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I think they make Atheists swear on the Origin of Species. :~
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-- Steven WrightI think an honest atheist would swear by his name. But I guess that doesn't count for the morally deficient people who need the constant threat from above to stay in check.
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I think an honest atheist would swear by his name. But I guess that doesn't count for the morally deficient people who need the constant threat from above to stay in check.
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Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
I think an honest atheist would swear by his name
So then an atheist holds himself in a higher regard than any other thing?
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Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
I think an honest atheist would swear by his name
So then an atheist holds himself in a higher regard than any other thing?
Well, certainly higher than any irrational belief.
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Well, certainly higher than any irrational belief.
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And you actually think that holding yourself in higher regard to any known thing isn't...irrational? Egomaniacal, maybe.
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And you actually think that holding yourself in higher regard to any known thing isn't...irrational? Egomaniacal, maybe.
Having fun fighting straw men? Get lost. I don't have time for your silly and quite frankly boring games.
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I think an honest atheist would swear by his name. But I guess that doesn't count for the morally deficient people who need the constant threat from above to stay in check.
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Atheist could also pinky promise...
I win because I have the most fun in life...
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Having fun fighting straw men? Get lost. I don't have time for your silly and quite frankly boring games.
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Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
Having fun fighting straw men?
Ah yes...The ol' feigned fallacy to escape an argument. I asked a simple question. The point of taking an oath in the name of God is to do so with full confidence that (assuming you're faithful) you will carry out that oath as it's done in the witness of that thing held in the highest regard by God-fearing people. You claim that if an atheist were to swear an oath, he would do so to himself, thereby implying that he holds himself in higher regard than any other thing. Do you?
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Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
Having fun fighting straw men?
Ah yes...The ol' feigned fallacy to escape an argument. I asked a simple question. The point of taking an oath in the name of God is to do so with full confidence that (assuming you're faithful) you will carry out that oath as it's done in the witness of that thing held in the highest regard by God-fearing people. You claim that if an atheist were to swear an oath, he would do so to himself, thereby implying that he holds himself in higher regard than any other thing. Do you?
It's all Smoke and Mirrors. An honorable person will tell the truth regardless of what peice of paper they swear on, a dirtbag will tell lies regardless of what they swear on. The only thing thta might keep them in check is the threat of perjury charges.
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It's all Smoke and Mirrors. An honorable person will tell the truth regardless of what peice of paper they swear on, a dirtbag will tell lies regardless of what they swear on. The only thing thta might keep them in check is the threat of perjury charges.
-- Rules of thumb should not be taken for the whole hand.
That's definately true. An oath is largely symbolic and completely dependent on the character of the person making it. But the purpose of swearing to God is to do so in witness of the thing you hold in higher regard than any other thing. So what would an atheist swear to? Himself (thereby holding himself in high regard)? Society (or the state)? "Reason" (or whatever frequently faulty interpretation of it)? What exactly does an atheist hold in higher regard than himself, if anything?
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not nearly as bad as a Hispanic midget woman...
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That's definately true. An oath is largely symbolic and completely dependent on the character of the person making it. But the purpose of swearing to God is to do so in witness of the thing you hold in higher regard than any other thing. So what would an atheist swear to? Himself (thereby holding himself in high regard)? Society (or the state)? "Reason" (or whatever frequently faulty interpretation of it)? What exactly does an atheist hold in higher regard than himself, if anything?
Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
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VonHagNDaz wrote:
not nearly as bad as a Hispanic midget woman...
Well we already have a Giant Jackass in the whitehouse so a Hispanic midget women would be an improvment in the evolutionary sense.
led mike
what if they were Jewish as well, thats a bunch of minorities rolled into one...
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That's definately true. An oath is largely symbolic and completely dependent on the character of the person making it. But the purpose of swearing to God is to do so in witness of the thing you hold in higher regard than any other thing. So what would an atheist swear to? Himself (thereby holding himself in high regard)? Society (or the state)? "Reason" (or whatever frequently faulty interpretation of it)? What exactly does an atheist hold in higher regard than himself, if anything?
Red Stateler wrote:
What exactly does an atheist hold in higher regard than himself
Principles like honor and integrity, if he has them, just like a Religious person. When they don't have them then you get nothing but bullshit regardless of their so called religious affiliation.
led mike
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You know, it could've been worse. It could've been an atheist! :rolleyes:
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Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
It could've been an atheist!
I don't believe that. :laugh:
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] I agree with you that my argument is useless. [Red Stateler] Hey, I am part of a special bread, we are called smart people [Captain See Sharp] The zen of the soapbox is hard to attain...[Jörgen Sigvardsson] I wish I could remember what it was like to only have a short term memory.[David Kentley]
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Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
It could've been an atheist!
I don't believe that. :laugh:
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] I agree with you that my argument is useless. [Red Stateler] Hey, I am part of a special bread, we are called smart people [Captain See Sharp] The zen of the soapbox is hard to attain...[Jörgen Sigvardsson] I wish I could remember what it was like to only have a short term memory.[David Kentley]
Now there's a rational belief! ;)
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Red Stateler wrote:
What exactly does an atheist hold in higher regard than himself
Principles like honor and integrity, if he has them, just like a Religious person. When they don't have them then you get nothing but bullshit regardless of their so called religious affiliation.
led mike
Honor and integrity aren't "principles". They are a dedication principles. But the question I posed is "What do atheists hold in the highest regard"?
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Rob Graham wrote:
but *ghasp* women...
Not much longer, if the Quaran people start to take over ! :-) Marius
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Not much longer if the christians start to take over either. Women will be home squirting babies like slurm queens. (Women's emancipation was never mentioned in the bible, so how can it be anything other than the devil in the works?)
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Yeah, but, uuh.. that happened so long ago. That doesn't count! And besides, they own casinos, roads and even hard rock cafe nowadays! Let's not forget that they were heathen either. They had it coming, and they deserved it! :~
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Atheist could also pinky promise...
I win because I have the most fun in life...
VonHagNDaz wrote:
pinky promise
Eh?
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