Gun Enthusiasts... what to buy?
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Since you like shotguns, I would go for a Remington semi automatic 12 gague with an open choke. At 30 yards you are going to scare the shit out of any intruder. Plus, you arent likely to kill him out right.
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If you're firing a gun in the direction of a person, the goal should not be to scare the shit out of them. If you're not prepared to actually kill them, you should with the tactic known as "turn and run", and hope they are as hesitant as you are to pull a trigger (and the bad guy being a poor shot would definitely be a plus for you).
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Jasmine2501 wrote:
they were in the wrong house.
I hope they paid for repairs.
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Nothing happened, they were just at the wrong address. They were supposed to be at the building across the street, but they got the Apt. Number right. I never thought to ask them how they got the door open...
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If you're firing a gun in the direction of a person, the goal should not be to scare the shit out of them. If you're not prepared to actually kill them, you should with the tactic known as "turn and run", and hope they are as hesitant as you are to pull a trigger (and the bad guy being a poor shot would definitely be a plus for you).
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
If you're firing a gun in the direction of a person, the goal should not be to scare the sh*t out of them.
Yeah I'm well aware of that. I have no issue with that. That's why shotguns are out. Those are for birds.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
We have a problem with home invasions
This is where criminals break into a house while the family are there? If so, something that is unheard of in the UK :sigh:
The perps are usually easy to catch due to their ackward walk caused by their giant brass nuts.
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http://www.chuckhawks.com/first_handgun.htm[^] My mother used to carry a small .22 caliber handgun as well. It wasn't a revolver (don't know the brand), but the kick back wasn't bad at all and well I thought it was light at least, of course it may be heavier for some to hold. Regarding safety, the obvious has been the best way. Make sure every adult that lives with you that you trust knows about it and its location, keep the safety switch on, locked up, etc. Just don't get a 357 unless you want to knock your arm off while shooting it. :laugh:
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
ust don't get a 357 unless you want to knock your arm off while shooting it.
In a word - bullshit. I own 2 357 Mags and they are both a joy to shoot. The Ruger is a bit lighter than the S&W and the recoil is a bit more but nothing to talk about. Both are, of course , wheel guns but I would sure like a semi in that caliber ( about 1500-2000 bucks ). I also own a 44 mag (Ruger) but even that bad boy does not have a enormous recoil. You know its there but you cn get back on target very quickly. Richard
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We have a problem with hme invasions, so... I have a Browning 9mm in a home-made couch holster with nine in the mag and one in the pipe 24/7, and my wife has a S&W Model 637 .38 revolver (the Airweights are nice, but kinda pricey). Both of us have a c/c license. For longer range stuff, I have a Model 700 Remington with a fluted barrel and chambered for .308 with what I call "reach-out-and-touch-someone" optics - and I'm good out to about 300 yards - nobody gets away. :)
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I have a Browning 9mm
I have an old Browning 9MM. They are nice but for self defense I much prefer a revolver. No safety to worry about, no slipping and sliding on spent cases, no failure mode if the ammo is good.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
For longer range stuff, I have a Model 700 Remington with a fluted barrel and chambered for .308 with what I call "reach-out-and-touch-someone" optics - and I'm good out to about 300 yards - nobody gets away
I have a custom made rifle that has the Remington breech and trigger assembly mounted on a fitted walnut monte carlo stock and a Douglass stainless steel barrel fitted with a 4-12x scope in 7MM Magnum. Good out to 1000 Yds in the right hands. My wifes uncle ( now deceased ) built it for me 20 years ago. Its heavy but Lord can it "reach out and touch someone". Very high velocity rifle. Makes a unique sound when fired. Flat shooting monster. Richard
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Revolvers are not good for amateurs. The single action makes aiming horrible, unless you're really good at it. If you're fighting for your life, then having to cock the damn thing is way to stressful. Semi-automatic is the way to go...
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Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
Semi-automatic is the way to go...
Yea - right. Count the failure modes on any semi. Then on the wheel gun. Pointing your nice 40 Cal Glock at the bad guy and finding that the safety is on or theres no round in the chamber will get the old heart beating. Meanwhile I am gonna put 5 in the midsection with my 357. If that does not stop him I am toast anyway. If I need more than 5 shots then I want a M16. Richard
Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. --Mark Twain
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I think its a shame that you feel the need to do this.
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Josh Gray wrote:
I think its a shame that you feel the need to do this.
Guns are a lot like parachutes. You probably will never ever need one but if you do - nothing else will take its place. Remember the old saying - "Its better to be judged by twelve than carried by six". A gun is just an insurance policy. Richard
Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. --Mark Twain
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Since you like shotguns, I would go for a Remington semi automatic 12 gague with an open choke. At 30 yards you are going to scare the shit out of any intruder. Plus, you arent likely to kill him out right.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
fat_boy wrote:
Since you like shotguns, I would go for a Remington semi automatic 12 gague with an open choke. At 30 yards you are going to scare the sh*t out of any intruder. Plus, you arent likely to kill him out right.
That would be according to the load you have in it. I have a 20 gauge pump that I use ( well used as I don't hunt much any more ) for bird hunting. Loaded with #8 or #6 shot it would not kill or even wound seriously at 30 yds. The same gun with #2 or buck would kill at 40+yds. With a sabot slug it would kill at 100 yds. Richard
Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. --Mark Twain
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
ust don't get a 357 unless you want to knock your arm off while shooting it.
In a word - bullshit. I own 2 357 Mags and they are both a joy to shoot. The Ruger is a bit lighter than the S&W and the recoil is a bit more but nothing to talk about. Both are, of course , wheel guns but I would sure like a semi in that caliber ( about 1500-2000 bucks ). I also own a 44 mag (Ruger) but even that bad boy does not have a enormous recoil. You know its there but you cn get back on target very quickly. Richard
Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. --Mark Twain
Richard Stringer wrote:
In a word - bullsh*t.
Man, people just don't know when I'm being tongue in cheek. They were complaining about a 2 pound gun being heavy, get it now? ;P
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