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    Michael Dunn
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    1. In Explorer, if you click on an empty CD/DVD drive, you get the same message as before about putting in a disc. But Vista opens the tray without any warning. I'm sure that's gonna cause damage some day (or at least a spilled drink) when a laptop gets used in cramped quarters (like an airplane seat) and the tray pops out and bumps into something else. 2. I use 4NT[^] as my command line, and I want to have two shortcuts on the desktop, one normal and one elevated. I can't do this. When I change the properties of one shortcut, the other shortcut gets partially modified too. :mad: Explorer is improved somewhat over beta 2. But I still hate how the tree buttons disappear when the tree doesn't have the focus. I still can't figure out why that "feature" exists.

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      1. In Explorer, if you click on an empty CD/DVD drive, you get the same message as before about putting in a disc. But Vista opens the tray without any warning. I'm sure that's gonna cause damage some day (or at least a spilled drink) when a laptop gets used in cramped quarters (like an airplane seat) and the tray pops out and bumps into something else. 2. I use 4NT[^] as my command line, and I want to have two shortcuts on the desktop, one normal and one elevated. I can't do this. When I change the properties of one shortcut, the other shortcut gets partially modified too. :mad: Explorer is improved somewhat over beta 2. But I still hate how the tree buttons disappear when the tree doesn't have the focus. I still can't figure out why that "feature" exists.

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      Jeremy Falcon
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      Michael Dunn wrote:

      But I still hate how the tree buttons disappear when the tree doesn't have the focus. I still can't figure out why that "feature" exists.

      It's so you can secretly embed subliminal messages in morse code when recording video captures of your product about how wonderful your software is. :~

      Jeremy Falcon "It's a good thing to do and a tasty way to do it." - Wilford Brimley[^]

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        1. In Explorer, if you click on an empty CD/DVD drive, you get the same message as before about putting in a disc. But Vista opens the tray without any warning. I'm sure that's gonna cause damage some day (or at least a spilled drink) when a laptop gets used in cramped quarters (like an airplane seat) and the tray pops out and bumps into something else. 2. I use 4NT[^] as my command line, and I want to have two shortcuts on the desktop, one normal and one elevated. I can't do this. When I change the properties of one shortcut, the other shortcut gets partially modified too. :mad: Explorer is improved somewhat over beta 2. But I still hate how the tree buttons disappear when the tree doesn't have the focus. I still can't figure out why that "feature" exists.

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        Arnd H
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        Michael Dunn wrote: Vista opens the tray without any warning I'd really hate this (as soon as I use Vista, which will be in a hopefully very distant future). I already hated it when my old computer closed the tray after power-on or reboot. I once had a disc partially inserted when this happened; it survived, but badly scratched. Another example: My old case[^] had a door in front of the slots for the CD/DVD drives, and it was usually closed (how often do you really need a CD/DVD in these days of disc images and large HDDs, after all?). By accident, I once told an application to open the tray without opening that door before. There were some really nasty noises, but fortunately no damage. I'd hate to know that one misplaced click now suffices...

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          1. In Explorer, if you click on an empty CD/DVD drive, you get the same message as before about putting in a disc. But Vista opens the tray without any warning. I'm sure that's gonna cause damage some day (or at least a spilled drink) when a laptop gets used in cramped quarters (like an airplane seat) and the tray pops out and bumps into something else. 2. I use 4NT[^] as my command line, and I want to have two shortcuts on the desktop, one normal and one elevated. I can't do this. When I change the properties of one shortcut, the other shortcut gets partially modified too. :mad: Explorer is improved somewhat over beta 2. But I still hate how the tree buttons disappear when the tree doesn't have the focus. I still can't figure out why that "feature" exists.

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          peterchen
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          Michael Dunn wrote:

          But Vista opens the tray without any warning.

          Does Explorer still use the "if the previously selected tree node magically vanishes, select the next node in the tree"? This would make this new feature extra dangerous.

          Michael Dunn wrote:

          the tree buttons disappear when the tree doesn't have the focus. I still can't figure out why that "feature" exists

          So it doesn't look to technical.


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            1. In Explorer, if you click on an empty CD/DVD drive, you get the same message as before about putting in a disc. But Vista opens the tray without any warning. I'm sure that's gonna cause damage some day (or at least a spilled drink) when a laptop gets used in cramped quarters (like an airplane seat) and the tray pops out and bumps into something else. 2. I use 4NT[^] as my command line, and I want to have two shortcuts on the desktop, one normal and one elevated. I can't do this. When I change the properties of one shortcut, the other shortcut gets partially modified too. :mad: Explorer is improved somewhat over beta 2. But I still hate how the tree buttons disappear when the tree doesn't have the focus. I still can't figure out why that "feature" exists.

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            ed welch
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            Those are the penalties you pay for being an early adopter. Speaking of buggy features, I heard they screwed up the Hibernate feature as well (http://neosmart.net/blog/archives/299).

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              Those are the penalties you pay for being an early adopter. Speaking of buggy features, I heard they screwed up the Hibernate feature as well (http://neosmart.net/blog/archives/299).

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              Michael Dunn
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              I don't understand. These things are in the RTM build. A lot of people are going to be exposed to them on January 30.

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                Michael Dunn wrote:

                But Vista opens the tray without any warning.

                Does Explorer still use the "if the previously selected tree node magically vanishes, select the next node in the tree"? This would make this new feature extra dangerous.

                Michael Dunn wrote:

                the tree buttons disappear when the tree doesn't have the focus. I still can't figure out why that "feature" exists

                So it doesn't look to technical.


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                Michael Dunn
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                peterchen wrote:

                Does Explorer still use the "if the previously selected tree node magically vanishes, select the next node in the tree"? This would make this new feature extra dangerous.

                It sure does. :~

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                  I don't understand. These things are in the RTM build. A lot of people are going to be exposed to them on January 30.

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                  Chris Losinger
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                  anything before Service Pack 2 is "early', in my book

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                    anything before Service Pack 2 is "early', in my book

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                    Chris Losinger wrote:

                    anything before Service Pack 2...

                    ...and that'll prolly be in early 2009.

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                    • M Michael Dunn

                      1. In Explorer, if you click on an empty CD/DVD drive, you get the same message as before about putting in a disc. But Vista opens the tray without any warning. I'm sure that's gonna cause damage some day (or at least a spilled drink) when a laptop gets used in cramped quarters (like an airplane seat) and the tray pops out and bumps into something else. 2. I use 4NT[^] as my command line, and I want to have two shortcuts on the desktop, one normal and one elevated. I can't do this. When I change the properties of one shortcut, the other shortcut gets partially modified too. :mad: Explorer is improved somewhat over beta 2. But I still hate how the tree buttons disappear when the tree doesn't have the focus. I still can't figure out why that "feature" exists.

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                      Chris Austin
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                      Michael Dunn wrote:

                      In Explorer, if you click on an empty CD/DVD drive, you get the same message as before about putting in a disc. But Vista opens the tray without any warning.

                      Am I evil for laughing at this? Actually, I think I ran into that at about 2AM this morning and thought to myself: "there is no way that made it through betas and release canidates. I must have accidently ejected the CD myself." I then went to sleep :) Cheers!

                      My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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                      • M Michael Dunn

                        1. In Explorer, if you click on an empty CD/DVD drive, you get the same message as before about putting in a disc. But Vista opens the tray without any warning. I'm sure that's gonna cause damage some day (or at least a spilled drink) when a laptop gets used in cramped quarters (like an airplane seat) and the tray pops out and bumps into something else. 2. I use 4NT[^] as my command line, and I want to have two shortcuts on the desktop, one normal and one elevated. I can't do this. When I change the properties of one shortcut, the other shortcut gets partially modified too. :mad: Explorer is improved somewhat over beta 2. But I still hate how the tree buttons disappear when the tree doesn't have the focus. I still can't figure out why that "feature" exists.

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                        Clickok
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                        Michael Dunn wrote:

                        But Vista opens the tray without any warning.

                        In my PC Vista will try until die, my DVD drive is broken and just open inserting something in the emergency hole (no pun intended)... muahahahahahaha:-> -- modified at 21:06 Sunday 10th December, 2006


                        For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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                          Michael Dunn wrote:

                          But Vista opens the tray without any warning.

                          In my PC Vista will try until die, my DVD drive is broken and just open inserting something in the emergency hole (no pun intended)... muahahahahahaha:-> -- modified at 21:06 Sunday 10th December, 2006


                          For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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                          Chris Austin
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                          Clickok wrote:

                          inserting something in the emergency hole

                          move this to the soapbox mister! :-D

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                            Those are the penalties you pay for being an early adopter. Speaking of buggy features, I heard they screwed up the Hibernate feature as well (http://neosmart.net/blog/archives/299).

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                            For months my wife and I have both used the sleep and hibernate features extensively. Typical problem happens ever now and then where an DirectX game might not come back properly, but this happens at times just flipping to the start menu and back to the game, so I will not blame that on sleep/hibernate. The only times I have experienced a problem with them was when I had an install of something go wrong or something like that, then the next time I would come back from a hibernate (I hibernate the machine every night) it had problems when it came back up. Out of probably 200 or more hibernate/awake cycles and many more sleep/awake cycles, Vista 64 RC2 only had a problem twice (other than a couple times with games on my wife's machine) and both of those were problems due to failed installs or trying to run software not compatible with Vista. The Sleep/Hibernate/Awake features in Vista happen to be in my top ten list of great working features on my systems. In the past (Windows XP, 2003), hibernate was flaky on my systems at best).

                            Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: Vista for Web Development, Read this first! Latest Tech Blog Post: If only light bulbs could last like this!

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                              Clickok wrote:

                              inserting something in the emergency hole

                              move this to the soapbox mister! :-D

                              My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Lon

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                              Clickok
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                              Chris Austin wrote:

                              move this to the soapbox mister!

                              modified to be suitable to Lounge :rolleyes:


                              For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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                                Chris Austin wrote:

                                move this to the soapbox mister!

                                modified to be suitable to Lounge :rolleyes:


                                For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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                                Chris Austin
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                                LOL! I hope the smiley and the joke icon implied that I was joking.

                                My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Lon

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                                  LOL! I hope the smiley and the joke icon implied that I was joking.

                                  My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Lon

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                                  Clickok
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                                  Chris Austin wrote:

                                  I hope the smiley and the joke icon implied that I was joking.

                                  You are welcome ;)


                                  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(John 3:16) :badger:

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                                    For months my wife and I have both used the sleep and hibernate features extensively. Typical problem happens ever now and then where an DirectX game might not come back properly, but this happens at times just flipping to the start menu and back to the game, so I will not blame that on sleep/hibernate. The only times I have experienced a problem with them was when I had an install of something go wrong or something like that, then the next time I would come back from a hibernate (I hibernate the machine every night) it had problems when it came back up. Out of probably 200 or more hibernate/awake cycles and many more sleep/awake cycles, Vista 64 RC2 only had a problem twice (other than a couple times with games on my wife's machine) and both of those were problems due to failed installs or trying to run software not compatible with Vista. The Sleep/Hibernate/Awake features in Vista happen to be in my top ten list of great working features on my systems. In the past (Windows XP, 2003), hibernate was flaky on my systems at best).

                                    Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: Vista for Web Development, Read this first! Latest Tech Blog Post: If only light bulbs could last like this!

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                                    Michael Dunn
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                                    Wow, I had zero luck with anything other than shut down in beta2/RC1. The machine would either hard reset or bluescreen. If I'm feeling lucky I'll try hibernating tonight.

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                                      Wow, I had zero luck with anything other than shut down in beta2/RC1. The machine would either hard reset or bluescreen. If I'm feeling lucky I'll try hibernating tonight.

                                      --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | PimpFish | CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ

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                                      Monty2
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                                      Michael Dunn wrote:

                                      If I'm feeling lucky I'll try hibernating tonight.

                                      5 years ago that sentence would've sounded really odd. :laugh:


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                                        peterchen wrote:

                                        Does Explorer still use the "if the previously selected tree node magically vanishes, select the next node in the tree"? This would make this new feature extra dangerous.

                                        It sure does. :~

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                                        peterchen
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                                        :wtf: That's amateurish. Raymond Chen needs to stop blogging.


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                                          Michael Dunn wrote:

                                          If I'm feeling lucky I'll try hibernating tonight.

                                          5 years ago that sentence would've sounded really odd. :laugh:


                                          My sins are bloody red, my coffee is a black hole.

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                                          Lost User
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                                          Not for Michael :-D

                                          The tigress is here :-D

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