier deployment, tighter group policy control for things like USB drives, and user-mode drivers that let folks skip the call to the help desk, but all those things sure would come in handy. I'm always so sure I'll come off sounding like a Microsoft fanboy when I say things like that (I'm not), but the Vista FUD crusade is ridiculous. Vista is the most business friendly version of Windows there has ever been.


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                                  The real issue is that Microsoft's track reacord. Most corporations will shy away until (at least) SP1 or even SP2.

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                                    The real issue is that Microsoft's track reacord. Most corporations will shy away until (at least) SP1 or even SP2.

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                                    I'd certainly agree with that.


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                                      I'd certainly agree with that.


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                                      reacord .... or record :-O

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                                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                        The federal government probably won't even allow Vista on their systems until 2009... I would bet that the percentage of existing home systems capable of running Vista is much lower. I personally don't see many people buying new systems just so they can use Vista. That would amount to a $1000 OS upgrade (and I use the term "upgrade" very lightly). I wonder what Microsoft was thinking...

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                                        Charlie Williams
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                                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                        I wonder what Microsoft was thinking...

                                        They've got to move the ball forward at some point, no? At what point do you stop writing for 10 year old hardware?


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                                        • K Kevin McFarlane

                                          http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2068351,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03119TX1K0000594[^] About half of the average business PCs in North America are unable to meet the minimum requirements for Microsoft's Windows Vista operating system, while 94 percent do not meet the system requirements for Vista Premium. Within these figures, 41 percent and 78 percent, respectively, require RAM upgrades to meet the minimum and premium system requirements of Vista, says a new study by Softchoice Research, which is expected to be released later this week. In comparison, when Windows XP was released, some 71 percent of the PCs met its system requirements, Softchoice services consultant Dean Williams said in an executive summary of the report.

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                                          Talk about increased productivity!

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