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    Neville Franks
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    I've just built a very nice new MicroATX PC for my wife and want to move her WinXP and all apps+licenses+data to the new PC. Both PC's are on a LAN and I can also move her hard drive to the new PC if need be. For XP I understand I have to Activate the license on the new PC and stop using the old one, which isn't an issue as I'm turning her old PC int a NAS Box. I also undertand I may need to call MS re. Activation. So next is the apps. Is there any easy (automated) way to move them, or do I just reinstall and copy all data?

    Neville Franks, Author of Surfulater www.surfulater.com "Save what you Surf" and ED for Windows www.getsoft.com

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      I've just built a very nice new MicroATX PC for my wife and want to move her WinXP and all apps+licenses+data to the new PC. Both PC's are on a LAN and I can also move her hard drive to the new PC if need be. For XP I understand I have to Activate the license on the new PC and stop using the old one, which isn't an issue as I'm turning her old PC int a NAS Box. I also undertand I may need to call MS re. Activation. So next is the apps. Is there any easy (automated) way to move them, or do I just reinstall and copy all data?

      Neville Franks, Author of Surfulater www.surfulater.com "Save what you Surf" and ED for Windows www.getsoft.com

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      Luis Alonso Ramos
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      I don't know but you could have some problems with installed drivers, if they are not compatible with the old computer. I tried to do that once (boot a PC with another's HD) and I had some problems (nothing I could not fix with a couple of boots into safe mode.)

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      • N Neville Franks

        I've just built a very nice new MicroATX PC for my wife and want to move her WinXP and all apps+licenses+data to the new PC. Both PC's are on a LAN and I can also move her hard drive to the new PC if need be. For XP I understand I have to Activate the license on the new PC and stop using the old one, which isn't an issue as I'm turning her old PC int a NAS Box. I also undertand I may need to call MS re. Activation. So next is the apps. Is there any easy (automated) way to move them, or do I just reinstall and copy all data?

        Neville Franks, Author of Surfulater www.surfulater.com "Save what you Surf" and ED for Windows www.getsoft.com

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        i don't know if this solution will work, but i have migrated from a desktop setup on a laptop HDD to an actual laptop and that's what i'm typing on right now. What i did was stick the hard drive into the new machine and then booted up off of an XP install CD. Then out of the options "repair", "install" and "exit" i picked "install". Then when it asks you to pick the partition pick the current install and i think press enter. The dialog box would ask if you want to install over the top or repair the current installation. Now select repair. I'm not sure if all XP install CDs do that but i've done it more than once with XP Home, corporate license. I'm not sure if OEM versions will act this way. What it does is it runs a script that pulls off any system files and then reinstalls them to fit the configuration of the machine you are using, but it doesn't touch user profiles and such... Roswell P.S. Just remember to backup first because if you aren't paying attention you might go wrong. Try the trick first on a spare hdd

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          I've just built a very nice new MicroATX PC for my wife and want to move her WinXP and all apps+licenses+data to the new PC. Both PC's are on a LAN and I can also move her hard drive to the new PC if need be. For XP I understand I have to Activate the license on the new PC and stop using the old one, which isn't an issue as I'm turning her old PC int a NAS Box. I also undertand I may need to call MS re. Activation. So next is the apps. Is there any easy (automated) way to move them, or do I just reinstall and copy all data?

          Neville Franks, Author of Surfulater www.surfulater.com "Save what you Surf" and ED for Windows www.getsoft.com

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          Taka Muraoka
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          Acronis True Image will let you clone a disc. I've never used this feature but I think it's what you need. You can get a trial version if you don't want to buy it. But honestly, you've got a nice new machine, why would you want to put a crufty old installation of Windows on it instead of clean one :-)


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            I've just built a very nice new MicroATX PC for my wife and want to move her WinXP and all apps+licenses+data to the new PC. Both PC's are on a LAN and I can also move her hard drive to the new PC if need be. For XP I understand I have to Activate the license on the new PC and stop using the old one, which isn't an issue as I'm turning her old PC int a NAS Box. I also undertand I may need to call MS re. Activation. So next is the apps. Is there any easy (automated) way to move them, or do I just reinstall and copy all data?

            Neville Franks, Author of Surfulater www.surfulater.com "Save what you Surf" and ED for Windows www.getsoft.com

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            Joe Woodbury
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            I say reinstall from scratch. Beyond all the junk present in the old install, the odds of you getting a "slightly wrong" install is inevitable; you WILL end up with an unstable install.

            Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke

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            • N Neville Franks

              I've just built a very nice new MicroATX PC for my wife and want to move her WinXP and all apps+licenses+data to the new PC. Both PC's are on a LAN and I can also move her hard drive to the new PC if need be. For XP I understand I have to Activate the license on the new PC and stop using the old one, which isn't an issue as I'm turning her old PC int a NAS Box. I also undertand I may need to call MS re. Activation. So next is the apps. Is there any easy (automated) way to move them, or do I just reinstall and copy all data?

              Neville Franks, Author of Surfulater www.surfulater.com "Save what you Surf" and ED for Windows www.getsoft.com

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              Michael Dunn
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              XP has a wizard that you run on the old box and it will grab all the email/documents that it knows about (like OE data files), so you can copy them to the new box. As for the apps, I'd just reinstall; I've always found that it takes far, far longer to be clever and try to move the apps over w/o reinstalling.

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                I've just built a very nice new MicroATX PC for my wife and want to move her WinXP and all apps+licenses+data to the new PC. Both PC's are on a LAN and I can also move her hard drive to the new PC if need be. For XP I understand I have to Activate the license on the new PC and stop using the old one, which isn't an issue as I'm turning her old PC int a NAS Box. I also undertand I may need to call MS re. Activation. So next is the apps. Is there any easy (automated) way to move them, or do I just reinstall and copy all data?

                Neville Franks, Author of Surfulater www.surfulater.com "Save what you Surf" and ED for Windows www.getsoft.com

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                Orcrist
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                I'd reinstall XP on the new system. Windows has a wizard to assist with transferring settings... File and Settings Transfer Wizard This will help move over a number of settings including favorites and mail settings (not sure about the actual pst file). Look in Windows Help under "Transfer Settings" Hope this helps. David

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                • T Taka Muraoka

                  Acronis True Image will let you clone a disc. I've never used this feature but I think it's what you need. You can get a trial version if you don't want to buy it. But honestly, you've got a nice new machine, why would you want to put a crufty old installation of Windows on it instead of clean one :-)


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                  Neville Franks
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                  Thanks. I was already leaning in the direction of a clean install. My wife only uses a handfull of apps, so it shouldn't take to long. Starting off with a clean slate certainly has a lot going for it. I've got Vista running on it right now and had never seen it live in the flesh before Saturday. I'm writing a menu review, but overall I like it.

                  Neville Franks, Author of Surfulater www.surfulater.com "Save what you Surf" and ED for Windows www.getsoft.com

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                    I've just built a very nice new MicroATX PC for my wife and want to move her WinXP and all apps+licenses+data to the new PC. Both PC's are on a LAN and I can also move her hard drive to the new PC if need be. For XP I understand I have to Activate the license on the new PC and stop using the old one, which isn't an issue as I'm turning her old PC int a NAS Box. I also undertand I may need to call MS re. Activation. So next is the apps. Is there any easy (automated) way to move them, or do I just reinstall and copy all data?

                    Neville Franks, Author of Surfulater www.surfulater.com "Save what you Surf" and ED for Windows www.getsoft.com

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                    o sanchez
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                    You can do it easily with Laplink PCMover, take a look at http://www.laplink.com/pcmover/[^] Cheers.

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                    • N Neville Franks

                      I've just built a very nice new MicroATX PC for my wife and want to move her WinXP and all apps+licenses+data to the new PC. Both PC's are on a LAN and I can also move her hard drive to the new PC if need be. For XP I understand I have to Activate the license on the new PC and stop using the old one, which isn't an issue as I'm turning her old PC int a NAS Box. I also undertand I may need to call MS re. Activation. So next is the apps. Is there any easy (automated) way to move them, or do I just reinstall and copy all data?

                      Neville Franks, Author of Surfulater www.surfulater.com "Save what you Surf" and ED for Windows www.getsoft.com

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                      I would reinstall. In this situation, I would only clone the hard drive if the new machine had the exact same configuration as the old one (rare outside of a datacenter), and even then you'd need to be careful to change the computer name and possibly some other settings before connecting to your home network if you have one. To make the reinstall easier, you should know that InstallPad is your friend: http://www.installpad.com/ Jacob

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                      • N Neville Franks

                        I've just built a very nice new MicroATX PC for my wife and want to move her WinXP and all apps+licenses+data to the new PC. Both PC's are on a LAN and I can also move her hard drive to the new PC if need be. For XP I understand I have to Activate the license on the new PC and stop using the old one, which isn't an issue as I'm turning her old PC int a NAS Box. I also undertand I may need to call MS re. Activation. So next is the apps. Is there any easy (automated) way to move them, or do I just reinstall and copy all data?

                        Neville Franks, Author of Surfulater www.surfulater.com "Save what you Surf" and ED for Windows www.getsoft.com

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                        If the new PC has a different brand/model motherboard, the best advice I can give is to reinstall XP from scratch. If your copy of XP came with another machine, chances are it's an "OEM" copy. If it's an OEM copy, you can't transfer it to another machine. However, if you called for e\reactivation and told them the machine it was originally on got fried somehow, they may give you an activation key for the new machine.

                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                          I've just built a very nice new MicroATX PC for my wife and want to move her WinXP and all apps+licenses+data to the new PC. Both PC's are on a LAN and I can also move her hard drive to the new PC if need be. For XP I understand I have to Activate the license on the new PC and stop using the old one, which isn't an issue as I'm turning her old PC int a NAS Box. I also undertand I may need to call MS re. Activation. So next is the apps. Is there any easy (automated) way to move them, or do I just reinstall and copy all data?

                          Neville Franks, Author of Surfulater www.surfulater.com "Save what you Surf" and ED for Windows www.getsoft.com

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                          A clean install is really your only option. By only option, I mean clean, "problem-free (almost)" option. I just changed motherboards from a nforce chipset (that died) to the new ATI chipset. I tried to swap the motherboards and see what would happen. The computer kept rebooting because of the different chipset. I just wanted to get my files off the C: drive and move them to D: before formatting. Even though I back up often, it's not often enough. So, I tried to "fix" Windows by booting from the CD and doing a repair installation. It took over 7 hours!!! My guess is that the chipset difference was the problem. After finally moving my files over to the new drive, I did a clean install. The computer is flying now. No problems (so far) :) My advice is to backup all your important files, and just do a clean install. You'll be happier in the end.

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                            I've just built a very nice new MicroATX PC for my wife and want to move her WinXP and all apps+licenses+data to the new PC. Both PC's are on a LAN and I can also move her hard drive to the new PC if need be. For XP I understand I have to Activate the license on the new PC and stop using the old one, which isn't an issue as I'm turning her old PC int a NAS Box. I also undertand I may need to call MS re. Activation. So next is the apps. Is there any easy (automated) way to move them, or do I just reinstall and copy all data?

                            Neville Franks, Author of Surfulater www.surfulater.com "Save what you Surf" and ED for Windows www.getsoft.com

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                            I will add a vote for a clean install and then use Laplink's PCMover. After using it successfully to move my own stuff to a new machine I used it on about a half dozen client's machines. The ~$60 licence cost was less than the labour cost of me doing it manually. It's not perfect (you will probably have to reinstall CD burning software, for instance) but it's very good. I am a software developer so my machine had a LOT of apps. OTOH this DOES represent an opportunity to start with a clean slate and not transfer all of the things that you have accumulated and never really use so if you only use a few programs bite the bullet and start over. Garry (27yrs of PC experience)

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                              If the new PC has a different brand/model motherboard, the best advice I can give is to reinstall XP from scratch. If your copy of XP came with another machine, chances are it's an "OEM" copy. If it's an OEM copy, you can't transfer it to another machine. However, if you called for e\reactivation and told them the machine it was originally on got fried somehow, they may give you an activation key for the new machine.

                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                              Neville Franks
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                              Thanks John. Yes it is an OEM vesion. This is pretty annoying as the old PC is being decommissioned and I don't want to waiste money on XP when Vista is close. Hopefully the fried line will work.

                              Neville Franks, Author of Surfulater www.surfulater.com "Save what you Surf" and ED for Windows www.getsoft.com

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                                A clean install is really your only option. By only option, I mean clean, "problem-free (almost)" option. I just changed motherboards from a nforce chipset (that died) to the new ATI chipset. I tried to swap the motherboards and see what would happen. The computer kept rebooting because of the different chipset. I just wanted to get my files off the C: drive and move them to D: before formatting. Even though I back up often, it's not often enough. So, I tried to "fix" Windows by booting from the CD and doing a repair installation. It took over 7 hours!!! My guess is that the chipset difference was the problem. After finally moving my files over to the new drive, I did a clean install. The computer is flying now. No problems (so far) :) My advice is to backup all your important files, and just do a clean install. You'll be happier in the end.

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                                Neville Franks
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                                ednrgc wrote:

                                My advice is to backup all your important files, and just do a clean install. You'll be happier in the end.

                                Thanks. That's the plan now.

                                Neville Franks, Author of Surfulater www.surfulater.com "Save what you Surf" and ED for Windows www.getsoft.com

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                                  I've just built a very nice new MicroATX PC for my wife and want to move her WinXP and all apps+licenses+data to the new PC. Both PC's are on a LAN and I can also move her hard drive to the new PC if need be. For XP I understand I have to Activate the license on the new PC and stop using the old one, which isn't an issue as I'm turning her old PC int a NAS Box. I also undertand I may need to call MS re. Activation. So next is the apps. Is there any easy (automated) way to move them, or do I just reinstall and copy all data?

                                  Neville Franks, Author of Surfulater www.surfulater.com "Save what you Surf" and ED for Windows www.getsoft.com

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                                  Wilhelm Berg
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                                  you might try: How to use the Sysprep tool to automate successful deployment of Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/kb/302577/

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