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  • S Stan Shannon

    oilFactotum wrote:

    In fact, you don't know that he doesn't chastise her in private.

    Yes, as long as he keeps his unspeakably immoralities in the closet who are we to care? Now, thats what I call social progress!

    oilFactotum wrote:

    I'm sure Cheney is quaking in his boots at the prospect

    As am I.

    oilFactotum wrote:

    No more scarlet letters, no more burning at the stake - what a sorry state of affairs.

    Tell that to George Allen or Rush Limbaugh or me for that matter. All branded with the scarlet 'R'.

    A virtual fence for the virtual borders of a virtual nation.

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    oilFactotum
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    Ah, yes. Intolerance is such a worthy social goal.

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      Ah, yes. Intolerance is such a worthy social goal.

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      Red Stateler
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      You don't seem to be very tolerant of Cheney's beliefs...

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      • R Red Stateler

        Stan Shannon wrote:

        Tell that to George Allen or Rush Limbaugh or me for that matter. All branded with the scarlet 'R'.

        I was thinking the same thing, only "B" (for bigot). Possessing a moral view that contradicts the left-wing view of (im)morality is enough to guarantee a bevy of unwashed hippies screaming hateful obscenities at your...ummmmm...hatred.

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        led mike
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        The depth of your analysis would not break through tissue paper

        "When your argument falls apart...resort to name-calling."
        Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

        Whereas "liberal" is just a moron.
        Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

        typical left-wing pseudo-intellectual crackpot
        Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

        Your logic is really really bad.
        Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

        I'm kind of incoherent today.
        Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

        led mike

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          The depth of your analysis would not break through tissue paper

          "When your argument falls apart...resort to name-calling."
          Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

          Whereas "liberal" is just a moron.
          Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

          typical left-wing pseudo-intellectual crackpot
          Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

          Your logic is really really bad.
          Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

          I'm kind of incoherent today.
          Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

          led mike

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          Red Stateler
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          Neither would a 747 when you stack it high enough.

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            oilFactotum wrote:

            'Conservative calls Mary Cheney's pregnancy "unconscionable." ' :laugh:

            Children out of wedlock are funny! teeheehee!!!

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            led mike
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            Maybe they will solve the problem by moving to the Middle East where there are no innocent people.

            "When your argument falls apart...resort to name-calling."
            Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

            Whereas "liberal" is just a moron.
            Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

            typical left-wing pseudo-intellectual crackpot
            Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

            Your logic is really really bad.
            Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

            I'm kind of incoherent today.
            Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

            led mike

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            • S Stan Shannon

              oilFactotum wrote:

              It's such a shame that he's not allowed to use his antiquated religious dogma to reject and condemn his own daughter

              It is indeed. We have never endured a more strictly enforced moral imperative in this society. When a father cannot chastise his own daughter for a lifestyle that he undoubtedly disapproves of for fear of being publically attacked for having 'immoral' thoughts there is no doubt our society is in extreme trouble.

              A virtual fence for the virtual borders of a virtual nation.

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              Tim Craig
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              Stan Shannon wrote:

              for fear of being publically attacked for having 'immoral' thoughts

              Why worry about immoral thoughts? Cheney is guilty of overt immoral actions by robbing the public coffers blind to reward his friends and eventually line his own pockets.

              The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.

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              • S Stan Shannon

                oilFactotum wrote:

                It's such a shame that he's not allowed to use his antiquated religious dogma to reject and condemn his own daughter

                It is indeed. We have never endured a more strictly enforced moral imperative in this society. When a father cannot chastise his own daughter for a lifestyle that he undoubtedly disapproves of for fear of being publically attacked for having 'immoral' thoughts there is no doubt our society is in extreme trouble.

                A virtual fence for the virtual borders of a virtual nation.

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                led mike
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                Yeah... "people", you can't live with them... you can't kill them. Life must really suck for you Stan. :rose:

                "Christianity is not about tolerance"
                Stan Shannon in the Soap Box

                Thats because you're a f****ing leftist idiot.
                Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                And you worthless bastards are proud of that. You assholes just suck.
                Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                Being classy is for losers.
                Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                a coalition of hispanics, blacks, and white leftists.
                Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                Hispanic isn't a race
                Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                led mike

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                • L led mike

                  Maybe they will solve the problem by moving to the Middle East where there are no innocent people.

                  "When your argument falls apart...resort to name-calling."
                  Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                  Whereas "liberal" is just a moron.
                  Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                  typical left-wing pseudo-intellectual crackpot
                  Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                  Your logic is really really bad.
                  Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                  I'm kind of incoherent today.
                  Red Stateler aka (D)espeir in the Soapbox

                  led mike

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                  Red Stateler
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                  Come on, now. There are a handful of non-Muslims out there.

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                  • L led mike

                    Yeah... "people", you can't live with them... you can't kill them. Life must really suck for you Stan. :rose:

                    "Christianity is not about tolerance"
                    Stan Shannon in the Soap Box

                    Thats because you're a f****ing leftist idiot.
                    Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                    And you worthless bastards are proud of that. You assholes just suck.
                    Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                    Being classy is for losers.
                    Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                    a coalition of hispanics, blacks, and white leftists.
                    Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                    Hispanic isn't a race
                    Stan Shannon in the Soapbox

                    led mike

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                    Red Stateler
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                    led mike wrote:

                    you can't kill them

                    The left seems to disagree with you on this point...

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                    • S Stan Shannon

                      oilFactotum wrote:

                      In fact, you don't know that he doesn't chastise her in private.

                      Yes, as long as he keeps his unspeakably immoralities in the closet who are we to care? Now, thats what I call social progress!

                      oilFactotum wrote:

                      I'm sure Cheney is quaking in his boots at the prospect

                      As am I.

                      oilFactotum wrote:

                      No more scarlet letters, no more burning at the stake - what a sorry state of affairs.

                      Tell that to George Allen or Rush Limbaugh or me for that matter. All branded with the scarlet 'R'.

                      A virtual fence for the virtual borders of a virtual nation.

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                      oilFactotum
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                      you wrote: "Yes, as long as he keeps his unspeakably immoralities in the closet who are we to care? Now, thats what I call social progress!" You're the only one I've seen that describes Cheney as "unspeakably immoral" in regards to his relationship with his daughter. So you find it terrible that he would be criticized if he were to call his daughter a faggot in public? And you think that any criticism for this remark would be completely unwarrented? you said: "Tell that to George Allen or Rush Limbaugh or me for that matter. All branded with the scarlet 'R'." This cult of victimology that some of you consertives go on about is just pathetic!

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                      • R Red Stateler

                        You don't seem to be very tolerant of Cheney's beliefs...

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                        oilFactotum
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                        He can do or say whatever he likes, I'm not stopping him.

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                        • R Red Stateler

                          led mike wrote:

                          you can't kill them

                          The left seems to disagree with you on this point...

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                          leckey 0
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                          Yeah, because right-wingers don't support the death penalty or anything like that.

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                          • O oilFactotum

                            He can do or say whatever he likes, I'm not stopping him.

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                            Red Stateler
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                            Just criticizing his position as intolerant which, frankly, is the very definition of intolerance.

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                              Just criticizing his position as intolerant which, frankly, is the very definition of intolerance.

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                              oilFactotum
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                              Wow, that is so relativistic. You really must be one of those "leftists" you always go on about. :laugh::laugh:

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                              • R Red Stateler

                                oilFactotum wrote:

                                A victory? I wouldn't call it a victory, but I do find humor in the irony of the 2nd in command of an administration that condemns gays and their relationships having such a public gay daughter having a baby in a committed relationship.

                                Irony denotes the unexpected. There is nothing unexpected about the current generation's disregard for morality. Rather, it is symbolic of our society's decline.

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                                Christian Graus
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                                Red Stateler wrote:

                                There is nothing unexpected about the current generation's disregard for morality. Rather, it is symbolic of our society's decline.

                                What is fascinating is that if you go back and read historical literature, the right has claimed that society is in the midst of unprecedented moral decline for about as long as they've existed.

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                                  Yeah, because right-wingers don't support the death penalty or anything like that.

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                                  Red Stateler
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                                  The right generally supports the death penalty for those who deprive others of life as the preferred method of justice for taking life (while the left opposes "punishment" for taking life and endorses "rehabilitation"). The left unwaiveringly supports the death of innocent babies. The end.

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                                    Wow, that is so relativistic. You really must be one of those "leftists" you always go on about. :laugh::laugh:

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                                    Red Stateler
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                                    oilFactotum wrote:

                                    Wow, that is so relativistic. You really must be one of those "leftists" you always go on about.

                                    I know you won't get it, because you've demonstrated a complete lack of mental capacity to do so, but I'm a glutton for pain... My statement did not endorse the hypocritical and ill-thought-out position on "tolerance" held by the left. Rather, I was pointing out the fact that its an inherently hypocritical position which you have adopted without actually thinking it through. It also wasn't "relativistic" as it didn't assume that our respective positions on "tolerance" were both correct. Rather, it just pointed out the fact that your position is hypocritical.

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                                      you wrote: "Yes, as long as he keeps his unspeakably immoralities in the closet who are we to care? Now, thats what I call social progress!" You're the only one I've seen that describes Cheney as "unspeakably immoral" in regards to his relationship with his daughter. So you find it terrible that he would be criticized if he were to call his daughter a faggot in public? And you think that any criticism for this remark would be completely unwarrented? you said: "Tell that to George Allen or Rush Limbaugh or me for that matter. All branded with the scarlet 'R'." This cult of victimology that some of you consertives go on about is just pathetic!

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                                      Red Stateler
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                                      oilFactotum wrote:

                                      victimology

                                      The study of victims? :confused: Don't you mean "victimization"?

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                                      • C Christian Graus

                                        Red Stateler wrote:

                                        There is nothing unexpected about the current generation's disregard for morality. Rather, it is symbolic of our society's decline.

                                        What is fascinating is that if you go back and read historical literature, the right has claimed that society is in the midst of unprecedented moral decline for about as long as they've existed.

                                        Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog

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                                        Red Stateler
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                                        Christian Graus wrote:

                                        What is fascinating is that if you go back and read historical literature, the right has claimed that society is in the midst of unprecedented moral decline for about as long as they've existed.

                                        The "right" hasn't existed throughout history. Rather, I think you're referring to moral authorities (like various churches) pointing out moral failings, which have existed throughout history. What we have on our hands is relatively (but not completely) historically unique. It's not about actual individual moral failings (as that's expected and will endure through any civilization), but rather the movement to accept moral failings as virtue...To redefine wrong to be right...To prevent those moral authorities from asserting immorality.

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                                        • S Stan Shannon

                                          oilFactotum wrote:

                                          In fact, you don't know that he doesn't chastise her in private.

                                          Yes, as long as he keeps his unspeakably immoralities in the closet who are we to care? Now, thats what I call social progress!

                                          oilFactotum wrote:

                                          I'm sure Cheney is quaking in his boots at the prospect

                                          As am I.

                                          oilFactotum wrote:

                                          No more scarlet letters, no more burning at the stake - what a sorry state of affairs.

                                          Tell that to George Allen or Rush Limbaugh or me for that matter. All branded with the scarlet 'R'.

                                          A virtual fence for the virtual borders of a virtual nation.

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                                          Zac Howland
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                                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                                          Tell that to George Allen

                                          You aren't from VA by chance, are you Stan? It was a shame he lost the election ... Webb is an arrogant prick ... :(

                                          If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week Zac

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