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  • O oilFactotum

    Stan Shannon wrote:

    We have never endured a more strictly enforced moral imperative in this society

    Yeah, right:rolleyes:

    Stan Shannon wrote:

    When a father cannot chastise his own daughter

    No one is stopping him. In fact, you don't know that he doesn't chastise her in private. If he chooses to do so publicly, then he can chose to deal with the consequences, or be afraid of disapproval. I'm sure Cheney is quaking in his boots at the prospect.:rolleyes:

    Stan Shannon wrote:

    no doubt our society is in extreme trouble.

    No more scarlet letters, no more burning at the stake - what a sorry state of affairs.:rolleyes:

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    oilFactotum wrote:

    In fact, you don't know that he doesn't chastise her in private.

    Yes, as long as he keeps his unspeakably immoralities in the closet who are we to care? Now, thats what I call social progress!

    oilFactotum wrote:

    I'm sure Cheney is quaking in his boots at the prospect

    As am I.

    oilFactotum wrote:

    No more scarlet letters, no more burning at the stake - what a sorry state of affairs.

    Tell that to George Allen or Rush Limbaugh or me for that matter. All branded with the scarlet 'R'.

    A virtual fence for the virtual borders of a virtual nation.

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      oilFactotum wrote:

      In fact, you don't know that he doesn't chastise her in private.

      Yes, as long as he keeps his unspeakably immoralities in the closet who are we to care? Now, thats what I call social progress!

      oilFactotum wrote:

      I'm sure Cheney is quaking in his boots at the prospect

      As am I.

      oilFactotum wrote:

      No more scarlet letters, no more burning at the stake - what a sorry state of affairs.

      Tell that to George Allen or Rush Limbaugh or me for that matter. All branded with the scarlet 'R'.

      A virtual fence for the virtual borders of a virtual nation.

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      Red Stateler
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      Stan Shannon wrote:

      Tell that to George Allen or Rush Limbaugh or me for that matter. All branded with the scarlet 'R'.

      I was thinking the same thing, only "B" (for bigot). Possessing a moral view that contradicts the left-wing view of (im)morality is enough to guarantee a bevy of unwashed hippies screaming hateful obscenities at your...ummmmm...hatred.

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        oilFactotum wrote:

        In fact, you don't know that he doesn't chastise her in private.

        Yes, as long as he keeps his unspeakably immoralities in the closet who are we to care? Now, thats what I call social progress!

        oilFactotum wrote:

        I'm sure Cheney is quaking in his boots at the prospect

        As am I.

        oilFactotum wrote:

        No more scarlet letters, no more burning at the stake - what a sorry state of affairs.

        Tell that to George Allen or Rush Limbaugh or me for that matter. All branded with the scarlet 'R'.

        A virtual fence for the virtual borders of a virtual nation.

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        oilFactotum
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        Ah, yes. Intolerance is such a worthy social goal.

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        • O oilFactotum

          Ah, yes. Intolerance is such a worthy social goal.

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          Red Stateler
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          You don't seem to be very tolerant of Cheney's beliefs...

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            Stan Shannon wrote:

            Tell that to George Allen or Rush Limbaugh or me for that matter. All branded with the scarlet 'R'.

            I was thinking the same thing, only "B" (for bigot). Possessing a moral view that contradicts the left-wing view of (im)morality is enough to guarantee a bevy of unwashed hippies screaming hateful obscenities at your...ummmmm...hatred.

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            led mike
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            The depth of your analysis would not break through tissue paper

            "When your argument falls apart...resort to name-calling."
            Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

            Whereas "liberal" is just a moron.
            Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

            typical left-wing pseudo-intellectual crackpot
            Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

            Your logic is really really bad.
            Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

            I'm kind of incoherent today.
            Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

            led mike

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              The depth of your analysis would not break through tissue paper

              "When your argument falls apart...resort to name-calling."
              Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

              Whereas "liberal" is just a moron.
              Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

              typical left-wing pseudo-intellectual crackpot
              Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

              Your logic is really really bad.
              Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

              I'm kind of incoherent today.
              Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

              led mike

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              Red Stateler
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              Neither would a 747 when you stack it high enough.

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                oilFactotum wrote:

                'Conservative calls Mary Cheney's pregnancy "unconscionable." ' :laugh:

                Children out of wedlock are funny! teeheehee!!!

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                led mike
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                Maybe they will solve the problem by moving to the Middle East where there are no innocent people.

                "When your argument falls apart...resort to name-calling."
                Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                Whereas "liberal" is just a moron.
                Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                typical left-wing pseudo-intellectual crackpot
                Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                Your logic is really really bad.
                Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                I'm kind of incoherent today.
                Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                led mike

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                  oilFactotum wrote:

                  It's such a shame that he's not allowed to use his antiquated religious dogma to reject and condemn his own daughter

                  It is indeed. We have never endured a more strictly enforced moral imperative in this society. When a father cannot chastise his own daughter for a lifestyle that he undoubtedly disapproves of for fear of being publically attacked for having 'immoral' thoughts there is no doubt our society is in extreme trouble.

                  A virtual fence for the virtual borders of a virtual nation.

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                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                  for fear of being publically attacked for having 'immoral' thoughts

                  Why worry about immoral thoughts? Cheney is guilty of overt immoral actions by robbing the public coffers blind to reward his friends and eventually line his own pockets.

                  The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.

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                  • S Stan Shannon

                    oilFactotum wrote:

                    It's such a shame that he's not allowed to use his antiquated religious dogma to reject and condemn his own daughter

                    It is indeed. We have never endured a more strictly enforced moral imperative in this society. When a father cannot chastise his own daughter for a lifestyle that he undoubtedly disapproves of for fear of being publically attacked for having 'immoral' thoughts there is no doubt our society is in extreme trouble.

                    A virtual fence for the virtual borders of a virtual nation.

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                    led mike
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                    Yeah... "people", you can't live with them... you can't kill them. Life must really suck for you Stan. :rose:

                    "Christianity is not about tolerance"
                    Stan Shannon in the Soap Box

                    Thats because you're a f****ing leftist idiot.
                    Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                    And you worthless bastards are proud of that. You assholes just suck.
                    Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                    Being classy is for losers.
                    Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                    a coalition of hispanics, blacks, and white leftists.
                    Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                    Hispanic isn't a race
                    Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                    led mike

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                    • L led mike

                      Maybe they will solve the problem by moving to the Middle East where there are no innocent people.

                      "When your argument falls apart...resort to name-calling."
                      Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                      Whereas "liberal" is just a moron.
                      Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                      typical left-wing pseudo-intellectual crackpot
                      Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                      Your logic is really really bad.
                      Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                      I'm kind of incoherent today.
                      Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                      led mike

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                      Red Stateler
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                      Come on, now. There are a handful of non-Muslims out there.

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                      • S Stan Shannon

                        oilFactotum wrote:

                        In fact, you don't know that he doesn't chastise her in private.

                        Yes, as long as he keeps his unspeakably immoralities in the closet who are we to care? Now, thats what I call social progress!

                        oilFactotum wrote:

                        I'm sure Cheney is quaking in his boots at the prospect

                        As am I.

                        oilFactotum wrote:

                        No more scarlet letters, no more burning at the stake - what a sorry state of affairs.

                        Tell that to George Allen or Rush Limbaugh or me for that matter. All branded with the scarlet 'R'.

                        A virtual fence for the virtual borders of a virtual nation.

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                        oilFactotum
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                        you wrote: "Yes, as long as he keeps his unspeakably immoralities in the closet who are we to care? Now, thats what I call social progress!" You're the only one I've seen that describes Cheney as "unspeakably immoral" in regards to his relationship with his daughter. So you find it terrible that he would be criticized if he were to call his daughter a faggot in public? And you think that any criticism for this remark would be completely unwarrented? you said: "Tell that to George Allen or Rush Limbaugh or me for that matter. All branded with the scarlet 'R'." This cult of victimology that some of you consertives go on about is just pathetic!

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                          Yeah... "people", you can't live with them... you can't kill them. Life must really suck for you Stan. :rose:

                          "Christianity is not about tolerance"
                          Stan Shannon in the Soap Box

                          Thats because you're a f****ing leftist idiot.
                          Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                          And you worthless bastards are proud of that. You assholes just suck.
                          Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                          Being classy is for losers.
                          Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                          a coalition of hispanics, blacks, and white leftists.
                          Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                          Hispanic isn't a race
                          Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                          led mike

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                          Red Stateler
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                          led mike wrote:

                          you can't kill them

                          The left seems to disagree with you on this point...

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                            You don't seem to be very tolerant of Cheney's beliefs...

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                            oilFactotum
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                            He can do or say whatever he likes, I'm not stopping him.

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                            • R Red Stateler

                              led mike wrote:

                              you can't kill them

                              The left seems to disagree with you on this point...

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                              leckey 0
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                              Yeah, because right-wingers don't support the death penalty or anything like that.

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                              • O oilFactotum

                                He can do or say whatever he likes, I'm not stopping him.

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                                Red Stateler
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                                Just criticizing his position as intolerant which, frankly, is the very definition of intolerance.

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                                • R Red Stateler

                                  oilFactotum wrote:

                                  A victory? I wouldn't call it a victory, but I do find humor in the irony of the 2nd in command of an administration that condemns gays and their relationships having such a public gay daughter having a baby in a committed relationship.

                                  Irony denotes the unexpected. There is nothing unexpected about the current generation's disregard for morality. Rather, it is symbolic of our society's decline.

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                                  Red Stateler wrote:

                                  There is nothing unexpected about the current generation's disregard for morality. Rather, it is symbolic of our society's decline.

                                  What is fascinating is that if you go back and read historical literature, the right has claimed that society is in the midst of unprecedented moral decline for about as long as they've existed.

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                                    Just criticizing his position as intolerant which, frankly, is the very definition of intolerance.

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                                    oilFactotum
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                                    Wow, that is so relativistic. You really must be one of those "leftists" you always go on about. :laugh::laugh:

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                                      Yeah, because right-wingers don't support the death penalty or anything like that.

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                                      The right generally supports the death penalty for those who deprive others of life as the preferred method of justice for taking life (while the left opposes "punishment" for taking life and endorses "rehabilitation"). The left unwaiveringly supports the death of innocent babies. The end.

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                                      • O oilFactotum

                                        Wow, that is so relativistic. You really must be one of those "leftists" you always go on about. :laugh::laugh:

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                                        oilFactotum wrote:

                                        Wow, that is so relativistic. You really must be one of those "leftists" you always go on about.

                                        I know you won't get it, because you've demonstrated a complete lack of mental capacity to do so, but I'm a glutton for pain... My statement did not endorse the hypocritical and ill-thought-out position on "tolerance" held by the left. Rather, I was pointing out the fact that its an inherently hypocritical position which you have adopted without actually thinking it through. It also wasn't "relativistic" as it didn't assume that our respective positions on "tolerance" were both correct. Rather, it just pointed out the fact that your position is hypocritical.

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                                        • O oilFactotum

                                          you wrote: "Yes, as long as he keeps his unspeakably immoralities in the closet who are we to care? Now, thats what I call social progress!" You're the only one I've seen that describes Cheney as "unspeakably immoral" in regards to his relationship with his daughter. So you find it terrible that he would be criticized if he were to call his daughter a faggot in public? And you think that any criticism for this remark would be completely unwarrented? you said: "Tell that to George Allen or Rush Limbaugh or me for that matter. All branded with the scarlet 'R'." This cult of victimology that some of you consertives go on about is just pathetic!

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                                          oilFactotum wrote:

                                          victimology

                                          The study of victims? :confused: Don't you mean "victimization"?

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