Hardware Question
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I been trouble shooting a pc.I would like to know if the processor was not seated correctly,like as per the digaram (P4-LGA) could it have been short circuited?.The issue is that after I placed it in the correct postion,the mother board bios is not posting,the motherboard is new.The dvd rom light keeps blinking. Sorry if this is the wrong place to post. Thanks n Regards mejax
_________________________ "When the superior man refrains from acting, his force is felt for a thousand li." Sun Tzu
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I been trouble shooting a pc.I would like to know if the processor was not seated correctly,like as per the digaram (P4-LGA) could it have been short circuited?.The issue is that after I placed it in the correct postion,the mother board bios is not posting,the motherboard is new.The dvd rom light keeps blinking. Sorry if this is the wrong place to post. Thanks n Regards mejax
_________________________ "When the superior man refrains from acting, his force is felt for a thousand li." Sun Tzu
The motherboard might be DOA. Do you have another motherboard you can try the CPU in?
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
I been trouble shooting a pc.I would like to know if the processor was not seated correctly,like as per the digaram (P4-LGA) could it have been short circuited?.The issue is that after I placed it in the correct postion,the mother board bios is not posting,the motherboard is new.The dvd rom light keeps blinking. Sorry if this is the wrong place to post. Thanks n Regards mejax
_________________________ "When the superior man refrains from acting, his force is felt for a thousand li." Sun Tzu
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The motherboard might be DOA. Do you have another motherboard you can try the CPU in?
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001Thanks for your reply. I can't rule out the possiblity of a DOA of the motherboard.The thing is that its new and also the PSU and DDR2 RAM is new.The i removed the PCI cards and tried.Also tried with the HDD unplugged.Still it won't give a beep.
_________________________ "When the superior man refrains from acting, his force is felt for a thousand li." Sun Tzu
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I been trouble shooting a pc.I would like to know if the processor was not seated correctly,like as per the digaram (P4-LGA) could it have been short circuited?.The issue is that after I placed it in the correct postion,the mother board bios is not posting,the motherboard is new.The dvd rom light keeps blinking. Sorry if this is the wrong place to post. Thanks n Regards mejax
_________________________ "When the superior man refrains from acting, his force is felt for a thousand li." Sun Tzu
mejax wrote:
The issue is that after I placed it in the correct postion,the mother board bios is not posting,the motherboard is new.
Before you toss the motherboard, make sure your RAM is set correctly (is it seated properly, does it need to be in pairs, is it supported, etc.). Also, make sure a pin isn't bent on the CPU itself. If you build your on computers, it's worth spending $10 on a PSU tester. And, test the PSU to make sure it supplies enough power to the CPU, etc. and that all cables are where they need to go (P4s use two sources of power for instance). If it's none of that then most likely your motherboard is toast.
mejax wrote:
The dvd rom light keeps blinking.
Assuming it's a slow blink, that just means it's getting power.
Jeremy Falcon "It's a good thing to do and a tasty way to do it." - Wilford Brimley[^]
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I been trouble shooting a pc.I would like to know if the processor was not seated correctly,like as per the digaram (P4-LGA) could it have been short circuited?.The issue is that after I placed it in the correct postion,the mother board bios is not posting,the motherboard is new.The dvd rom light keeps blinking. Sorry if this is the wrong place to post. Thanks n Regards mejax
_________________________ "When the superior man refrains from acting, his force is felt for a thousand li." Sun Tzu
A lot of motherboards have some sort of debug code readout. Look for some lit up hex digits somewhere on the board. If it's not there, and the board is dead, then I'd recommend a replacement which does have such a readout - they can be fairly useful when building your own systems.
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Thanks for your reply. I can't rule out the possiblity of a DOA of the motherboard.The thing is that its new and also the PSU and DDR2 RAM is new.The i removed the PCI cards and tried.Also tried with the HDD unplugged.Still it won't give a beep.
_________________________ "When the superior man refrains from acting, his force is felt for a thousand li." Sun Tzu
mejax wrote:
Still it won't give a beep.
Ok, I'm assuming it's not an older motherboard where you actually have to wire the PC speaker and it being wired wrong is why you get no beep. But... If none of my other suggestions don't work, try pulling out the video card too. I've seen that stop POST if it's not supported. Yeah, your computer will barf more than likely (unless it's set to use an on-board video card), but at least you'll hear the beeps if that was the reason. [edit] Should anyone be curious this was when AGP changed voltages. [/edit]
Jeremy Falcon "It's a good thing to do and a tasty way to do it." - Wilford Brimley[^]
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Thanks for your reply. I can't rule out the possiblity of a DOA of the motherboard.The thing is that its new and also the PSU and DDR2 RAM is new.The i removed the PCI cards and tried.Also tried with the HDD unplugged.Still it won't give a beep.
_________________________ "When the superior man refrains from acting, his force is felt for a thousand li." Sun Tzu
Are you sure you plugged in the power connector(s) correctly? MOST PSUs come with two or THREE connectors that you have to connect to the motherboard. If your motherboard has a 24-pin connector, the PSU must have a 24-pin (or modular 20/4 pin) pigtail on it. Further, that's an additional 4-pin connector that usually plugs in close to the CPU. Also (and this is a little embarassing), make sure the toggle switch on the back of the CPU is toggled to the ON position.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Are you sure you plugged in the power connector(s) correctly? MOST PSUs come with two or THREE connectors that you have to connect to the motherboard. If your motherboard has a 24-pin connector, the PSU must have a 24-pin (or modular 20/4 pin) pigtail on it. Further, that's an additional 4-pin connector that usually plugs in close to the CPU. Also (and this is a little embarassing), make sure the toggle switch on the back of the CPU is toggled to the ON position.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Also (and this is a little embarassing), make sure the toggle switch on the back of the CPU is toggled to the ON position.
If the DVD drive is getting powa it's gots to be on yo!
Jeremy Falcon "It's a good thing to do and a tasty way to do it." - Wilford Brimley[^]
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Are you sure you plugged in the power connector(s) correctly? MOST PSUs come with two or THREE connectors that you have to connect to the motherboard. If your motherboard has a 24-pin connector, the PSU must have a 24-pin (or modular 20/4 pin) pigtail on it. Further, that's an additional 4-pin connector that usually plugs in close to the CPU. Also (and this is a little embarassing), make sure the toggle switch on the back of the CPU is toggled to the ON position.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Also (and this is a little embarassing), make sure the toggle switch on the back of the CPU is toggled to the ON position.
I presume you mean the PSU? And I must admit, this one did catch me out on the last machine I built :doh: (I was also wondering why I wasn't getting any post beeps...)
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ednrgc wrote:
Chip only goes in one way. The board is probably a doorstop.
It all depends on the pressure you apply... :-D
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Also (and this is a little embarassing), make sure the toggle switch on the back of the CPU is toggled to the ON position.
If the DVD drive is getting powa it's gots to be on yo!
Jeremy Falcon "It's a good thing to do and a tasty way to do it." - Wilford Brimley[^]
That could have been caused by residual static discharge as a result of the high level of frustration the OP is experiencing. :)
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
I been trouble shooting a pc.I would like to know if the processor was not seated correctly,like as per the digaram (P4-LGA) could it have been short circuited?.The issue is that after I placed it in the correct postion,the mother board bios is not posting,the motherboard is new.The dvd rom light keeps blinking. Sorry if this is the wrong place to post. Thanks n Regards mejax
_________________________ "When the superior man refrains from acting, his force is felt for a thousand li." Sun Tzu
Try the bios reset thing. Most of the time, this involves adding a jumper to a pair of pins for 10 seconds, and then powering up.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Try the bios reset thing. Most of the time, this involves adding a jumper to a pair of pins for 10 seconds, and then powering up.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001I put the processor p4 back on the orginal board that had the complaint,well it starts up,but the p4 is overheating on that board ( i guess there was not 'wrong' seating since the processor only goes in one way).The old board is giving sirens after reboot and as per manual sirens means overheating.Well now I ask my self well if the hdd and the pci express agp work on the old board which unfortunately has lost the ablity to sustain a boot session(complaint) I guess the processor could be overheating or not working properly on the new board.I guess i need to put it back on the new one and test.(man its a pain)
_________________________ "When the superior man refrains from acting, his force is felt for a thousand li." Sun Tzu
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That could have been caused by residual static discharge as a result of the high level of frustration the OP is experiencing. :)
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001:-D True true.
Jeremy Falcon "It's a good thing to do and a tasty way to do it." - Wilford Brimley[^]
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I put the processor p4 back on the orginal board that had the complaint,well it starts up,but the p4 is overheating on that board ( i guess there was not 'wrong' seating since the processor only goes in one way).The old board is giving sirens after reboot and as per manual sirens means overheating.Well now I ask my self well if the hdd and the pci express agp work on the old board which unfortunately has lost the ablity to sustain a boot session(complaint) I guess the processor could be overheating or not working properly on the new board.I guess i need to put it back on the new one and test.(man its a pain)
_________________________ "When the superior man refrains from acting, his force is felt for a thousand li." Sun Tzu
Are you putting a heatsink/fan on the CPU? Those old Intel P4's run hot hot hot. Do you have a spare cpu you can plug into the new motherboard?
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Are you putting a heatsink/fan on the CPU? Those old Intel P4's run hot hot hot. Do you have a spare cpu you can plug into the new motherboard?
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001There is the orginal heat sink of the processor its big and fan on top of it working.No spare CPU (well i'll have to give it to the tech guys and see now) Well i put it on the new MB with only hdds attached no dvd rom again.Its not reaching anywhere no beep.Could be a DOA or something.Options I have it is give it to some tech people and let them make somthing out of the new motherboard which has a warranty.:sigh: Well thanks for all your instant replies.
_________________________ "When the superior man refrains from acting, his force is felt for a thousand li." Sun Tzu
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Are you sure you plugged in the power connector(s) correctly? MOST PSUs come with two or THREE connectors that you have to connect to the motherboard. If your motherboard has a 24-pin connector, the PSU must have a 24-pin (or modular 20/4 pin) pigtail on it. Further, that's an additional 4-pin connector that usually plugs in close to the CPU. Also (and this is a little embarassing), make sure the toggle switch on the back of the CPU is toggled to the ON position.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
MOST PSUs come with two or THREE connectors that you have to connect to the motherboard. If your motherboard has a 24-pin connector, the PSU must have a 24-pin (or modular 20/4 pin) pigtail on it. Further, that's an additional 4-pin connector that usually plugs in close to the CPU.
Unless you have a really highend board*, or lots of expansion cards, the +4 part of a 20+4 power connector generally isn't needed. The 4 pin 12V CPU connector is an almost absolute requirement though. *The DFI NF4 lanparty I'm going to be using to replace my current asus board with this weekend, needs the full 24, a 4pin molex (even if not going SLI), and IIRC a 4pin floppy connected to the board. IIRC their next gen boards use an 8pin 12V connector that was originally intended for dual processor servers instead.
-- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.
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mejax wrote:
The issue is that after I placed it in the correct postion,the mother board bios is not posting,the motherboard is new.
Before you toss the motherboard, make sure your RAM is set correctly (is it seated properly, does it need to be in pairs, is it supported, etc.). Also, make sure a pin isn't bent on the CPU itself. If you build your on computers, it's worth spending $10 on a PSU tester. And, test the PSU to make sure it supplies enough power to the CPU, etc. and that all cables are where they need to go (P4s use two sources of power for instance). If it's none of that then most likely your motherboard is toast.
mejax wrote:
The dvd rom light keeps blinking.
Assuming it's a slow blink, that just means it's getting power.
Jeremy Falcon "It's a good thing to do and a tasty way to do it." - Wilford Brimley[^]
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
If you build your on computers, it's worth spending $10 on a PSU tester.
I'd rather buy $10 more hardware somewhere in the system and just use a bent paperclip. :laugh::laugh:
-- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
If you build your on computers, it's worth spending $10 on a PSU tester.
I'd rather buy $10 more hardware somewhere in the system and just use a bent paperclip. :laugh::laugh:
-- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.
dan neely wrote:
I'd rather buy $10 more hardware somewhere in the system and just use a bent paperclip.
:-D But you don't get to see the neato LEDs that come with the tester to light up that way.
Jeremy Falcon "It's a good thing to do and a tasty way to do it." - Wilford Brimley[^]
