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BadVista.org: FSF launches campaign against Microsoft Vista [^] ...and yet their site insists on trying to launch MSXML 5.0 when viewed in IE7. The irony. A quote: "Obviously MS Windows is already proprietary and very restrictive, and well worth rejecting." Well, obviously. I cannot abide arguments along the line of "clearly X, therefor X is true". Fight for a just cause, don't make childish simplistic statements, don't assume that everyone hates having an OS and Office system in which everything's integrated and works and installs easily and works with your peripherals. I used to admire the FSF but more and more I just don't see how they are compatible with the Software Developer as a professional. Why should it be every person's right to have everything for free? Why should we all be encouraged to use code whose licensing terms say that the product we create must be given away for free? Are lawyers, doctors, mechanics, chefs, authors or musicians expected to do the same? Just because software is intangible and can be distributed freely with no effort doesn't mean there's a moral obligation to give it away. By all means promote free software but at least be sensible about it. Fight for things to be interoperable, fight to ensure there are options, fight to push quality and promote solutions that allow investment in innovation to promote competition and reduce costs. Not everything can be free, not everyone has a problem paying a couple of hundred bucks for a tool which forms the backbone of their job and which they use 8 hours a day 7 days a week, 50 weeks a year.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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BadVista.org: FSF launches campaign against Microsoft Vista [^] ...and yet their site insists on trying to launch MSXML 5.0 when viewed in IE7. The irony. A quote: "Obviously MS Windows is already proprietary and very restrictive, and well worth rejecting." Well, obviously. I cannot abide arguments along the line of "clearly X, therefor X is true". Fight for a just cause, don't make childish simplistic statements, don't assume that everyone hates having an OS and Office system in which everything's integrated and works and installs easily and works with your peripherals. I used to admire the FSF but more and more I just don't see how they are compatible with the Software Developer as a professional. Why should it be every person's right to have everything for free? Why should we all be encouraged to use code whose licensing terms say that the product we create must be given away for free? Are lawyers, doctors, mechanics, chefs, authors or musicians expected to do the same? Just because software is intangible and can be distributed freely with no effort doesn't mean there's a moral obligation to give it away. By all means promote free software but at least be sensible about it. Fight for things to be interoperable, fight to ensure there are options, fight to push quality and promote solutions that allow investment in innovation to promote competition and reduce costs. Not everything can be free, not everyone has a problem paying a couple of hundred bucks for a tool which forms the backbone of their job and which they use 8 hours a day 7 days a week, 50 weeks a year.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
Why should it be every person's right to have everything for free?
Exactly. We all have to make a living some way or another.
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BadVista.org: FSF launches campaign against Microsoft Vista [^] ...and yet their site insists on trying to launch MSXML 5.0 when viewed in IE7. The irony. A quote: "Obviously MS Windows is already proprietary and very restrictive, and well worth rejecting." Well, obviously. I cannot abide arguments along the line of "clearly X, therefor X is true". Fight for a just cause, don't make childish simplistic statements, don't assume that everyone hates having an OS and Office system in which everything's integrated and works and installs easily and works with your peripherals. I used to admire the FSF but more and more I just don't see how they are compatible with the Software Developer as a professional. Why should it be every person's right to have everything for free? Why should we all be encouraged to use code whose licensing terms say that the product we create must be given away for free? Are lawyers, doctors, mechanics, chefs, authors or musicians expected to do the same? Just because software is intangible and can be distributed freely with no effort doesn't mean there's a moral obligation to give it away. By all means promote free software but at least be sensible about it. Fight for things to be interoperable, fight to ensure there are options, fight to push quality and promote solutions that allow investment in innovation to promote competition and reduce costs. Not everything can be free, not everyone has a problem paying a couple of hundred bucks for a tool which forms the backbone of their job and which they use 8 hours a day 7 days a week, 50 weeks a year.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
"clearly X, therefor X is true"
Better than "X is true and the proof is left as a homework for the reader, therefore X is true", I really don't like this :~ (yeah, I'm learning for an exam). Regarding the BadVista.org... obviously FSF guys have to much free time, I think they should find some real job :-).
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BadVista.org: FSF launches campaign against Microsoft Vista [^] ...and yet their site insists on trying to launch MSXML 5.0 when viewed in IE7. The irony. A quote: "Obviously MS Windows is already proprietary and very restrictive, and well worth rejecting." Well, obviously. I cannot abide arguments along the line of "clearly X, therefor X is true". Fight for a just cause, don't make childish simplistic statements, don't assume that everyone hates having an OS and Office system in which everything's integrated and works and installs easily and works with your peripherals. I used to admire the FSF but more and more I just don't see how they are compatible with the Software Developer as a professional. Why should it be every person's right to have everything for free? Why should we all be encouraged to use code whose licensing terms say that the product we create must be given away for free? Are lawyers, doctors, mechanics, chefs, authors or musicians expected to do the same? Just because software is intangible and can be distributed freely with no effort doesn't mean there's a moral obligation to give it away. By all means promote free software but at least be sensible about it. Fight for things to be interoperable, fight to ensure there are options, fight to push quality and promote solutions that allow investment in innovation to promote competition and reduce costs. Not everything can be free, not everyone has a problem paying a couple of hundred bucks for a tool which forms the backbone of their job and which they use 8 hours a day 7 days a week, 50 weeks a year.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
I'm glad they are promoting free software. I understand that everything cant be free but some things can, good things. I like to be able to view, edit, and redistribute the source code of a high quality program, especially a complete operating system. The restrictive nature of Trusted Computing scares me. At first it will be an extremely useful way to encrypt and secure data but over time it will restrict the kind of hardware and software you can install on to your computer. Computer manufacturers may restrict your from installing another operating system or even a newer version of the same operating system because they want you to buy a new computer with it pre installed. Just give it time and we will not even have free speech any more. You wont be able to type cuss words or anything the government doesn't see fit for its stupid slaves(which is us).
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BadVista.org: FSF launches campaign against Microsoft Vista [^] ...and yet their site insists on trying to launch MSXML 5.0 when viewed in IE7. The irony. A quote: "Obviously MS Windows is already proprietary and very restrictive, and well worth rejecting." Well, obviously. I cannot abide arguments along the line of "clearly X, therefor X is true". Fight for a just cause, don't make childish simplistic statements, don't assume that everyone hates having an OS and Office system in which everything's integrated and works and installs easily and works with your peripherals. I used to admire the FSF but more and more I just don't see how they are compatible with the Software Developer as a professional. Why should it be every person's right to have everything for free? Why should we all be encouraged to use code whose licensing terms say that the product we create must be given away for free? Are lawyers, doctors, mechanics, chefs, authors or musicians expected to do the same? Just because software is intangible and can be distributed freely with no effort doesn't mean there's a moral obligation to give it away. By all means promote free software but at least be sensible about it. Fight for things to be interoperable, fight to ensure there are options, fight to push quality and promote solutions that allow investment in innovation to promote competition and reduce costs. Not everything can be free, not everyone has a problem paying a couple of hundred bucks for a tool which forms the backbone of their job and which they use 8 hours a day 7 days a week, 50 weeks a year.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Funny ain't it oh well they are loonies over there. Here I upgraded the browser to FF 2.0 on a copy of Debian (which I run under Virtual PC) just to get the same browser I use under XP. Boy was I wrong the fonts are horrible under X (time to fiddle fiddle fiddle about) Then I downloaded an extension I like under XP with FF 2.0. Guess what half of the features under Linux were unavailable. It was like the code was written with conditionals that went like this If (OS == Windows) { TonsOfFunctionality(AllFeatures); } else { MessageBox.Show ("Sorry consider getting a copy of Windows"); LimitedFunctionalityAvailable(NoFeatures); } FSF a great idea gone astray...
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I'm glad they are promoting free software. I understand that everything cant be free but some things can, good things. I like to be able to view, edit, and redistribute the source code of a high quality program, especially a complete operating system. The restrictive nature of Trusted Computing scares me. At first it will be an extremely useful way to encrypt and secure data but over time it will restrict the kind of hardware and software you can install on to your computer. Computer manufacturers may restrict your from installing another operating system or even a newer version of the same operating system because they want you to buy a new computer with it pre installed. Just give it time and we will not even have free speech any more. You wont be able to type cuss words or anything the government doesn't see fit for its stupid slaves(which is us).
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Funny ain't it oh well they are loonies over there. Here I upgraded the browser to FF 2.0 on a copy of Debian (which I run under Virtual PC) just to get the same browser I use under XP. Boy was I wrong the fonts are horrible under X (time to fiddle fiddle fiddle about) Then I downloaded an extension I like under XP with FF 2.0. Guess what half of the features under Linux were unavailable. It was like the code was written with conditionals that went like this If (OS == Windows) { TonsOfFunctionality(AllFeatures); } else { MessageBox.Show ("Sorry consider getting a copy of Windows"); LimitedFunctionalityAvailable(NoFeatures); } FSF a great idea gone astray...
for all we pay for it, those guys should do better!
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Just dont tell him about linux ... dont want to many ppl to know. One of the best kept secrets you know ;):-D
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for all we pay for it, those guys should do better!
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Yeah but my point was that they didn't seem to be able to achieve parity under the Debian edition. That isn't their fault that is just what is lacking in the free OS compared to what is available under Windows. The addin is just Xul and Javascript so I guess there is just no parity even though Javascript is referencing Mozilla objects. Something strange in that one don't you think?
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Yeah but my point was that they didn't seem to be able to achieve parity under the Debian edition. That isn't their fault that is just what is lacking in the free OS compared to what is available under Windows. The addin is just Xul and Javascript so I guess there is just no parity even though Javascript is referencing Mozilla objects. Something strange in that one don't you think?
_alank wrote:
That isn't their fault that is just what is lacking in the free OS compared to what is available under Windows
or maybe the guy who wrote that bit was a Windows programmer, not a Linux programmer.
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I'm glad they are promoting free software. I understand that everything cant be free but some things can, good things. I like to be able to view, edit, and redistribute the source code of a high quality program, especially a complete operating system. The restrictive nature of Trusted Computing scares me. At first it will be an extremely useful way to encrypt and secure data but over time it will restrict the kind of hardware and software you can install on to your computer. Computer manufacturers may restrict your from installing another operating system or even a newer version of the same operating system because they want you to buy a new computer with it pre installed. Just give it time and we will not even have free speech any more. You wont be able to type cuss words or anything the government doesn't see fit for its stupid slaves(which is us).
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Just dont tell him about linux ... dont want to many ppl to know. One of the best kept secrets you know ;):-D
Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity
No one can understand the truth until he drinks of coffee's frothy goodness. ~Sheik Abd-al-Kadir
I can't always be wrong ... or can I?CaveFox wrote:
dont tell him about linux
Shhhhhhhhh :laugh:
If you try to write that in English, I might be able to understand more than a fraction of it. - Guffa
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BadVista.org: FSF launches campaign against Microsoft Vista [^] ...and yet their site insists on trying to launch MSXML 5.0 when viewed in IE7. The irony. A quote: "Obviously MS Windows is already proprietary and very restrictive, and well worth rejecting." Well, obviously. I cannot abide arguments along the line of "clearly X, therefor X is true". Fight for a just cause, don't make childish simplistic statements, don't assume that everyone hates having an OS and Office system in which everything's integrated and works and installs easily and works with your peripherals. I used to admire the FSF but more and more I just don't see how they are compatible with the Software Developer as a professional. Why should it be every person's right to have everything for free? Why should we all be encouraged to use code whose licensing terms say that the product we create must be given away for free? Are lawyers, doctors, mechanics, chefs, authors or musicians expected to do the same? Just because software is intangible and can be distributed freely with no effort doesn't mean there's a moral obligation to give it away. By all means promote free software but at least be sensible about it. Fight for things to be interoperable, fight to ensure there are options, fight to push quality and promote solutions that allow investment in innovation to promote competition and reduce costs. Not everything can be free, not everyone has a problem paying a couple of hundred bucks for a tool which forms the backbone of their job and which they use 8 hours a day 7 days a week, 50 weeks a year.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
Why should it be every person's right to have everything for free? ... doesn't mean there's a moral obligation to give it away.
Yeah, there's a growing sense of entitlement these days that I find disturbing. There is no dishonor in using your talents to make a living, and those who do have zero obligation to those unwilling to provide for themselves. If someone does offer you the fruits of their labor for free, it comes out of the kindness of their heart and should be greeted with sincere gratitude, not a sense of self righteous entitlement. If you want something, offer something of value in exchange. That's the way the planet has operated for billions of years. In fact, in the animal kingdom, there's a word that eloquently describes those who are too lazy to get up off their posteriors and fend for themselves: dinner.
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I'm glad they are promoting free software. I understand that everything cant be free but some things can, good things. I like to be able to view, edit, and redistribute the source code of a high quality program, especially a complete operating system. The restrictive nature of Trusted Computing scares me. At first it will be an extremely useful way to encrypt and secure data but over time it will restrict the kind of hardware and software you can install on to your computer. Computer manufacturers may restrict your from installing another operating system or even a newer version of the same operating system because they want you to buy a new computer with it pre installed. Just give it time and we will not even have free speech any more. You wont be able to type cuss words or anything the government doesn't see fit for its stupid slaves(which is us).
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Captain See SharpJust give it time and we will not even have free speech any more. You wont be able to type cuss words or anything the government doesn't see fit for its stupid slaves(which is us).
You live in the United States of America and enjoy freedoms that much of the human race, throughout history, has only dreamt of. That includes not only the freedom to complain, which is certainly available to you, but also the freedom to go out and work for change if you're unhappy with the current state of affairs. No one's forcing you to passively sit on your couch and take it.
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I have only one company I can get my home electricity from. Ditto for gas and cable TV. I've never understood how Microsoft could be accused of being a monopoly when all you have to do is walk across the street and buy a Mac if you don't like them. Oh, wait. Lawsuits. Money. Nevermind...
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Captain See SharpI understand that everything cant be free but some things can, good things.
Like broadband internet?:rolleyes:
:Gong: 歡迎光臨 吐 西批 :Gong:
VuNic wrote:
Like broadband internet?
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Chris Maunder wrote:
You ever used a Mac?
Blasphemy! :~
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I have only one company I can get my home electricity from. Ditto for gas and cable TV. I've never understood how Microsoft could be accused of being a monopoly when all you have to do is walk across the street and buy a Mac if you don't like them. Oh, wait. Lawsuits. Money. Nevermind...
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
I've never understood how Microsoft could be accused of being a monopoly when all you have to do is walk across the street and buy a Mac if you don't like them.
They were determined to be a monopoly mostly because of their market share for Intel-compatible PC operating systems. Apple was considered to be in a different market. Cheers, Drew.
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BadVista.org: FSF launches campaign against Microsoft Vista [^] ...and yet their site insists on trying to launch MSXML 5.0 when viewed in IE7. The irony. A quote: "Obviously MS Windows is already proprietary and very restrictive, and well worth rejecting." Well, obviously. I cannot abide arguments along the line of "clearly X, therefor X is true". Fight for a just cause, don't make childish simplistic statements, don't assume that everyone hates having an OS and Office system in which everything's integrated and works and installs easily and works with your peripherals. I used to admire the FSF but more and more I just don't see how they are compatible with the Software Developer as a professional. Why should it be every person's right to have everything for free? Why should we all be encouraged to use code whose licensing terms say that the product we create must be given away for free? Are lawyers, doctors, mechanics, chefs, authors or musicians expected to do the same? Just because software is intangible and can be distributed freely with no effort doesn't mean there's a moral obligation to give it away. By all means promote free software but at least be sensible about it. Fight for things to be interoperable, fight to ensure there are options, fight to push quality and promote solutions that allow investment in innovation to promote competition and reduce costs. Not everything can be free, not everyone has a problem paying a couple of hundred bucks for a tool which forms the backbone of their job and which they use 8 hours a day 7 days a week, 50 weeks a year.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
Not everything can be free, not everyone has a problem paying a couple of hundred bucks for a tool which forms the backbone of their job
Yes! If I pay for it when I have a free alternative, then I think it is worth it. Also just because someone gives something for free, that doesn't mean I need to take it up and use.
Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero ப்ரம்மா