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  • P Paul Selormey

    PaulC1972 wrote:

    Same here.

    Not sure I can handle that. I have never handled $0.5M yet. Let me see my list of how I could possibly spend it

    1. At least two nice church buildings here in Japan.
    2. Two buildings for myself (add family, please!)
    3. Wife
    4. Cars, Cars, Cars, Cars....H3, Latest Benz, Latest BMW (for my wife)...too old for sport cars!
    5. Multimedia room with super-graphics/powerful notebooks/workstations running XP/Vista/MacOX
    6. A first-class seat to Holland - never used first-class!
    7. Now, how much did I spend so far?

    With love, Paul.

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    Paul Selormey wrote:

    Not sure I can handle that.

    I'd just pay off the house, cars, student loans, and a few other bills. Sock the rest of the money away for my kids when they go to college. --- modified Oh, and toss a good chunk of change to Chris so Code Project can run smoothly for a long time :-D


    If you try to write that in English, I might be able to understand more than a fraction of it. - Guffa

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    • P Paul Conrad

      Not sure where you live, but $8.25/hr is not going to make the grade in California :rolleyes:


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      Stan Shannon
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      PaulC1972 wrote:

      but $8.25/hr is not going to make the grade in California

      For who? Most 'minimum wage' jobs are taken by teenagers living at home with their parents. They don't need a 'living wage'. It simply forces employers to pay more for labor than the labor itself is worth to them. Hence, they will increase the cost of whatever it is they produce, or they will hire fewer people.

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      • P Paul Selormey

        PaulC1972 wrote:

        Same here.

        Not sure I can handle that. I have never handled $0.5M yet. Let me see my list of how I could possibly spend it

        1. At least two nice church buildings here in Japan.
        2. Two buildings for myself (add family, please!)
        3. Wife
        4. Cars, Cars, Cars, Cars....H3, Latest Benz, Latest BMW (for my wife)...too old for sport cars!
        5. Multimedia room with super-graphics/powerful notebooks/workstations running XP/Vista/MacOX
        6. A first-class seat to Holland - never used first-class!
        7. Now, how much did I spend so far?

        With love, Paul.

        Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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        Stan Shannon
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        Paul Selormey wrote:

        too old for sport cars

        Or not old enough!

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          PaulC1972 wrote:

          but $8.25/hr is not going to make the grade in California

          For who? Most 'minimum wage' jobs are taken by teenagers living at home with their parents. They don't need a 'living wage'. It simply forces employers to pay more for labor than the labor itself is worth to them. Hence, they will increase the cost of whatever it is they produce, or they will hire fewer people.

          A virtual fence for the virtual borders of a virtual nation.

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          Paul Conrad
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          Stan Shannon wrote:

          Most 'minimum wage' jobs are taken by teenagers living at home with their parents.

          Not necessarily true. When I worked at Target about 13 years ago, when beginning college, the majority of people working there were 30-40-50 year olds holding down several minimum wage jobs just to make ends meet.


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          • P Paul Conrad

            Paul Selormey wrote:

            Not sure I can handle that.

            I'd just pay off the house, cars, student loans, and a few other bills. Sock the rest of the money away for my kids when they go to college. --- modified Oh, and toss a good chunk of change to Chris so Code Project can run smoothly for a long time :-D


            If you try to write that in English, I might be able to understand more than a fraction of it. - Guffa

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            Paul Selormey
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            Ah! I see. I do not like loans. I currently use a second-hand honda civic car I bought with cash. I wish to drive the latest Nissan Skyline, though :(( Anyway, it is good you have great plans for your kids. God bless you. With love, Paul.

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            • P Paul Selormey

              Ah! I see. I do not like loans. I currently use a second-hand honda civic car I bought with cash. I wish to drive the latest Nissan Skyline, though :(( Anyway, it is good you have great plans for your kids. God bless you. With love, Paul.

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              Paul Conrad
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              Paul Selormey wrote:

              Anyway, it is good you have great plans for your kids. God bless you.

              Thanks. I'd hate to see my kids run up a big student loan bill like myself.


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              • S Stan Shannon

                Paul Selormey wrote:

                too old for sport cars

                Or not old enough!

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                Paul Selormey
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                :laugh::laugh::laugh: OK, let me wait a little bit. May be something will change! With love, Paul.

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                • S Stan Shannon

                  Paul Selormey wrote:

                  too old for sport cars

                  Or not old enough!

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                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                  Paul Selormey wrote: too old for sport cars Or not old enough!

                  One is never too old for a sport car.


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                  • P Paul Selormey

                    Stan Shannon wrote:

                    Lets hope not. That money will ultimately help far more poor people left in the private sector than it would if given to the government.

                    How will less tax help "poor people left in the private sector"? With love, Paul.

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                    Paul Selormey wrote:

                    How will less tax help "poor people left in the private sector"?

                    Ummm... 1) the money (not the poor people) is left in the private sector ;P 2) Seriously, in one form or another money left in the private sector is always used to re-invest in business. More supplies, equipment and services are needed for the reinvestment and jobs are created. Poor people become self sufficient and their standard of living rises. 3) Money collected in taxes is watered down as it travels through government red-tape and corruption. Any money given to the poor is deemed charity and creates or sustains dependency.

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                    • S Stan Shannon

                      Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                      That's assuming that he puts a substantial part of his money back into the local economy

                      No, thats assuming that he doesn't eat it or use it as fuel for his stove, or hide it under his mattress. The probability of him investing it in a productive, profitable way greatly exceeds that of some government agency doing the same thing with it. If that means investments in Mexico than thats what it means. His investimetns generate more wealth both for himself (which he reinvests) and for the people who find work as a consequence of those investments.

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                      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                      Still, if he doesn't invest his money in the US, he'll be less effective than the government with regards to stimulating the local economy. I don't see how any new jobs are created (or maintained) by moving the money out of the local (or national) economy. At least not where the money is earned. If used wisely, then capitalism is a very good way of maintaining and boosting the economy. If used badly, it's as devastating as communism.

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                      • P Paul Conrad

                        Stan Shannon wrote:

                        Paul Selormey wrote: too old for sport cars Or not old enough!

                        One is never too old for a sport car.


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                        Paul Selormey
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                        PaulC1972 wrote:

                        One is never too old for a sport car.

                        May be just too shy for sport cars. I do not know why, I just cannot see myself wanting one. :-D With love, Paul.

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                        • P Paul Conrad

                          Stan Shannon wrote:

                          Most 'minimum wage' jobs are taken by teenagers living at home with their parents.

                          Not necessarily true. When I worked at Target about 13 years ago, when beginning college, the majority of people working there were 30-40-50 year olds holding down several minimum wage jobs just to make ends meet.


                          If you try to write that in English, I might be able to understand more than a fraction of it. - Guffa

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                          Zac Howland
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                          PaulC1972 wrote:

                          Not necessarily true. When I worked at Target about 13 years ago, when beginning college, the majority of people working there were 30-40-50 year olds holding down several minimum wage jobs just to make ends meet.

                          Not to sound cold, but it isn't the government's job to be the safety net for people who either can't, or refuse to pay their dues when they are younger (e.g. get an education or obtain basic skills to help them get and keep a steady job). I use to work at Food Lion as a CSM (first couple years of college). I had a few people that worked for me that were doing it as a career (most of the employees were either teenagers/college students or people with full time jobs doing it for extra cash). The ones using it as a career were those that dropped out of school, partied through their 20's, and wondered why they weren't making any money in their 30's. The minimum wage was never designed to give the entire population a baseline off of which they could live (and it will never accomplish that either -- basic economics will tell you that). It was designed to keep companies from exploiting workers by paying them pennies a day and charging a fortune for the products they produce. In many ways, it is both antiquated and unneccessary in today's society.

                          If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week Zac

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                            Paul Selormey wrote:

                            How will less tax help "poor people left in the private sector"?

                            Ummm... 1) the money (not the poor people) is left in the private sector ;P 2) Seriously, in one form or another money left in the private sector is always used to re-invest in business. More supplies, equipment and services are needed for the reinvestment and jobs are created. Poor people become self sufficient and their standard of living rises. 3) Money collected in taxes is watered down as it travels through government red-tape and corruption. Any money given to the poor is deemed charity and creates or sustains dependency.

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                            Paul Selormey
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                            Clear thoughts, I like it. With love, Paul.

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                            • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                              Some people are just too rich.[^] Me want.


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                              Marc Clifton
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                              Obviously they are making way too much money managing our money. Marc

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                                Obviously they are making way too much money managing our money. Marc

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                                There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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                                Paul Selormey
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                                Marc Clifton wrote:

                                Obviously they are making way too much money managing our money.

                                Yours is negotiated at the interview ;P With love, Paul.

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                                • P Paul Selormey

                                  Stan Shannon wrote:

                                  Lets hope not. That money will ultimately help far more poor people left in the private sector than it would if given to the government.

                                  How will less tax help "poor people left in the private sector"? With love, Paul.

                                  Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                                  Think about it - i got something close to a $750 bonus this year. Naturally, that means Mr. Blankfein worked about seven hundred twelve thousand times harder than i did. And, i did nothing for poor people in the private sector, apart from cooking a few meals here and there. Assuming this country is chock full of people just as lazy as i am (or perhaps even lazier :omg: ), it should be a no-brainer that the very few industrious personages like Mr. Blankfien should be encouraged to continue being productive!  :)

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                                    Because it provides for a more efficient economy. More productivity, more jobs, more opportunity. Now, if we could just get rid of minimum wage and social welfare programs poverty could be eliminated entirely.

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                                    Christian Graus
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                                    So, if some people are paid less than it costs to live, this will eliminate poverty ? You should run for president.

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                                      Think about it - i got something close to a $750 bonus this year. Naturally, that means Mr. Blankfein worked about seven hundred twelve thousand times harder than i did. And, i did nothing for poor people in the private sector, apart from cooking a few meals here and there. Assuming this country is chock full of people just as lazy as i am (or perhaps even lazier :omg: ), it should be a no-brainer that the very few industrious personages like Mr. Blankfien should be encouraged to continue being productive!  :)

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                                      Paul Selormey
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                                      Hmmm, somebody wants more...;P With love, Paul.

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                                        Still, if he doesn't invest his money in the US, he'll be less effective than the government with regards to stimulating the local economy. I don't see how any new jobs are created (or maintained) by moving the money out of the local (or national) economy. At least not where the money is earned. If used wisely, then capitalism is a very good way of maintaining and boosting the economy. If used badly, it's as devastating as communism.

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                                        Stan Shannon
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                                        I've never seen any community devastated by capitalism. (Beyond environmental damage which, certainly, the businesses in question should be fiscally accountable for). To require or expect someone to invest in the local economy when there is little probability of seeing a profit on that investment is certainly not using capital wisely. The main reason so many Mexicans are coming here to find work is directly because this is where most of the investments are being made. I wish more rich people would invest in Mexico so more of those pathetic assholes would stay home. Mexico is not investment friendly.

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                                        • C Christian Graus

                                          So, if some people are paid less than it costs to live, this will eliminate poverty ? You should run for president.

                                          Christian Graus - C++ MVP 'Why don't we jump on a fad that hasn't already been widely discredited ?' - Dilbert

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                                          Stan Shannon
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                                          Christian Graus wrote:

                                          if some people are paid less than it costs to live, this will eliminate poverty ?

                                          No. But allowing people to figure out for themselves what it costs to live certainly will.

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