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  • J Judah Gabriel Himango

    UniveRSS[^] uses Windows Presentation Foundation (FKA Avalon) to display a 3D universe where galaxies represent the folders of your RSS feed directory, and the stars are represented by the spinning cubes that hold the feed information. Size and position of the feed cubes indicate how many unread items they contain. I must say, it's a rather unique way of looking at RSS feeds. I'm gonna try it for the next week or so and see how it works compared to FireFox's built-in live bookmarks and compared to traditional RSS readers.

    Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Taking the Congressional Oath on the Bible The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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    Dario Solera
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    Wow! Very impressive. Unfortunately, I cannot try it at this moment. :sigh:

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    • J Judah Gabriel Himango

      UniveRSS[^] uses Windows Presentation Foundation (FKA Avalon) to display a 3D universe where galaxies represent the folders of your RSS feed directory, and the stars are represented by the spinning cubes that hold the feed information. Size and position of the feed cubes indicate how many unread items they contain. I must say, it's a rather unique way of looking at RSS feeds. I'm gonna try it for the next week or so and see how it works compared to FireFox's built-in live bookmarks and compared to traditional RSS readers.

      Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Taking the Congressional Oath on the Bible The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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      Douglas Troy
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      Judah Himango wrote:

      to display a 3D universe where galaxies represent the folders of your RSS feed directory

      BAH! A real geek has their RSS feeds displayed in a hyper dimensional stringed universe of binary; fully encrypted, of course. :rolleyes:


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      • J Judah Gabriel Himango

        UniveRSS[^] uses Windows Presentation Foundation (FKA Avalon) to display a 3D universe where galaxies represent the folders of your RSS feed directory, and the stars are represented by the spinning cubes that hold the feed information. Size and position of the feed cubes indicate how many unread items they contain. I must say, it's a rather unique way of looking at RSS feeds. I'm gonna try it for the next week or so and see how it works compared to FireFox's built-in live bookmarks and compared to traditional RSS readers.

        Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Taking the Congressional Oath on the Bible The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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        Lost User
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        Judah Himango wrote:

        to display a 3D universe where galaxies represent the folders of your RSS feed directory, and the stars are represented by the spinning cubes that hold the feed information.

        So this is one of the reasons why Vista is lacking the important features. That's what MS programmers are busy with :rolleyes:

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          Judah Himango wrote:

          to display a 3D universe where galaxies represent the folders of your RSS feed directory

          BAH! A real geek has their RSS feeds displayed in a hyper dimensional stringed universe of binary; fully encrypted, of course. :rolleyes:


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          Douglas Troy wrote:

          displayed in a hyper dimensional stringed universe of binary

          MS-Dos console ?! :cool:


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          • J Judah Gabriel Himango

            UniveRSS[^] uses Windows Presentation Foundation (FKA Avalon) to display a 3D universe where galaxies represent the folders of your RSS feed directory, and the stars are represented by the spinning cubes that hold the feed information. Size and position of the feed cubes indicate how many unread items they contain. I must say, it's a rather unique way of looking at RSS feeds. I'm gonna try it for the next week or so and see how it works compared to FireFox's built-in live bookmarks and compared to traditional RSS readers.

            Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Taking the Congressional Oath on the Bible The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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            Warren Stevens
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            Judah Himango wrote:

            a 3D universe where ...size and position of the feed cubes indicate how many unread items they contain.

            I don't want to be too much of a curmudgeon, but if you want to indicate how many unread items are in a folder, how about using a number ???:wtf: 3D interfaces are a solution looking for a problem to solve. I'd say that 3D is inappropriate for 95% of applications, but we're going to see a lot of it anyway, because it will look neat (until you try to actually use it). Just because you can do something doesn't mean your should. It reminds me of the mid-90's when everyone discovered that you could make your text flash by adding a simple tag. ...but I should look on the bright side. At least I'll now have a 3D RSS reader, so I can watch cubes floating around telling me "0 new fixes" for a 4-year old critical bug in Visual Studio 2003... http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=98776[^] :| Yeah, that'll be cool...


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              Judah Himango wrote:

              a 3D universe where ...size and position of the feed cubes indicate how many unread items they contain.

              I don't want to be too much of a curmudgeon, but if you want to indicate how many unread items are in a folder, how about using a number ???:wtf: 3D interfaces are a solution looking for a problem to solve. I'd say that 3D is inappropriate for 95% of applications, but we're going to see a lot of it anyway, because it will look neat (until you try to actually use it). Just because you can do something doesn't mean your should. It reminds me of the mid-90's when everyone discovered that you could make your text flash by adding a simple tag. ...but I should look on the bright side. At least I'll now have a 3D RSS reader, so I can watch cubes floating around telling me "0 new fixes" for a 4-year old critical bug in Visual Studio 2003... http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=98776[^] :| Yeah, that'll be cool...


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              Judah Gabriel Himango
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              Warren Stevens wrote:

              how about using a number

              That would be the first logical thought, anyway. But have you considered that numbers require reading, and that the brain can more easily pick up on pictures than words? I'd much rather you show me a picture of your car, than have you write a thousand word essay describing it. To give a more applicable example, imagine I have 100 feeds. Having to read a number on each of them to figure out which has more unread items is going to be tedious. Seeing that 5 of them are big and the rest are small tells me that instantly without having to read anything. So it will be interesting to see how useful this is; I'm gonna try it when I get home and use it for a week. I've tried at least 3 RSS readers, and for the last few months, Firefox's live bookmarks feature. It'll be interesting to see how well this idea works out. Anyhow, give 'em a brake, they're trying to show off some of the new APIs. :) Nuttin' wrong with that. :) p.s. for that bug report in RC editor of VS2003, have you looked at the hotfixes? A quick glace reveals MS has checked in a fix for that bug. Otherwise I must be missing something.

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                Judah Himango wrote:

                to display a 3D universe where galaxies represent the folders of your RSS feed directory

                BAH! A real geek has their RSS feeds displayed in a hyper dimensional stringed universe of binary; fully encrypted, of course. :rolleyes:


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                Yes, but you can't cross the streams. That would be bad.


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                • W Warren Stevens

                  Judah Himango wrote:

                  a 3D universe where ...size and position of the feed cubes indicate how many unread items they contain.

                  I don't want to be too much of a curmudgeon, but if you want to indicate how many unread items are in a folder, how about using a number ???:wtf: 3D interfaces are a solution looking for a problem to solve. I'd say that 3D is inappropriate for 95% of applications, but we're going to see a lot of it anyway, because it will look neat (until you try to actually use it). Just because you can do something doesn't mean your should. It reminds me of the mid-90's when everyone discovered that you could make your text flash by adding a simple tag. ...but I should look on the bright side. At least I'll now have a 3D RSS reader, so I can watch cubes floating around telling me "0 new fixes" for a 4-year old critical bug in Visual Studio 2003... http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=98776[^] :| Yeah, that'll be cool...


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                  Maximilien
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                  the 3d reader might simply be a proof of concept of the WPF, or a cool demo of the possibilities of the WPF. the solution looks complex compared to the problem, but it's a nice demo.


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                    the 3d reader might simply be a proof of concept of the WPF, or a cool demo of the possibilities of the WPF. the solution looks complex compared to the problem, but it's a nice demo.


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                    Warren Stevens
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                    Maximilien wrote:

                    solution looks complex compared to the problem, but it's a nice demo.

                    That's kind of my point. There's no doubt that 3D interfaces look cooler, but I haven't seen many cases where a well-designed 2D application isn't actually more useful. For example, the new 3D task-switcher in Vista: http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/12/0,1425,sz=1&i=124978,00.jpg[^] would probably have been better done as a rectangular grid pattern (with each app shrunken into one of the grid cells).


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                      Yes, but you can't cross the streams. That would be bad.


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                      I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. What do you mean, "bad"?


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                        I'm fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing. What do you mean, "bad"?


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                        'Bad', as in every particle in your body receeding at the speed of light...


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                        • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                          Warren Stevens wrote:

                          how about using a number

                          That would be the first logical thought, anyway. But have you considered that numbers require reading, and that the brain can more easily pick up on pictures than words? I'd much rather you show me a picture of your car, than have you write a thousand word essay describing it. To give a more applicable example, imagine I have 100 feeds. Having to read a number on each of them to figure out which has more unread items is going to be tedious. Seeing that 5 of them are big and the rest are small tells me that instantly without having to read anything. So it will be interesting to see how useful this is; I'm gonna try it when I get home and use it for a week. I've tried at least 3 RSS readers, and for the last few months, Firefox's live bookmarks feature. It'll be interesting to see how well this idea works out. Anyhow, give 'em a brake, they're trying to show off some of the new APIs. :) Nuttin' wrong with that. :) p.s. for that bug report in RC editor of VS2003, have you looked at the hotfixes? A quick glace reveals MS has checked in a fix for that bug. Otherwise I must be missing something.

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                          Warren Stevens
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                          Judah Himango wrote:

                          I'd much rather you show me a picture of your car, than have you write a thousand word essay describing it.

                          That's not a fair comparison. We're talking about a single number. Text is superior.

                          Judah Himango wrote:

                          ...imagine I have 100 feeds. Having to read a number on each of them to figure out which has more unread items is going to be tedious. Seeing that 5 of them are big and the rest are small tells me that instantly without having to read anything.

                          A 2D RSS interface should look somewhat like Outlook, so click on the column header, to sort by "number of unread items". Done. When you have 100 feeds in 3D, the only thing you will be able to do (mentally) is sort them into piles of (say) "lots", "some", "few" messages. Once they're in 3D you won't be able to tell the size difference between item 15 and item 18.

                          Judah Himango wrote:

                          Nuttin' wrong with that.

                          ...except Vista is years late, with tons of features pulled, and the first service pack for Visual Studio 2003 was in 2006, and ... Yes, it's a neat little application, but when the core of your business is in trouble (i.e. Windows shipping years late, even after features are getting pulled out left, right and center) they should have given the people that coded this thing a more important job. (since they're obviously decent developers). BTW, if you have an interest in interface design, you must read the following book: "The Visual Display of Quantitative Information" http://www.amazon.com/Visual-Display-Quantitative-Information/dp/0961392142[^]


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                            Judah Himango wrote:

                            a 3D universe where ...size and position of the feed cubes indicate how many unread items they contain.

                            I don't want to be too much of a curmudgeon, but if you want to indicate how many unread items are in a folder, how about using a number ???:wtf: 3D interfaces are a solution looking for a problem to solve. I'd say that 3D is inappropriate for 95% of applications, but we're going to see a lot of it anyway, because it will look neat (until you try to actually use it). Just because you can do something doesn't mean your should. It reminds me of the mid-90's when everyone discovered that you could make your text flash by adding a simple tag. ...but I should look on the bright side. At least I'll now have a 3D RSS reader, so I can watch cubes floating around telling me "0 new fixes" for a 4-year old critical bug in Visual Studio 2003... http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=98776[^] :| Yeah, that'll be cool...


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                            Dustin Metzgar
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                            Warren Stevens wrote:

                            3D interfaces are a solution looking for a problem to solve.

                            Absolutely. Ultimately you're displaying on a 2D screen anyway. So whether it really was 3D or just looks 3D doesn't matter. What matters is being able to present the data to the user in as simple a format as possible. At first, I imagine the 3D capabilities will be abused and we'll have a lot of really annoying UI's. Maybe in a few years we'll see some tasteful and professional uses of it.


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                              Warren Stevens wrote:

                              3D interfaces are a solution looking for a problem to solve.

                              Absolutely. Ultimately you're displaying on a 2D screen anyway. So whether it really was 3D or just looks 3D doesn't matter. What matters is being able to present the data to the user in as simple a format as possible. At first, I imagine the 3D capabilities will be abused and we'll have a lot of really annoying UI's. Maybe in a few years we'll see some tasteful and professional uses of it.


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                              Dustin Metzgar wrote:

                              At first, I imagine the 3D capabilities will be abused and we'll have a lot of really annoying UI's. Maybe in a few years we'll see some tasteful and professional uses of it.

                              :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: Optimist.

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                              • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                                UniveRSS[^] uses Windows Presentation Foundation (FKA Avalon) to display a 3D universe where galaxies represent the folders of your RSS feed directory, and the stars are represented by the spinning cubes that hold the feed information. Size and position of the feed cubes indicate how many unread items they contain. I must say, it's a rather unique way of looking at RSS feeds. I'm gonna try it for the next week or so and see how it works compared to FireFox's built-in live bookmarks and compared to traditional RSS readers.

                                Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Taking the Congressional Oath on the Bible The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                                Rocky Moore
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                                That's cool, but it took me a while to figure out the right mouse click was my back button :) First time I used "ESC" and it was the quit button, so I exited. Then I could not find the problem listed in my start menu (getting kind of busy now with too many apps). So, for the first time, I used the search feature in the bottom of the Vista Start menu and after typing 'uni', there it was at the top of the list. I like this Vista thingy more every day :)

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