How did you learn to program?
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You skipped over the 8088/8086/80286? Guess that Commodore was pretty sweet! Never got hold of one, but the graphics we're supposed to be impressive.
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!
Steve Echols wrote:
You skipped over the 8088/8086/80286?
Yep. The Commodore wasn't all that bad of a machine for its time. It was a big leap from a 6502 based machine to Intel :-> The junior college I started off at had their Ada compilers on 8088s and it took 2 minutes to compile a typical hello world program. My 386, well, about 5 seconds :laugh:
If you try to write that in English, I might be able to understand more than a fraction of it. - Guffa
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Steve Echols wrote:
You skipped over the 8088/8086/80286?
Yep. The Commodore wasn't all that bad of a machine for its time. It was a big leap from a 6502 based machine to Intel :-> The junior college I started off at had their Ada compilers on 8088s and it took 2 minutes to compile a typical hello world program. My 386, well, about 5 seconds :laugh:
If you try to write that in English, I might be able to understand more than a fraction of it. - Guffa
I can hear my kid now (in 15 years) - "You used a silicon based processor? How'd you ever get anything done?" :laugh:
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!
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I can hear my kid now (in 15 years) - "You used a silicon based processor? How'd you ever get anything done?" :laugh:
- S 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on!
Steve Echols wrote:
I can hear my kid now (in 15 years) - "You used a silicon based processor? How'd you ever get anything done?"
No kidding :laugh:
If you try to write that in English, I might be able to understand more than a fraction of it. - Guffa
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How did you learn to program? Is it from the internet? a book? If from internet wut site and if book, wut book? I'm trying to learn any language like C++ or C# and i dont have any materials and dont know where to get some good sources. When you first learn your language, was it hard and how long did it take you to start to create simple programs? I'm sry if this is too many questions but im new here and i want to understand some of the experiences you had.
Code2326 wrote:
im new here and i want to understand some of the experiences you had.
Welcome aboard. Your question would attract more those hot-shots old timers who programmed virtually with every language imaginable. They'd remmember the good ol' days, and show off how they programmed on machines that existed maybe even before the invention of electricity. You read this, you get depressed. Well, don't. Most of the people who answer here in C# forums -I can name many-, are C++ old timers -including me, though my c++ became real rusty these days-. They have one big advantage you still don't have yet you can aquire: Experience. Each day you program you grow in that field. Books, internet, seminars, magazines, etc... aren't a sufficient source to learn from. Programming is merely problem solving using code, and until you face some programming problems, and solve them youself -or less educational: get stuck in them and see how they are solved by a pro-, you won't learn. To cut things short -I don't like long posts-, you can learn from the following sources: 1- Books: You should choose the book that suites you, but know that any book talking about an entire language -e.g. C#, C++, Java, etc..- is usually introductory. I'd go for the "For Dummies", they are very basic and fun to read. 2- Google: Use it after you grasp the basics, and when you get stuck in a certain problem. you can search for quick solutions or hints for your problem. 3- CodeProject Articles: Use it if you need to know more about a certain topic, usually not covered -or not covered well-, in books. e.g. Sockets, Remoting, Cryptography, etc... 4- CodeProject Forums: Use it when you really get stuck while working andd need a push in the right direction. Or you can browse it to see what problems faced other people, and how they are solved. This could be very educational. Also there are other sites like CP. Look for them. 5- Read examples and source codes. You can find some interesting examples in Microsoft's website. I belive they are called "101 examples in C#". 6- You can subscribe in magazines, or read newsletters to get updates after you grasp the basics, but don't start with them. 7- Code youself. Programming is mainly based on experienced not just knowledge. Programming is like art, you have to practice it.
Code2326 wrote:
When you first learn your language, was it hard and how long did it take you to st
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How did you learn to program? Is it from the internet? a book? If from internet wut site and if book, wut book? I'm trying to learn any language like C++ or C# and i dont have any materials and dont know where to get some good sources. When you first learn your language, was it hard and how long did it take you to start to create simple programs? I'm sry if this is too many questions but im new here and i want to understand some of the experiences you had.
You asked on two forums C++/C# :)
WhiteSky
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
10 PRINT "How old are you?"20 INPUT a30 IF a < 8 THEN PRINT "You're too young to use this computer!"; GO TO 1040 PRINT "Okay - You are old enough to use this computer"
If you had tried this:
10 PRINT "Are you a cute looking girl? sweetie?"
20 INPUT a
30 IF a=true then PRINT "REALLY??"; GOTO 20;It'd have become a maintanance free application! :-D
:Gong: 歡迎光臨 吐 西批 :Gong:
When we can go out of this loop:-D (never or always)
WhiteSky
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You asked on two forums C++/C# :)
WhiteSky
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When we can go out of this loop:-D (never or always)
WhiteSky
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And the lounge
Upcoming Scottish Developers events: * Glasgow: Tell us what you want to see in 2007 My: Website | Blog | Photos
I think he/she want all views not only C# programmers or C++ programer:)
WhiteSky
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How did you learn to program? Is it from the internet? a book? If from internet wut site and if book, wut book? I'm trying to learn any language like C++ or C# and i dont have any materials and dont know where to get some good sources. When you first learn your language, was it hard and how long did it take you to start to create simple programs? I'm sry if this is too many questions but im new here and i want to understand some of the experiences you had.
There are numerous ways to learn but I can let you know what worked best for me. I started going to Grad school for Masters in CS, I got about 1/2 way done and felt I had no real world experience for which I could change my occupation. I found defining a problem and then coding to solve the problem to be the easiest way to learn. Come up with an idea and just start coding it. You will come across numerous issues but everything has been done before so the solution should be available through Google. I found studying for certification also helps, gives you a goal to strive for. Read a book like Code Complete before you start, pick a language, read up on the syntax on the web to gain a high level understanding, create a project idea, and code away.. Just my 2 cents
Christopher Pond Innovative Technology Solutions SpartanSoft.net.
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K
That's so cool. Here's what I started off with: http://oldcomputers.net/ts1000.html[^] --modified I wish I could find it. I do still have my old Commodore 128 in the attic and have been debating on pulling it out to fiddle around with it :-D
You will see a delete button on each of your posts. Press it. - Colin Angus Mackay
PaulC1972 wrote:
still have my old Commodore 128
Hang on to it! I still kick myself for getting rid of my C64. I had 2 (one for parts), a tape drive, a butt load of software (even a very functionable GUI!). I sold the whole thing at a yard sale for $50!
David Wilkes
